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Title: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Tonyukuk on November 04, 2011, 11:23:17 am
hi all

Guys, nowadays too many strategus battle started.When ı joined the battle,I saw very few bows and arrows :S :  most of clans still dont comprehend the importance of the archers..when ı check the inventory,ı always see 10-20 bows :S Commanders say us 'pick the bows on the ground'WHen ı try to find the bows on the ground,I always die! its too bad for tickets..

İf you can buy a good bows for archers,we can pick them gladly :)

And the other thing;we are not diarrhea!
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Arcona on November 04, 2011, 11:52:42 am
I have the opposite visual...

Builds that are based on cavarly or heavy armor etc suffer because we get crappy armor, no horses and the 2handers/polearms given suck...

On the other hand even the light xbow or simple bow is DEADLY in the hands of an archer with high skills...

If you add the fact that low armor means we die with 1-2 arrows its like a shooting gallery out there.

So I am unsure if archers dont get any love in the battles you joined but my experience was very very different!
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Tonyukuk on November 04, 2011, 12:38:01 pm

On the other hand even the light xbow or simple bow is DEADLY in the hands of an archer with high skills...

+1

but if you havent got any bow in the battle,you cant shoot them :) especially some clans buy a kind of bow and it's deficient.I died 7-8 on average in battle..Most of death coz of try to find bow:S..

İt is not mime problem.Whem some clans call me,ı will go for battle glady but this situation is problem for all archers :S
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Penitent on November 04, 2011, 03:21:04 pm
You guys are complaining about your equipment?  Try playing a shielder?  No one buys 1h weapons worth a damn, and all the shields break in 1 or 2 hits!!!! :)
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Segd on November 04, 2011, 03:27:39 pm
You guys are complaining about your equipment?  Try playing a shielder?  No one buys 1h weapons worth a damn, and all the shields break in 1 or 2 hits!!!! :)
this. DRZ has one of best kdr versus villages only because of archers. MW strongs & arbalests for ranged & arena shields for shielders  :lol:

If you want to rape villagers you should look at http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,18924.0.html
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Kunio on November 04, 2011, 05:49:22 pm
+1 for tonyukuk
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Plaksteris on November 04, 2011, 07:54:39 pm
Well half dead are from ranged in strategus, precision of them in strat battles are fucking sooo big! And those my old friendchers are EVERYWHERE! So NO!
Just incrase your survival skill or pick a different class or do nothing. Everything is good right now!
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Tonyukuk on November 04, 2011, 09:25:05 pm
Well half dead are from ranged in strategus, precision of them in strat battles are fucking sooo big! And those friendly archers are EVERYWHERE! So NO!
Just incrase your survival skill or pick a different class or do nothing. Everything is good right now!

This isnt about archers damage or number of archers..This is about number of bow ;)
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Zaharist on November 04, 2011, 10:29:09 pm
funny thread
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Skysong on November 05, 2011, 09:26:34 am
I have the opposite visual...

Builds that are based on cavarly or heavy armor etc suffer because we get crappy armor, no horses and the 2handers/polearms given suck...

On the other hand even the light xbow or simple bow is DEADLY in the hands of an archer with high skills...

If you add the fact that low armor means we die with 1-2 arrows its like a shooting gallery out there.

So I am unsure if archers dont get any love in the battles you joined but my experience was very very different!

Thats so true. Archers dominate strategus battles atm. Hopefuly it will be better balanced when ppl can afford masses of heavy armors, shields and better melee weapons.
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Tonyukuk on November 05, 2011, 11:17:38 am
I think, archers are dominating village battles.When city or castle war begin,archers will diffirent from villages coz we will have to wear heavy shity ninja armour and accurete will be less than from villages battle.you can dont agree with me but its important thng for us..
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: mandible/splinteryourjaw on November 05, 2011, 02:31:21 pm
Thats so true. Archers dominate strategus battles atm. Hopefuly it will be better balanced when ppl can afford masses of heavy armors, shields and better melee weapons.


