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Title: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Convictual on October 01, 2011, 10:17:48 am
Theoretically, if I were to make it to 35 and get 15 pt, would it be worth it?
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Malaclypse on October 01, 2011, 10:27:11 am
Theoretically yes, insofar as anything having to do with committing time to this game is "worth it".
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Convictual on October 01, 2011, 10:29:00 am
Woot, i think im gonna do that because throwing is fun :D Maybe i'll be able to 1hit with lances xD
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: played on October 01, 2011, 10:31:15 am
See you in a year.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Amoebe on October 01, 2011, 10:40:06 am
Btw: with the 1 wm you would get with 3 agi, you could have 125 wpf. and that isn't enough for 10pt i think. so in a year you can have a 9pt thrower without agi, armor and accuracy. or if you want armor and be even slower you had <9pt. sounds like a great plan.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Convictual on October 01, 2011, 11:18:15 am
Ever tried 13 pt build? still adds damage to throwing just can't pick up the throwing weapons when thrown, unless u have a certain amount of wpf
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Ozin on October 01, 2011, 02:24:46 pm
15 pt is totally viable
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Guzzy on October 01, 2011, 02:27:14 pm
If you wan't to troll, yes
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: okiN on October 01, 2011, 02:52:15 pm
No, because with one point of weapon master you only get enough WPF to use PT9, and that's if you're not carrying any weight.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Kafein on October 01, 2011, 05:36:39 pm
I found this :

It means that effectively you only have either 9-10 power throw.

your 11 PT is a placebo that deals no extra damage and is a wasted skill point.

Is PT above 10 supposed to work ?
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: joespose on October 01, 2011, 05:53:20 pm
Your PT is reduced to the amount you wpf allows, so at 130 wpf in throwing you would count as having 10 PT even if you had put 15 points into it
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 01, 2011, 05:58:57 pm
You could do it if you were level 35 or 36 I think.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: cmp on October 01, 2011, 06:03:03 pm
If you can reach 200 WPF, sure.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 01, 2011, 06:03:57 pm
So there you have it.
Viable? Yes.
Practical? No.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 06:08:39 pm
I found this :

Is PT above 10 supposed to work ?

10+ skills got fixed with a march patch... that statement is old as the sun.

anyway i found the lowest profiency to play with 10 PT and was 140ish (by lowest i mean with the needed accuracy to throw a jarid to a single target 10 meters away... if you plan to throw in the mess, well you can have a little lower wpf)... so at 35 with 11PT, i would do 33/15 (150-155 wpf) instead 45/3. even 36/12 but not less agi than that.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Cyclopsided on October 01, 2011, 08:35:16 pm
Power throw requires 13 Throwing WPF per level.
If you don't have have the WPF you don't get the damage benefit of PT. Keep in mind armor lowers WPF.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Panoply on October 02, 2011, 01:35:24 am
I haven't tested this extensively, but from what I can tell, even if you don't meet the WPF requirements from your PT, you actually DO benefit from the extra PT. If you do not meet the WPF requirement, you cannot pick up ammo you've thrown, but you still do the extra damage from the PT above and beyond what you have the WPF for.

I've only tested it for PTs 4 - 6 with heavy throwing axes with a friend in the duel server. The only thing I varied was the PT, not the WPF nor the equipment of either two players, and I was at the WPF threshold required for 4 PT with the equipment I wore. I did enough trials of body shots that I can be reasonably confident that there was a significant difference in damage.

I could still be wrong, and it's possible the latest couple of patches fixed the issue. I'm sure it's not intended though.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Leesin on October 02, 2011, 02:36:31 pm
I thought you did get the extra damage from the PT but if you didn't meet the requirements you suffered from less accuracy and maybe throwing speed? my 11pt @ level 30 with stones seemed to work fine and do alot of damage even though I had suffered with not enough WPF for the 11 pt message.
Title: Re: Achieving 15 pt, is it worth it?
Post by: Shik on October 02, 2011, 07:49:33 pm
If you do not meet the WPF requirement, you cannot pick up ammo you've thrown
The reason why you cannot pick up the ammo is because you no longer have enough power throw to pick it up, meaning that you lose the damage bonus.