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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Nebun on October 20, 2011, 09:51:12 pm

Title: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Nebun on October 20, 2011, 09:51:12 pm
Druzhina_Oscar who attacked village is a village owner now.
But he can't change owner of the village to someone else. The drop down where clan member names should be - is empty. (Tested in every browser)

Also other members with Rank 10 can't change ownership of the village, there is no such option for them at all. But it use to be in last strat.
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Jarlek on October 20, 2011, 09:59:54 pm
Didn't chadz or someone say that they wanted fief ownership to be more consistent? Like, you shouldn't be able to change it easily or take it away from people?

At least we should be able to hand it out once to anyone and for the fief owner to give it to anyone he wants.
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Erasmas on October 20, 2011, 10:00:27 pm
A prelude to feudal system, or bug?

Would not be surprised if the first one.... chadz indeed mentioned some time ago that he did not realize that it was so easy to fief change ownership.
 
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Lennu on October 20, 2011, 10:01:41 pm
Maybe the new owned has to be inside the fief or sumtin? In a way that would make sense-
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Nebun on October 20, 2011, 10:27:25 pm
OK if others can't change it, but owner is inside the fief, and list of ppl he should be able to transfer village too is empty, and when he press change button giving error message on site, meaning its a bug.
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Dehitay on October 20, 2011, 11:23:16 pm
Last version of Strategus, some clan consistently exploited the night time system by changing fief owners every time the current fief owner's night time ended. This seems like it may be the end result of the dev's solution to that problem. I'm sure this is going to be inconvenient, but it's the asshats the exploited the system last go around that ruined the convenience.

But who knows, maybe the dev team has something other solution like being able to change it once every 10 days or something and since it just recently changed, you would have to wait 10 days to transfer ownership. However, that's just some possibility that popped into my head. Pure speculation
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Nebun on October 20, 2011, 11:48:21 pm
OMG Who would do such a horrible thing like exploiting this system :)

if fief owner can change ownership every 2 days then problem should be solved
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Zaharist on October 21, 2011, 03:19:30 pm
Dehitay are you sure about night time system exploit? Changing fief owner for this reason doesn't make any sense, cause it doesn't give any andvantages to "exploiter".
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Flawless on October 21, 2011, 04:22:37 pm
Lolz
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Keshian on October 21, 2011, 05:04:56 pm
Can we get some developer feedback on the process of transferring ownership??  And also about the bug with not getting loot form battles or keeping your equipment??
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: PhantomZero on October 21, 2011, 07:04:37 pm
And also about the bug with not getting loot form battles or keeping your equipment??

Yeah this one is kind of important.
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Dehitay on October 21, 2011, 10:19:17 pm
Dehitay are you sure about night time system exploit? Changing fief owner for this reason doesn't make any sense, cause it doesn't give any andvantages to "exploiter".
Last round of strategus it was possible to have 3 different people make a fief have no attack slot by using a cyclic night time system. Let's say Guy 1 starts with fief ownership and has a night time from 12:00 midnight to 8:00 am. At 8:00am, he could hand it off to Guy 2 who had a night time from 8:00am to 4:00pm. At 4:00pm, it would go to Guy 3 who had night time from 4:00pm to 12:00 midnight. Then at midnight Guy 3 would hand it back over to Guy 1. Of course this requires exact timing, so it was more likely done with 4 people
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Nebun on October 21, 2011, 10:37:38 pm
There was no such thing as no attack slot. Because if for example its set as night time for this moment and you attack, your attack would still work but it will move time of attack to after the current night time.

Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Keshian on October 21, 2011, 11:07:51 pm
There was no such thing as no attack slot. Because if for example its set as night time for this moment and you attack, your attack would still work but it will move time of attack to after the current night time.

But it would give 8 extra hours for a total of 13 hours for the defenders to reinforce compared to 2 for the attackers so you would have a rolling window heavily in your favor.  Either way, it got heavily abused by some clans and needed fixing.  Simple solution - make ownership changes like capital changes, you have to wait a week to do it, though 2-3 days should be fine too.
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Nebun on October 22, 2011, 12:07:30 am
I agree about this Keshian.
I just couldn't agree with: no attack slot.

Even if you allow changing it onece every 2 days, and only by the owner of the village. Or one time every week by faction leader. There should not be any problems with Night Time exploit.
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Dehitay on October 22, 2011, 05:16:37 am
You could just have the new fief owner attack the village if nobody gives you an alternative. However, if you do this too often, the admins might get pissed off and dole out punishment
Title: Re: Mit Nun: Village management problems.
Post by: Nebun on October 22, 2011, 05:31:07 pm
we thought of that as of solution but we'll only use it if really need to...
but best if its fixed