Can you provide screenshots at battles end to prove this statement...I don't think archers are "dominating", but I agree they are making things hard (especially with those of us that have bad ping and lag at respawn...I was headshot several times before I could even move in the grey battles.)
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Skysong on November 05, 2011, 03:23:25 pm

Can you provide screenshots at battles end to prove this statement...I don't think archers are "dominating", but I agree they are making things hard (especially with those of us that have bad ping and lag at respawn...I was headshot several times before I could even move in the grey battles.)

Why you need proof?  You ever fought in a Strategus battle?
In all Strategus battles i joined tickets gone half even before some serious melee confrontation for villages. And for 1/3 tickets for others.
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Tonyukuk on November 05, 2011, 03:33:20 pm
Proof:

This guys always dominated the battles..if any archers want to upload picture,they can upload this topic..


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Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: BaleOhay on November 05, 2011, 03:45:43 pm
archers right now just like in the end of last strat are the kings of the battle field.
It is mainly due to the facts, low armor, crap shields, and no cav. without cav to mow down the tunnel vision archers they find a place of safety in the back of the formation and plink away and get great scores. typically only dying to other archers.

typicial scores from a couple of battles
sWalker_marksman_Unicorns   25:4
Ranger_Egad_TKoV   18:5
Kesh_Unicorns   17:5
Governor_Unicorns   14:5

sWalker_marksman_Unicorns   20:6      
SeQueL_BRD   18:4
Kesh_Unicorns   14:6
Ranger_Egad_TKoV   12:2
Fallen_Loki   11:0

crossbowman in comparrison. BaleOhay_BRD   7:3  only people I died to were archers.

Granted the archers listed are very good players but the same quality melee player scores are generally not even close.


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Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: mandible/splinteryourjaw on November 05, 2011, 04:14:12 pm
I don't know who the archers are, but if you listed all of the archers then I count 7 archers in the top 22, none in the top 3, and 4 in the to 10.  I also wouldn't call a score of 23/19 dominating...now Nebun and Hetman: that may be called dominating.

What about the village side??? 

DRZ, BRD, and Grey have elite archers and a large number of them.  They have even forced me to hide a few times : )  Its not a matter of being OP (I can get hit by 4 arrows sometimes and still live, though bolts hurt), its a matter of numbers. Especially with Grey who has a lot of archers.  My worst scores below were due to being spawnkilled or when the sides were like 50 attackers:20 defenders.  My one NA battle was my worst and I think swalker went 12:19 in that one...so let's look at everything, not just snapshots of success.

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Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Skysong on November 05, 2011, 04:27:34 pm
archers right now just like in the end of last strat are the kings of the battle field.
It is mainly due to the facts, low armor, crap shields, and no cav. without cav to mow down the tunnel vision archers they find a place of safety in the back of the formation and plink away and get great scores. typically only dying to other archers.

Yes thats how it is.
I don't know who the archers are, but if you listed all of the archers then I count 7 archers in the top 22, none in the top 3, and 4 in the to 10.  I also wouldn't call a score of 23/19 dominating...now Nebun and Hetman: that may be called dominating.

What about the village side??? 

DRZ, BRD, and Grey have elite archers and a large number of them.  They have even forced me to hide a few times : )  Its not a matter of being OP (I can get hit by 4 arrows sometimes and still live, though bolts hurt), its a matter of numbers. Especially with Grey who has a lot of archers.  My worst scores below were due to being spawnkilled or when the sides were like 50 attackers:20 defenders.  My one NA battle was my worst and I think swalker went 12:19 in that one...so let's look at everything, not just snapshots of success.

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Yes you did and your K:D is good enough. But still is it that : you are hiding when others dying and you fight when it suits you get kill?
I mean how many of these battles lost as others slaughtered by arrows although you have good K:D?
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Tonyukuk on November 05, 2011, 04:48:52 pm
I don't know who the archers are, but if you listed all of the archers then I count 7 archers in the top 22, none in the top 3, and 4 in the to 10.  I also wouldn't call a score of 23/19 dominating...now Nebun and Hetman: that may be called dominating.

