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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Tot. on October 28, 2011, 01:46:49 am
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It's useless. Look at its stats. Inferior in every way compared to Sword of War, it's slower, shorter and less dmg. Just tiny bit cheaper.
Needs rebalancing. We could use a sword thats mid-way between medium sized two handers like Two Handed sword and full-sized like SoW that is actually usable.
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Knock 1k off the price.
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great sword, heavy great & sword of war could all be merged into same weapon...they're redundant
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great sword, heavy great & sword of war could all be merged into same weapon...they're redundant
Great sword has the pierce and Sword of war has the cut that part seems fair but heavy great sword seems to have nothing except cost on the sword of war.
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Great sword has the pierce and Sword of war has the cut that part seems fair but heavy great sword seems to have nothing except cost on the sword of war.
Yup. I think both the great sword and sword of war are excellent alternatives to the danish and german in that they trade a point in damage and reach for a point of speed. Heavy great sword on the other hand has no benefits other than being a little bit less expensive... it's inferior in all other ways with the sword of war for example: 1 less reach, 1 less speed, 1 less pierce, 1 less cut... for 1170 gold less. Yeah that price tag isn't going to make me think twice about which sword I'd be picking.
Heavy great sword sucks, it would be nice it it's stats were more oriented towards being 'all rounder'. Give it +2 pierce damage (bringing it to 24 pierce) and I think it would be more viable (would have less cut than the SoW but 1 more pierce, would have 2 more cut than the great sword but 1 less pierce, etc).
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Actually just reduce price.
Make it around 9500 and then its in the gap between ths and the rest.
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Reduce the price.
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that sword is sad one...
every fuck%& 2h weapon have some reason to exist but that is like... yea that sword is so sad
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Reducing the price doesnt fix it, it still wont be used.
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that sword need some love
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Completely useless. But take a look at Dadao, another sword which needs some love. In comparison with Miaodao and especially War Cleaver, two most similar swords, it's just a crap (well, maybe not exactly a crap :rolleyes:). Miaodao is 3 points faster, Dadao has 2 more damage, but ppl value more speed than damage so when you look at the marketplace you see 8 offers with Miaodao and not even one with Dadao. And on the other hand War Cleaver, longer than Dadao, heavier, equally fast, with more damage, in a nutshell better in every single way. Of course at its current price (~5k) Dadao can not has better stats. So increase price and buff stats so that this beautiful sword will become more common on the battlefield.
PS Yeah, I know, wrong topic :cry:
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dadaos fine, I used it frequently, very good value for money imo. Heavy great sword on the other hand, too expensive for what it does.
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Dadao. And on the other hand War Cleaver, longer than Dadao, heavier, equally fast, with more damage, in a nutshell better in every single way.
Warcleaver
weapon length: 120
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 92
weapon length: 120
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
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great sword, heavy great & sword of war could all be merged into same weapon...they're redundant
It's good to add redundant weapons, it increases diversity on the battlefield.
Personally, I think we should have 2 or more weapon models and names for each set of stats. For example, have the Great Sword with its stats, and have like a "Spanish Great Sword" or something with the same stats but a different model. That would be cool to have a bunch of these.
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So everyone would have to load into memory extra models and textures, so cRPG is even more demanding than it is now? :wink:
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So everyone would have to load into memory extra models and textures, so cRPG is even more demanding than it is now? :wink:
I was thinking about that after i posted...wish there was someway around that...
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Warcleaver
weapon length: 120
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 92
weapon length: 120
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
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When i looked at this weapon, i just lol'd. Just look at this:
Heavy Great Sword - 39 swing Great Sword - 37 swing
Heavy Great Sword - 22 thrust Great Sword - 26 thrust
Heavy Great Sword - 92 speed Great Sword - 93 speed
Heavy Great Sword - 14 difficulty Great Sword - 13 difficulty
Heavy Great Sword - 11701 cost Great Sword - cost 12363
HGS just screams: Balance me! Why? U have everything above.
I think best balance could be reducing cost to around 10k(+-500 gold)and increasing both thrust and swing by 3 points.
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Just give it +2 cut and make it 1000 gold cheaper and it should be fine.
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Cyranule was rocking the heavy great sword before he left to play star wars. My guess is that it is heavier then the sow, so you can can weapon stun more. That would fit cyranules play style by making castor swings slightly easier.
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great guess but sow weighs 3.0 while the heavy great swords only weighs 2.7
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Reducing the price doesnt fix it, it still wont be used.
If it was 9500 gold like suggested above, I would use it.
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You could make the weight alot higher , that wayy it will become an interesting weapon to use actualy.