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Title: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Banok on October 14, 2011, 07:13:45 am
Why should you have to chase down and kill every single enemy when they are just hiding/camping or constantly running away or horse archers. Think about it game would be so much better I'd probably enjoy playing again.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 14, 2011, 11:27:35 am
Its a good idea, maybe if it kicked in at say 1min. That way there would be a risk in engaging straight away, but also just sitting around is going to do you no good as well. Then when it comes down to it, the cav is going to have to charge in and hold the flags while the inf and skirmish push up to take it. Might make it much more strategic and roll orientated.

+ over 9000
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Horns_Archive on October 14, 2011, 03:02:25 pm
I believe this is called capture the flag and chasing down people is what is challenging and this shoulda gone is suggestions thing AHHHHH you forum realgood
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on October 14, 2011, 04:04:09 pm
I +1 THIS NOTION!
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Thovex on October 14, 2011, 04:13:51 pm
Sounds like King of the Hill to me.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Guzzy on October 14, 2011, 04:21:08 pm
Pretty much what Thovex said... and this sure isn't ctf, because in that mode you have to capture enemy's flag, in this mod you have to capture the one standing flag, so master of the field or king of the hill...
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Adamar on October 14, 2011, 04:48:12 pm
So the side with the largest inf block wins? Explain!
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Keshian on October 14, 2011, 04:49:35 pm
So basically two-way siege on an unwalled map??
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Penitent on October 14, 2011, 05:24:35 pm
This sounds awesome...need an objective.  This would be very fun.  Make the MOTF flag spawn at different places per round.

Make a poll!
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: robert_namo on October 15, 2011, 12:40:21 am
How about flags appear every round at 2 Mins left, no matter how many people left or 1 min without kill.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Leesin on October 15, 2011, 01:14:13 am
How about we just keep it the way it is and just voteban anyone who hides and delays for a draw like we usually do.

Plus 1 minute isn't enough time to get to the flag AND capture it if you aren't already really close by unless you're a cav.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Kabookie on October 15, 2011, 04:57:49 am
Interesting idea!
Some maps I would just rather wait for flags...
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Vodner on October 15, 2011, 07:58:33 am
I like this idea, but I would like to see it happen at the 1:30 or 2:00 minute mark. 1:00 on some of the larger maps is barely enough time for infantry to even get to the flags.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Banok on October 15, 2011, 09:17:10 am
So the side with the largest inf block wins? Explain!

not at all. range will still camp outside the area on rooftops etcs and killing the people in the area or trying to get there, but it would give infantry a sort of goal other than trying to chase down every last clown. plus you can still win the game by simply killing everyone else, you just cant win by delaying/camping/xpbarn.

Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Zekerage on October 15, 2011, 12:06:17 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen... Could I please direct your attention to This (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,8845.0.html\) particular post. Notice the first post date -_-... GET ON IT DEVS/Server Admins!
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Zekerage on October 21, 2011, 01:37:06 am
and now THIS thread dies... Damnit! I want this implemented!
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Remy on October 21, 2011, 01:40:00 am
It would be nice for battle to have some objective other than simply killing. (Or another mode, such as the old Search and Destroy of Warband.)

Then there would be a reason and need to move instead of now where it is either:
a) charge
b) camp
c) both teams camp and wait for master of the field
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Zisa on October 21, 2011, 02:58:18 am
and now THIS thread dies... Damnit! I want this implemented!
I want this shitcanned.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Zekerage on October 21, 2011, 03:57:36 am
Damnit Zisa..... This is why we can't have Nice things.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: isatis on October 21, 2011, 04:03:21 am
I think my 13 shield skill alt will fit perfectly in this new battle!
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on October 21, 2011, 04:52:57 am
I think my 13 shield skill alt will fit perfectly in this new battle!

Mine too +1 damn it make it happen.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Zisa on October 21, 2011, 06:25:41 am
Damnit Zisa..... This is why we can't have Nice things.
I like nice things. This is a turd.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Zekerage on October 21, 2011, 08:40:22 am
What's wrong with this suggestion?
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Taser on October 21, 2011, 08:50:40 am
I see nothing wrong with it. Has potential.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Kafein on October 21, 2011, 10:36:38 am
Excellent suggestion
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Banok on October 26, 2011, 08:30:54 pm
It would be nice for battle to have some objective other than simply killing. (Or another mode, such as the old Search and Destroy of Warband.)

Then there would be a reason and need to move instead of now where it is either:
a) charge
b) camp
c) both teams camp and wait for master of the field

exactly.

this is why they made fight and destroy in warband problem it was supposed to be like S&D in CoD where you can win by killing or by objective if enemy team is camping, which is great. however it wasn't well balanced/implemented in warband and it just ended up being each team takes it in turns to camp. for a start the objectives weren't equidistant to team spawnpoint, which was a huge fail.

we need battle with 100% master the field OR new gamemode "king of the hill" OR rework of fight and destroy. I would like to see capture the flag also and stronghold too. I basically am sick to death of battle because of reasons in OP, and never really liked siege mode.

I think my 13 shield skill alt will fit perfectly in this new battle!

