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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Slamz on September 26, 2011, 05:36:35 am

Title: Ladders. Ladders everywhere!
Post by: Slamz on September 26, 2011, 05:36:35 am
Anyone else feel like the new weapon racks are making a mockery of siege?

There is no longer much of a penalty for carrying a ladder.  Apply ladder.  Go to weapon rack.  Get a new ladder OR get your normal gear.

Result:
LADDERS.  LADDERS EVERYWHERE.

Really ladders make siege map design troublesome anyway.  Some maps have been modified specifically because player deployed ladders made them way too easy and other maps still need to be modified for that reason.  Ladders being infinitely available during 1 life via weapon racks is kind of troublesome.  Weapon racks effectively make siege ladders into a 0 slot option.


At the very least, maybe some sort of modifier could be added: if nobody is on a ladder, it takes triple damage when hit.  That might do a lot to mitigate "ladder mania" without simply removing them from weapon racks.

Or maybe ladders just shouldn't be available from weapon racks on siege servers...
Title: Re: Ladders. Ladders everywhere!
Post by: Digglez on September 26, 2011, 07:37:56 am
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I disagree, there arent that many ladders.  Weapon rack is 1 shotable and most maps are stacked for offense anyways
Title: Re: Ladders. Ladders everywhere!
Post by: Turkhammer on September 26, 2011, 06:45:36 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on September 26, 2011, 07:00:35 pm
At Sunday NightMare WE SETTLE THIS IN A 60-man LADDER BATTLE ROYAL MATCH FOR THE UNIFIED WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CRPG CHAMPIONSHIP!!!


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Title: Re: Ladders. Ladders everywhere!
Post by: Joelturuz on September 26, 2011, 08:55:43 pm
The defender team also can benefit from this. Infinite construction sites are quite a pain in the arse once allowed to build up.
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Post by: Penitent on September 27, 2011, 07:20:50 pm
Yeah, this isn't an issue.
Construction can be used by offense and defense...to great effect if used well.
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Post by: Knottamoon on September 27, 2011, 07:46:24 pm
Defend the ladders!
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Post by: Phazey on September 27, 2011, 07:48:23 pm
I love ladders  :oops:
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Post by: Knottamoon on September 27, 2011, 07:53:44 pm
I am [a]ttacking the ladders!
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Post by: bilwit on September 27, 2011, 08:21:46 pm
Ladders are awesome! Moer laddarz!
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Post by: Slamz on September 27, 2011, 11:14:15 pm
The defender team also can benefit from this. Infinite construction sites are quite a pain in the arse once allowed to build up.
Yes, we discovered that apparently part of the patch was to make it so that when two ladders come into contention, the first one down wins.  That's not how it worked before.

This makes defensive ladders a whole lot easier to use.  Used to be you had to get under the enemy ladders and throw your own and then defend it while it slowly fell over and killed all the ladders it hit.  Now you just have to run to the best ladder spots and put your own ladder up so that incoming ladders will hit it.  e.g., lay your ladder horizontally along the top of a wall and enemy ladders that try to land there will get destroyed.

Now that I know this, I don't mind the "ladder spam" so much.
Title: Re: Ladders. Ladders everywhere!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 27, 2011, 11:14:58 pm
Did someone say ladder spam?

i miss my ladders  :cry:
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Title: Re: Ladders. Ladders everywhere!
Post by: ThePoopy on September 28, 2011, 12:28:50 am
thats not spam, its a 3 floor house
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Post by: balbaroth on September 28, 2011, 12:44:35 am
The defender team also can benefit from this. Infinite construction sites are quite a pain in the arse once allowed to build up.

in NA Siege construction sites are not allowed on defense  as far i as remember , people ended up blocking the entrances , 

  Thing is : before , there was a few individuals who putted ladders , now its organized and people know exactly where to put ladders   to avoid 90% of the siege map

    IMO ladders should be removed all together even from siege  , you cant build fair maps with chokepoints when you know people wont use them :D

   No wonder defense always lose :(