some say its "tactic" but its bullshit
No ladders, siege shield, construction materials,ecc don't seem to have an upkeep.
You're prolonging the round by not lowering your shield and get shot by the archer.
But as far as the last man standing is concerned - show a text warning when one team has been reduced to a last member.
The player can choose to fight or to suicide, but if he delays for more than one minute by whatever means (horse, running, turtling, hiding) for a few pointless extra kills (i.e. doesn't win) he gets xp and gold penalty.
who stay downstairs get killed first so only archers stay alive
Roof camping in unreachable places or unreasonably hard to reach places is already kickable.
I was referring to your complaint about archers running away from you. Big deal, play a faster character.
And making roofs unreachable would be boring, would just lead to Team A runs toward Team B every round, no interesting flanking possibilities.
No.
Prolonging is a valid tactic. Perhaps to trick enemy into being careless and killing them individually while they're spread over the map.
Either way, there is Master of the Field. Unless the person is on the roof no one can get to, or is obviously leeching, last man should do whatever he wants.
I'm saying this because I've seen various situations where this has been abused "oh you're last man, suicide" even though that last man can kill more people. For example, I was once vote kicked off the server because as a last man I refused to climb the steep slow ladder to a roof which was camped by some enemy players who refused to go down even though they had numerical advantage.
These melee, including yourself, refuse to take any ranged weapon right now because it slows you down, costs wpf/points and costs upkeep. Not being able to participate in ranged combat is thus the price you pay, just as an archer who takes no melee weapon. If you take light crossbow without wpf you have a good chance of killing some of the people on these roofs, and if not, there's always Master of the Field. I've urged my team to wait for MotF many times and it won us battles easily, even when there were 3x more enemies left than us. It's a tactic.
No.
Prolonging is a valid tactic. Perhaps to trick enemy into being careless and killing them individually while they're spread over the map.
Either way, there is Master of the Field. Unless the person is on the roof no one can get to, or is obviously leeching, last man should do whatever he wants.
I'm saying this because I've seen various situations where this has been abused "oh you're last man, suicide" even though that last man can kill more people. For example, I was once vote kicked off the server because as a last man I refused to climb the steep slow ladder to a roof which was camped by some enemy players who refused to go down even though they had numerical advantage.
These melee, including yourself, refuse to take any ranged weapon right now because it slows you down, costs wpf/points and costs upkeep. Not being able to participate in ranged combat is thus the price you pay, just as an archer who takes no melee weapon. If you take light crossbow without wpf you have a good chance of killing some of the people on these roofs, and if not, there's always Master of the Field. I've urged my team to wait for MotF many times and it won us battles easily, even when there were 3x more enemies left than us. It's a tactic.
so only archers stay alive and shoot each other until the last man goes down. The team with more accurate archers wins in less then 2 minutes.you wanna play a ranged game go play CoD
you wanna play a ranged game go play CoD
if we'd remove every good feature from the game just because some people are retarded and aren't using them correctly. how the game would look in the end? like some wow crazy shit, no thx...
If you like to play chasing games i advice you to take your friends (presuming you have any) to some park and try it out there. Its much more healthier and fun then virtual running around after people you don't even know.
I've bolded out the key parts for you. Try reading it with understanding before you post such things again.
Define good features.
i never wrote that archers shouldn't shoot at me.
Second: i never said archers should abandon their "advantages" (if you consider glitching, roof camping and retarded-looking ladders-in-the-air-stacking as their advantages feel free but some of us still believe this can be corrected), i said they should stop running like shitheads and trying to avoid the inevitable.
I stayed among the last people alive more then anyone around here and i never ran.
If ganking is inevitable just go with it. Prolonging the round and making 100 people spectate
Third: i replied to Khorin and Beauchamp, i didnt ask for your opinion. I believe they are intelligent enough to answer on themselves
Fourth: leaving your group on skype without saying a word is a dickhead move, no matter the reasons. If you cant get along with someone you say it out loud, you dont just leave without a single word of explanation. If we cant find an agreement on something (and no, there wasnt any argument) we go split ways.
- remove ladders from battle servers
Why ? Cause battles look retarded these days, a bunch of roof-hugging monkeys climbing their beloved rooftops and then destroying the ladders so infantry that would otherwise flank them and pick their brains out (what little of it they have) simply cant reach them, also often the same shitheads stand on the air-ladders (against all gravity and physics rules) and shoot people from there, i mean seriously what the hell ?
- make all roofs unreachable (so you cant even jump on them without the ladders)
Why ? Same shit as paragraph one, too many incompetent morons getting easy kills (on the infantry fighting below) from hardly reachable places, prolonging the rounds, making "battles" look retarded, etc.....
- remove unbalanced maps and rework the spawn points on mostly all of 'em
Too many of 'em, castles, villages on hills that you shouldn't be able to walk on without some alpinistic equipment, some where one team is spawned out in the open so they serve as practice dummies for the archers inside the village, etc
- make running away and making someone run after you for a couple of minutes across the whole map a banable offence, i mean i really dont mind archers sacrifying their melee weapon for additional stack of arrows but dont fucking run away when we come to kill you, if its your turn to die then stand still and die like a man....taking advantage of your high athletics and making us run around like retards makes no sense whatsoever, if you wanna play like that then youre in the wrong place....some say its "tactic" but its bullshit, its prolonging the round same as youre the last man standing, one competent man can kill dozen of such my old friends but not if they keep running away....you waste our time that we could use to kill your teammates....backpedaling and taking cover to reload your xbow is one thing but running away like a spineless piece of shit without even trying to fight in melee is just.....crap.
well maybe if the ladders on battle were indestructible that might help this situation
First: I'm not biased
roof-hugging monkeys...... brains out (what little of it they have)........incompetent morons..........less bundle of stickss.........my old friends.............like a spineless piece of shit
Cavalry also needs some tweaking. As of right now they cant attack anyone who is paying attention(except maybe peasants). This leads to them galloping away from any potential fight trying to fing someone who is afk or has their back turned. I think horses need higher health and armour and need to be cheaper.
