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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Iymore on October 23, 2011, 08:23:11 pm

Title: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Iymore on October 23, 2011, 08:23:11 pm

Arabian Cavalry Sword
weapon length: 105
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 19 pierce
swing damage: 33 cut
slots: 1

Heavy Bastard Sword
weapon length: 105
weight: 2
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
slots: 2
Secondary Mode

Bastard Sword
weapon length: 101
weight: 1.8
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 99
weapon length: 101
thrust damage: 21 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 2
Secondary Mode

Longsword
weapon length: 106
weight: 1.8
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 106
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
slots: 2
Secondary Mode

Katana
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 37 cut
slots: 2

All have almost same lenght but why the other 2 slots? it's not realistic...

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 23, 2011, 08:26:55 pm

And the katana.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Iymore on October 23, 2011, 08:27:26 pm

i forget it... i will add.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 23, 2011, 08:27:31 pm

As much as i would've like this, it also means bringing back 2h archers

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Casimir on October 23, 2011, 08:31:23 pm

every single archer and xbowmen would use these weapons.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Iymore on October 23, 2011, 08:31:58 pm

but game need to be more realistic...

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Laufknoten on October 23, 2011, 08:34:24 pm

No, they're too powerful for only 1-slot.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Iymore on October 23, 2011, 08:35:32 pm

then make it just bastard sword. forget others, but bastard sword should be.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on October 23, 2011, 09:08:31 pm

devs said no cuz katana is for 2 handers not for archers

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Braeden on October 23, 2011, 09:18:06 pm

I think the more relevant comparison would be to the

Langes Messer
weight: 1.8
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 92
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 33 cut
slots: 1
Secondary Mode (2h)

You'll note in exchange for being 1 slot and having 2h mode, it is actually a good bit shorter than the bastard/longsword, and slower / little bit shorter than the katana.  I honestly think the slots are fairly balanced currently.  Though the fact that the Langes is the #1 sidearm of choice probably means it should be balanced in comparison to other sidearms.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Rumblood on October 23, 2011, 09:26:35 pm

No.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on October 23, 2011, 10:45:10 pm

You are talking only about the length :/  Length is not all you know?  :rolleyes:   :lol:

The other swords are all 2h and have higher damage and higher speed.
That is why they are 2slot ;)

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Greziz on October 24, 2011, 04:52:40 am

As a side note the langes performs at 100 speed in 2hand mode btw or maybe 101 I forget the exact speed been a while since I used it also most archers do use 2handers still aka the mace. I think the swords that can be used 1handed with shields like longswords should be 1slotters as well.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Diomedes on October 24, 2011, 06:30:56 am

These weapons do not need a buff.  Asking for a 2 slot weapon to become a 1 slot weapon is a asking for a buff.

So no.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: PieParadox on October 24, 2011, 07:02:49 am

I was going to write out a long winded argument but then realized how dumb this suggestion really is.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Vibe on October 24, 2011, 08:11:23 am

This exactly was why the slot system was implemented...

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: Okkam on October 24, 2011, 04:11:07 pm

Quote from: Vibe on October 24, 2011, 08:11:23 am

This exactly was why the slot system was implemented...

Nah, system was implemented because there are too much whiner-warriors, which was constantly killed in melee by archers with 0-50 wpf in secondary weapon.
TBH I do not remember Chase or Phyrex or other non forum warriors about BIG, UGLY ans DEADLY archers\crossbowmans with 2h weapons.

But others just do this River of Noob Tears as a gift for developers.
Now they whine about BIG and AWFUL mace for example.

Title: Re: Bastard, Heavy Bastard, Katana and Longsword should be 1 slot
Post by: MrShovelFace on October 24, 2011, 04:59:04 pm

no - do not make these already powerful weapons even better

gameplay is based off realism but only to a certain point
this is that point