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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Dragon on September 22, 2011, 08:43:36 am

Title: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Dragon on September 22, 2011, 08:43:36 am
Hi Guys, i have a Katana in C-RPG and i find 95cm Range is to short for this Weapon i will a new Range of Katana.
I have look on Samuria Websites and on this Websites is a Katana 102-104cm Range.

95 Range is not right, Katanas was 102-104 Range.

I can not fight with this Weapon bevor come Update was the Range 105 and now 95 is shit.

Katana is now 10cm shorter as bevor.

Ever when i think i can hitting a Enemy than make i a fail Hit and i die.

My Poll is i will a longer Katanas for all!!!!

I hate this many one Hand Weapons have more Range as Katana is very shit. This Weapons are longer as Katana, Nordic Champion's Sword, Knightly Arming Sword, Side Sword usw..... what is this for shit?

Okay sorry for my Bad English but i have ever sleeping in the Scool by English  :wink:
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Corwin on September 22, 2011, 08:45:56 am
Having in mind new bouncing situation, this is actually a buff.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Artyem on September 22, 2011, 08:50:40 am
101 speed rating            98 speed rating
16 pierce                        23 pierce
37 cut                             36 cut
1.3 weight                     1.8 weight
95 length                       106 length

Katana                          Longsword

I think both are fine as it is, the Katana does 1 more cut damage and is 3 points faster than the longsword. In turn, it's short and light.


No complaints.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Digglez on September 22, 2011, 08:51:53 am
my boken's blade is only 29inches (longest available for a tall person) = 73.7cm
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Camaris on September 22, 2011, 08:52:02 am
Katana is to fast for being any longer.
If you would increase length you had to decrease damage.
I dont think some people would like it as katana just got a buff.

I love katana its a pity i cant use it for style reasons, cause i am in hre.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Vibe on September 22, 2011, 08:54:46 am
Katana just got buffed... not to mention it's fast as shit
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Spawny on September 22, 2011, 09:33:36 am
Besides, it's always been 95 in length.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Paul on September 22, 2011, 09:41:13 am
Katana overall model length is about 120cm. The measurement of the reach attribute starts at the forward part of the hilt and ends at the point.

u mad?
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on September 22, 2011, 10:58:44 am
The whole point with the katana is its short range. Don't make it another longsword clone. It's a whole different style.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Tot. on September 22, 2011, 11:23:19 am
37 cut? Really? Same as fucking greatsword? 

Makes sense.  :lol:
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Dexxtaa on September 22, 2011, 03:50:26 pm
I'm fascinated by how everyone is using a different measuring system.

Is the in game measuring system in cm?

Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Bobthehero on September 22, 2011, 04:25:54 pm
Would make sense, I have an arming sword IRL, the blade is about a meter long (100 cm) and the reach of most 1 handed sword rolls around 95-100 units of reach.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Spawny on September 22, 2011, 05:29:04 pm
Here's a piece from some site about katana if anyone's interested:

The length of the blade varied considerably during the course of its history. In the late 14th and early 15th centuries, katana blades tended to be between 70 to 73 cm (27.6 to 28.7 in) in length. While during the early 16th century, the average length was closer to 60 cm (23.6 in). By the late 16th century, the average length returned to approximately 73 cm (28.7 in).
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Bobthehero on September 22, 2011, 05:31:00 pm
Thats short as fuck  :? The blade lenght of an arming sword back then was 73.9 cm short blades, short blades everywhere...
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Teeth on September 22, 2011, 05:36:34 pm
I think both are fine as it is, the Katana does 1 more cut damage and is 3 points faster than the longsword. In turn, it's short and light.
I see the low weight of the katana as an advantage. Carrying a 1h/2h weapon with 1.3 weight makes you faster than a 1h/2h weapon with 2 weight. As a ninja with a miaodao I experienced getting outrun by my fellow ninjas with katanas.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: dreadnok on September 22, 2011, 05:43:48 pm
christ get ahold of yourself
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: DrKronic on September 22, 2011, 05:56:45 pm
even I say no to this, I had no problem with the katana of the past, I'm sad I traded mine before it got a reasonable buff(although its still weaker than it was originally ingame)

no reason to make it longer, it fills a niche especially now with good cut damage great speed but short range low weight(weightstun from others)
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 22, 2011, 06:04:26 pm
Katana overall model length is about 120cm. The measurement of the reach attribute starts at the forward part of the hilt and ends at the point.

u mad?

