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Title: Archery damage
Post by: Adamar on October 12, 2011, 10:47:07 pm
I just left the game because I must report this: I shot 5 bodkin arrows with my mw longbow into the chest of some stationary afk guy who was wearing a byrnie or a Druzhina Mail Shirt and he didn't die, which is wierd since I remenber killing tincans with less. An ally then finished the job with his falchion.
This is not a ranting thread, Im just surprised. Is archery really that nerfed? Or could this be some kind of afk glitch?
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Leesin on October 12, 2011, 11:28:49 pm
Screenshot or it didn't happen.




lol joking, which server were you on and did you visibily see he had 5 arrows in his chest?
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Kafein on October 12, 2011, 11:35:49 pm
Damage is extremely random. With ranged weapons, distance matters a lot (shotgun effect).
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Bulzur on October 12, 2011, 11:40:15 pm
Option 1 : You missed him 3 times.
Option 2 : You couldn't see his hair color because you were too far.
Option 3 : You were the unluckiest fellow, doing the least amount of damage, and he was the pure STR and IF character, with an heirloomed armor and gloves, giving +14 body armor.
Option 4 : You're a lier.


All options : Why should you remember when it took you (if it really did) 5 arrows to kill someone and not when it took you 2 to kill a tincan who wasn't even wounded at first ? Isn't this a bit... biaised ? And irrelevant ? And definitely ranting ?
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Adamar on October 13, 2011, 12:31:44 am
I saw him flinch from my shots 5 times, couldn't see the arrows easely because he was at a distance(although I can't be certain about anything at this point. I may have missed 1 shot. Hell it may have even been some other armor model, but it certainly wasn't plate);
I aimed accurately; 1 sword hit finished him off;
Im not lieing nor ranting, since other people die with less.Im just weirded out, I mean, I KNOW he's taking a ton of dmg but he just didn't die!;
He was apparently a pure polearm fighter, so the str and loomed armor theory may make sence;
I think it was the Inglorious server, as I remember the server rules saying something about nerfed xbows;
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Siiem on October 13, 2011, 12:54:51 am
Option 4 : You're a liar.

Or option 5. 2 PD
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Leshma on October 13, 2011, 01:00:09 am
Damage is extremely random.

This
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: SquishMitten on October 13, 2011, 01:01:13 am
Or option 5. 2 PD
I shot 5 bodkin arrows with my mw longbow
my mw longbow
mw longbow
longbow
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Christo on October 13, 2011, 01:03:48 am
You forgot to increase font size for enhanced Drama Effects,  8-)
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Patricia on October 13, 2011, 01:05:10 am
I saw him flinch from my shots 5 times, couldn't see the arrows easely because he was at a distance(although I can't be certain about anything at this point. I may have missed 1 shot. Hell it may have even been some other armor model, but it certainly wasn't plate);
I aimed accurately; 1 sword hit finished him off;
Im not lieing nor ranting, since other people die with less.Im just weirded out, I mean, I KNOW he's taking a ton of dmg but he just didn't die!;
He was apparently a pure polearm fighter, so the str and loomed armor theory may make sence;
I think it was the Inglorious server, as I remember the server rules saying something about nerfed xbows;

If it wasn't the official server, odds are good that the pierce damage on bodkins wasn't implemented there yet.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: SquishMitten on October 13, 2011, 01:05:48 am
yeah, maybe changes to the font colours too, followed by a hilarious meme
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: SeQuel on October 13, 2011, 01:08:10 am
I think the only logical move here is to buff archery.

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Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on October 13, 2011, 01:57:46 am
I doubt you have mw bodkins and mw longbow when you need so many shots for him^^
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Tot. on October 13, 2011, 02:14:50 am
Lol.

@OP: you do realize that this

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isnt longbow, even despite that its a bow and its quite long, right?

Actual longbow takes 2 shots to kill medium/heavy armored dude.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Adamar on October 13, 2011, 03:05:48 am
Alright, alright that's enought. Jeez...