I thought the same for capturing flag on siege mode but truth is while amusing they actually suck.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Chen1201 on October 26, 2011, 08:40:32 pm
basically what ur suggesting is king of the hill and i also support this

WOULD BE SSOOOOOO MUCH FUN  :P :D
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Engine on October 26, 2011, 09:16:01 pm
Sounds good in theory, but I think it would just lead to more boring gameplay as too many people decide to be "strategic" and camp 4 minutes until MotF appears, instead of actually helping their team.

EDIT: However, I DO think it would be kickass if MotF appeared rarely and at random. Just every now and then. It'd really change up gameplay for the better IMO.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Vexus on October 26, 2011, 09:26:43 pm
Please do it!

I simply hate battle mode because it always turns with bundle of stickss on roofs camping for the whole time.

But make it appear when half the time has passed so you give people time to fight or if they insist on camping they are forced to move out if they want the multiplier.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Teeth on October 26, 2011, 09:42:09 pm
As soon as there are 5 people left on either of the teams the flags should appear. No more draws because of a delaying fucktard. It doesn't really decrease the chances of the losing team for a win on the brink, it just concentrates and speeds up the fight.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Patoson on October 26, 2011, 10:04:17 pm
As soon as there are 5 people left on either of the teams the flags should appear. No more draws because of a delaying fucktard. It doesn't really decrease the chances of the losing team for a win on the brink, it just concentrates and speeds up the fight.

This is quite a good idea. Also, why don't we have a TDM mode in cRPG?
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Banok on October 26, 2011, 10:07:44 pm
yeah above is a pretty good idea

PS: flag should be near centre of map so its not a race that cav win. ie. when I was last guy left vs pecores guys, who didnt engage me just ran. then used horse to ride to flag before me, and win.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Zekerage on October 27, 2011, 12:04:00 am
As soon as there are 5 people left on either of the teams the flags should appear.

That doesn't seem like such a good idea. It would suck for the last five to go against 10+ dudes all in the same spot (the flags) just because the rest of their team is retarded/got facerolled.

Also, if this idea interests you, you should take a look at This (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,8845.0.html) thread. (sorry for jacking it for the second time!). The ideas, as well as questions and concerns are pretty well explained and addressed. Please give it a look.

-Zylo
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: bilwit on October 27, 2011, 03:16:52 am
This is why battle maps on siege mode is the best.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Joker86 on January 12, 2012, 12:22:31 pm
While this suggestion is not that bad and would surely help to lower delaying, you now have (at least) two people who are against it.

Autobalancer still fails incredibly often, and often enough we have 5:0 or 5:1 maps where the winning team won everyround with more than twenty survivors (so it was nowhere close).

It's frustrating enough to be in the other team and still seeing your teammates charge headlong into the meat grinder, although they should KNOW this won't help anything, as the other team has the higher average skill.

If you introduce some kind of "King of the Hill", there will be only one place on the map, where the battle can be fought, and thus rendering a lot of possibilities for teamplay and tactics completely useless, as you can't take advantage of a certain house, hill or ruin that's a bit off on the map. The game would be reduced to pure reflexes, no brain usage and thus no soul, at least for my understanding of fun.

That's why I am against the suggestion.


I wouldn't be against it if it didn't replace, but simply complement (?) battle mode. But if you get a mode that's almost exclusively about skill, I want a mode that's about tactics.

What I would like to see is some kind of "domination" mode.

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Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on January 12, 2012, 01:26:30 pm
i wouldnt like to play with flags right from the start, it would reduce battle to rush for flag
but flags showing up 2-3 minute before the round ends, yes
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Casimir on January 12, 2012, 02:12:01 pm
necro much joker?
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on January 12, 2012, 02:32:50 pm
Stop electrocuting the coma patients. Dead thread was dead :/
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Idzo on January 12, 2012, 03:23:37 pm
It's not one the best idea, i don't have better one but +1 from me.. Better this than chase around delayers...
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Joker86 on January 12, 2012, 03:41:53 pm
Stop electrocuting the coma patients. Dead thread was dead :/

necro much joker?

Banok was referring to this topic in another topic, and I thought it would be wrong to take the discussion into the new one, but on the other hand I wanted to say that I think Banok has not found the solution like he claimed in the newer thread.  :?
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 12, 2012, 03:52:40 pm
why all the hype? Even if it kicks in only at the end I think this will change the mode for the bad, it could even encourage camping as long as the flags doesnt appear. But we could give it a try, of course.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: HUtH on January 12, 2012, 04:56:42 pm
simple and obvious, yet so ingenious idea

Edit: now i see it' a necropoly...
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 12, 2012, 05:09:59 pm
Of course every round should have MOTF.  Please post this in the suggestions section and put up a poll with it.
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: Oberyn on January 12, 2012, 05:13:33 pm
I'm sure there's a server where this is in, I think on Pecores?
Title: Re: Every round of battle should be "Become master the field"
Post by: MrShine on January 12, 2012, 05:29:37 pm
I don't know this seems like a great idea.  MOTF at 1 minute before round's end.  Most of the round is unaffected, but we don't draw anymore.