This is only example..İf you joined all battle,you could see this ppl always play positive.maybe nebun or hetman upload some picture..

one things..you will respect to Tonyukuk.  8-)

Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: mandible/splinteryourjaw on November 05, 2011, 06:13:57 pm
OK maybe you misunderstand...I am an archer,
when I say hide I don't literally mean hide as you interpret it...I have never concealed myself from the battle so
no I don't hide,
yes if 50 arrows are heading my way I will step behind a building or run around it to fight from another point rather than hold my ground (thats what I meant by hide, I never hide and wait; looking for an easy kill.) 
no I don't go for the kill or kill steal I try to wound as many as possible before they engage my teammates or I keep other archers engaged with me, 
yes if you watch I am constantly battleing and I often run out of arrows; in which case I have to charge the enemy lines to scavenge their stuff,
yes my ping is usually 150-200, yes that does make a difference for an archer because many times you are shooting at a ghost/shadow,
yes I do run from melee as I carry no weapon, but I don't hide
no archers are not OP...some are just good (Nebun)
yes as an archer I draw more attention from both archers and melee players looking for the easy kill
yes everybody will whine about their class being underpowered
yes I don't believe archers are OP, their power evolves from the sheer number of them working together...imagine only one archer on the battlefield; even the best would have a hard time competing

and sorry this post is not about me so I will respectfully step back out, but before I go so that there is no misunderstanding..................

I DON'T CONCEAL (hide) MYSELF FROM THE FIGHT TO PAD MY K/D RATIO
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Skysong on November 05, 2011, 06:38:24 pm
I did not say Archers are OP i said that they dominate strategus battles cause clans\no clan commanders don't have proper gear for their army to counter archers at the moment. I don't know why you think otherwise. It's clear missile have much advantage at this stage where armies have crap armor and shields.
And no i don't whine at all or i don't say my char is underpowered.  I just stated the fact and added that it will be balanced in the future when armies have better armor.
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Count_Curtis on November 07, 2011, 05:21:21 pm
Yarr, tis true. archers are deadly important, especially in the common low-geared fight, they can really turn things around
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: HarunYahya on November 09, 2011, 07:00:30 am
hi all

Guys, nowadays too many strategus battle started.When ı joined the battle,I saw very few bows and arrows :S :  most of clans still dont comprehend the importance of the archers..when ı check the inventory,ı always see 10-20 bows :S Commanders say us 'pick the bows on the ground'WHen ı try to find the bows on the ground,I always die! its too bad for tickets..

İf you can buy a good bows for archers,we can pick them gladly :)

And the other thing;we are not diarrhea!
Ok
Now...
This is what people usually buy for polearms
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This is what people usually buy for 2 handers
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This is what people usually buy for 1handers
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This is their shield most of the times
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This is what most of the times people buy for archers
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If the army is poor they buy this instead:
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If they have some spare coins they buy
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You are a clever person do the math and realize why you HAVE TO bend down and get your bow from your own or your friend's corpse.
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Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on November 09, 2011, 08:18:36 am
Dudes, I loled. Everything is crap because everyone is poor as shit. Its bassicalyl

HOBO BATTLES OF THE 14 CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give it some time yo!
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Erasmas on November 09, 2011, 09:21:09 am
Koyama hit the bullseye.

Bows are expensive, my friend, that is exactly why there is little of them - as of now. You would die if you had to listen our archers whining about amounts and quality of bows...

Money makes the world go around
...the world go around
...the world go around.
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round.


 
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Segd on November 09, 2011, 10:20:11 am
Falchion & Nordic Shield? Nah, 1handers deserve only club & arena shield. Nomad Bow sucks, MW horns are our superior weapon against capitalistic scums!
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: HarunYahya on November 09, 2011, 04:19:15 pm
Falchion & Nordic Shield? Nah, 1handers deserve only club & arena shield. Nomad Bow sucks, MW horns are our superior weapon against capitalistic scums!
YAY COMRADES !
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Tonyukuk on November 10, 2011, 06:20:33 pm
I said : when ı get good bows and arrows,ı can pick it gladyly.

KOyama nerenle okudun
Title: Re: Archers dont have to pick the bows on the battlefield
Post by: Jarlek on November 10, 2011, 07:08:06 pm
I said : when ı get good bows and arrows,ı can pick it gladyly.

KOyama nerenle okudun
Tatar bows and above is good bows. Pick 'em up.