Cavalry also needs some tweaking. As of right now they cant attack anyone who is paying attention(except maybe peasants). This leads to them galloping away from any potential fight trying to fing someone who is afk or has their back turned. I think horses need higher health and armour and need to be cheaper.
Lol I like how you call them stupid for using a tactic that makes it very difficult for you to kill them. I think they would be stupid to not climb on the roofs and let the infantry flank them. In my opinion big infantry clusterfucks with archers standing 5 feet behind shooting through the gaps looks more retarded than having archers on rooftops.
If they are the ones getting easy kills and you are the one going the hard way about getting kills then surely it is you who is the incompetent one? After all the point of the game is to kill the enemy team as fast and as efficiently as possible so using tactics that results in "easy kills" is surely the smart thing to do. Yet you call them morons again.
I agree with this I prefer fighting out in the open. I wish one of the servers would start running random generated field maps again.
First of all I agree that if someone is running away and there is no chance of their team winning then they should be kicked/banned, or even if they are just wasting time fighting pointless odds (you know like if some dickhead Xbow-sniper is hiding Behind trees/buildings/edge of map trying to fight 1vs10 every round wasting everyones time).
However if its lets say 10 vs 8 and you as an archer find yourself being chased by 5 from the enemy team, then it makes sense to lead them on a tour of the map as it allows your team of 8 guys to overwhelm and slaughter the other 5. You can then just lead the 5 guys chasing you to the rest of your team.
If a group of players choose to chase one guy who it is impossible for them to catch while the rest of their team is fighting , then it is they who are the retards as you say gnjus "making us run around like retards". So the answer to this is don't play like a retard and don't chase people you cannot catch.
(as said however If there is only like 2 guys versus 15 and one is running away then they should be kicked/banned.)
Anyway I think Gnjus post can be summed up as - QQ Admins please make the archers let me slaughter them, they keep doing things to make it hard for me to slaughter them like using the advantages of the map terrain or their build designs to make it hard. Its almost like they don't want me to kill them! they are such morons :(
Finished reading the rest of the thread.
This is a good idea but maybe instead make it so ladders can be knocked down (both by "f" key and with weapons but also be put back up again like the permanent map ladders) If they were indestructible it would lead to making glitch barricades in siege.
lol - Yeah I cannot see either how Tai Feng thought you were biased, I mean its not like you hate them and take any opportunity to insult these players.
i agree with some stuff but i do not agree with your attitude that everything that you can not get an easy kill from should be removed...
make ladders cost upkeep when you spawn with them.
make em rather expensive so people use them wisely.
if you as the turtle guy still rage about archers just throw away your shield and die when you get tired of chasing an archer.
if he does it when he is the last one alive it's against the rules in case you have the same speed and there is no gain from running.
if it makes sense due to him being faster than you and he can get shots at you it's perfectly fine to do so.
just because you chose to play a melee does not mean everyone else should be forced to be within your axe range :mrgreen:
now feel free to rage on :P
I wasnt refering to five people chasing one archer, i was talking about one guy who must run after another. 1 on 1, not 5 on 1. I run after you, you flee....i turn my back on you, you stop and shoot at me. I turn around and run after you again and you start fleeing. 100 people or so are spectating, most (or all) of your teammates are dead or in the process of dying. Capishi ?
So according to you i should just turn my back to a fleeing scumcher and let him shoot me ? So should the rest of the ganking squad ? Very clever, just as i expected from a dedicated archer.
Next thing youll propose that i buy a crossbow or some throwing shit. And then you will votekick me for reloading it behind some obstacle.
Dickhead. Equip a melee weapon, stop running away and learn to play.
are you really that retarded or its just a role-play ?
I just love it how you people twist things around here. Many of you should learn to read with understanding but its not up to me to educate you.
But please calm down,
I think you take this game far too serious.
(I wonder why you've never insulted me because of my lack of skill :P)
Define good features. And don't forget: i'm talking about battle servers only, since i never play siege. Maybe i should of said it in the beginning but i think its common knowledge.its difficult i have no definition. but for me if it brings more possibilities or strategies than its usually a good feature. this includes ladders in battle mode (of course except for that situation when sbdy climbs high roof, destroys ladders going up and than doesn't go down when he's the last one on a map). but this doesn't happen really often, usually the last guys jumps down in the end.
On the contrary, my friend. I'm as calm as one can be.
But these things that i mentioned here should really be addressed as soon as possible, its not about my personal preference, its about the general image of these battles, which atm is more then ridiculous. Actually you could describe these "events" with several other terms that would be closer to the truth, rather then calling 'em battles. :wink:
You have more skill then you think, furthermore you have the guts and the spine that many lack. I always see you in the front lines even tho maybe you should be staying behind some shields. 8-)