Are people just ignoring this post?
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Gravoth_iii on September 22, 2011, 06:07:38 pm
I just barely understood this post, had a good laugh tho.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on September 22, 2011, 06:44:57 pm
I see the low weight of the katana as an advantage. Carrying a 1h/2h weapon with 1.3 weight makes you faster than a 1h/2h weapon with 2 weight. As a ninja with a miaodao I experienced getting outrun by my fellow ninjas with katanas.
Then again, getting stunned everytime a 2hander or a polearm holds an attack is to me a bigger disadvantage than not running as fast as the other ninjas :P

Anyway, this should be in game balance.

And Gravoth, I didn't really understand his post. Is he saying that they shortened the katana last patch or just that it's in general too short. Whatever the case, I like its shortiness. It forces you to behave a little different than with other swords. Paul already answered him I think.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Bjord on September 22, 2011, 06:51:37 pm
He's just whining about some phantom reach when it's really not that literate when it comes to range of weapons. They don't include hilt length, apparently.

Basically, what Urist said yeah.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Inequity on September 22, 2011, 08:14:48 pm
b-b-b-but my hanzo steeel

katanas in real honourable japan are... mumble mumble
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Tyrell on September 22, 2011, 08:58:15 pm
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Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: MrShovelFace on September 22, 2011, 11:00:53 pm
I'm fascinated by how everyone is using a different measuring system.

Is the in game measuring system in cm?

lol yeah where did you get the idea that 1 length is 1 cm?
and ill have you know that these 'katanas' you speak of are called strange swords
theres no japs in calradia im afraid
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Shigeru on September 22, 2011, 11:06:51 pm
The Katana length is fine. ;) I'd rather have it be relatively short than watch them increase the length at the expense of its' other attributes.

Learn the reach of your weapon and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Thomek on September 23, 2011, 07:29:28 am
Then again, getting stunned everytime a 2hander or a polearm holds an attack is to me a bigger disadvantage than not running as fast as the other ninjas :P

lol :D

Anyway.. Well, you can't just backwaddle and outrange spam any shielder with a katana. You can't break his shield in reasonable time, so your only chance is to trick him so you get behind him and slash him in the back. (or chamber, or kick, ok ok)

If you are low on athletics and in heavy armor you cannot even do that, and are left with chamber or kick. Which is not really options because they mean your certain death.

Learn to block anything, and learn to duel facehug style. Most duelers practice range management, and get's thrown off if u facehug with a 2h.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Bobthehero on September 23, 2011, 08:17:22 am
With a strenght build you will break the shield sooner ;)
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: JiblyjibjibJiblet on September 23, 2011, 12:24:50 pm
Katana range is not real?
Katana's arn't long at all compared to other swords, in real life.
My hand and a half sword (longsword/bastard sword, whatever tickles your fancy) is a good bit longer than my katana.
and the main point, its only a representation of it in a bloomin video game.

Maybe they should just make a flamberge for you with 101 speed, will you be happy? or will you winge cos you get outranged by pikes.

Nuff said. goodbye
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: ToastyToast on February 12, 2012, 04:42:23 pm
Yeah, the katana is fine at the length it is. If you had a long, fast weapon with only 9 strength requirement, it would be WAY overpowered.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on February 12, 2012, 04:46:29 pm
why did you resurrect this thread?  :|
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: Leshma on February 12, 2012, 05:00:20 pm
I'm glad that OP stopped playing c-rpg.
Title: Re: Katana Range is not Real!!
Post by: _Tak_ on February 14, 2012, 06:10:47 am
It forced people to have AGI build since it's a short weapon