It was probably some kind of bug, weird modded stuff. I accept that.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Paul on October 13, 2011, 03:27:12 am
Point blank(6 PD) the minimum damage with a MW longbow and mundane bodkins would be around 19 or 20 against let's say 50 body armor. So only with being very unlucky more than 3 or 4 arrows would be needed. The question is how far away from your target you have been because speed loss due friction has quite an impact on damage.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Kenji on October 13, 2011, 04:57:05 am
I think the only logical move here is to buff archery.

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Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Prpavi on October 13, 2011, 09:49:36 am
I think the only logical move here is to buff archery.


yes this.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: dado on October 13, 2011, 10:10:24 am
+1 for buffing archery ! come on they need 3 arrows to kil me with 70 body armor(24 strgh , 5 if )

and maybe to add some % on dmg for every 50 wpf , something like this: 50 wpf = 20% on dmg , 150 wpf = 60% more dmg

and one more thing , add ability if u hit head arrow can go through enemy head and hit guy behind!
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Vibe on October 13, 2011, 10:11:58 am
Add mountable dragons for archers and skill "Dragon Archery".
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: dado on October 13, 2011, 10:14:50 am
Add mountable dragons for archers and skill "Dragon Archery".
+1

Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on October 13, 2011, 01:09:57 pm
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Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: _Sebastian_ on October 13, 2011, 03:06:37 pm
Actual longbow takes 2 shots to kill medium/heavy armored dude.
Yes I can do this.

I kill all heavy tincans with only 2 body shots, but I do this with;
10PD + 150wpf + mw longbow + mw bodkins and 30str
So I deal 102pierce (thx for Paul's damage calculation)
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raw_damage = (bow_damage + arrow_damage) * (archery_wpf * 0.01 * 0.15 + 0.85) * (min(power_draw, difficulty + 4) * 0.14 + 1) + strength / 5.0
But every 6PD longbow archer need's 3 or 4 bodkins to kill a tincan.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on October 13, 2011, 03:11:18 pm
I also only need 2 or 3 shots, but that's because I have 7 PD and hell yeah 8 wm with 173 points in archery which gives a good damage boost :)
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Adamar on October 13, 2011, 03:33:34 pm
People! This thread is not about buffing archery!

Point blank(6 PD) the minimum damage with a MW longbow and mundane bodkins would be around 19 or 20 against let's say 50 body armor. So only with being very unlucky more than 3 or 4 arrows would be needed. The question is how far away from your target you have been because speed loss due friction has quite an impact on damage.

I was shooting from the upper lane, in the middle of the nord town map, into the lower spawn where my target was afk.

I also only need 2 or 3 shots, but that's because I have 7 PD and hell yeah 8 wm with 173 points in archery which gives a good damage boost :)

Dude, how did u get that build?

Add mountable dragons for archers and skill "Dragon Archery".

+2
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: karasu on October 13, 2011, 11:30:23 pm
He must be new to the random "god" effect bug.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: OttomanSniper on October 14, 2011, 02:15:32 pm
Archery is bad but 3 shot enough for this. If ur target tincan min 6-7 shot need.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Shpritza on October 14, 2011, 03:16:01 pm
Add mountable dragons for archers and skill "Dragon Archery".

+1    :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Gisbert_of_Thuringia on October 14, 2011, 05:13:21 pm

Dude, how did u get that build?


By going for lvl 32^^
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Patricia on October 14, 2011, 06:25:57 pm
Archery is bad but 3 shot enough for this. If ur target tincan min 6-7 shot need.

Been testing archery damage a whole lot with my good friend Gafferjack.

I have 93 hp and 79 body armor, depending on the diceroll he needs anywhere from 2-4 arrows to kill me from pretty much any range, or 1 in the head with 75 head armor.

He only has 6 PD too, but then again he does use MW rus bow and MW bodkins.
Title: Re: Archery damage
Post by: Adamar on October 14, 2011, 06:26:43 pm
By going for lvl 32^^

Ouch! I rather loom all my stuff first.