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Title: wtf guys
Post by: darmaster on September 20, 2011, 03:40:49 pm
stop buffing archers please :l
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 03:41:40 pm
Stop whining please. Anyway. If archers bully you DL Autoblocker. That way you can block arrows too :) Helped alot of people, like chadz, Cmp and Wooki. Trust me it works.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: darmaster on September 20, 2011, 03:44:47 pm
whining? they cry and they get what they want, i'm not the whiner here..
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 03:46:53 pm
You just whined again.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Prpavi on September 20, 2011, 03:54:35 pm
You just whined again.

haha i love this gal
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 04:00:31 pm
Lol. I know right. Makes two of us, cause I love me too. But well. 2 out of afew billion or what-ever-saur-many people exists in the world. (I could care less about that to be frank.) ain't many.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Prpavi on September 20, 2011, 04:02:58 pm
i think there might be a few more, well not as many as my devoted followers but still...
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 04:05:07 pm
Prpavi. You are my dedicated follower.. And you have -your- dedicated followers. Pause to think. What does that make your followers?

Hoohohoho..
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Nelo on September 20, 2011, 04:30:20 pm
what buff exactly? i only feel nerfs....

jump shot....
lesser bodkin dmg....
sucks.....
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Xant on September 20, 2011, 04:35:38 pm
That's because you have a longbow :D
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 04:57:22 pm
What Xant said is the truth. Sorry Nelo. Archers per general se, were buffed. Longbow was Nerfed/Buffed minimally, dependant on perspective.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Nelo on September 20, 2011, 05:42:35 pm
T_T but i love my long bow :S now its the slowest weapon ingame i think with xbow speed bow :S
now i got forced to use another bow because the devs doing bs to my bow? T_T i hope there would be a longbow buff or something like that :S
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 05:47:20 pm
You could make a Longbow firing squad. In term, Devs should buff Longbow's effecting Range-Penetration, for Longbow realism, as in English Battles. Longbows were -quite- terrifying weapons.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Nelo on September 20, 2011, 05:50:07 pm
than i need more arrow speed T_T else you dont hit anyone except you are a magician or something and can see in the future :S
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 20, 2011, 05:51:19 pm
Then I am a magician and me Loki sWalker and others regularly know how to look into the future.

Learn to lead your target.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 05:54:28 pm
Tears -is- a magician, truly.

Made my woh woh, tingle tingle.

Can lead me as your target, alright..  :oops:
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Nelo on September 20, 2011, 06:28:50 pm
ah yeah... but really it depends of the map and the range you shot at. mostly when i tried to shot someone on a far distance the didnt notice the direction from my shot and run in a circle or run like ants...
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: darmaster on September 20, 2011, 06:34:25 pm
than i need more arrow speed T_T else you dont hit anyone except you are a magician or something and can see in the future :S


WUT? arrows are fast as bolts now :l
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 06:34:39 pm
If they run like ants, shoot like ants. As an archer, Human psychiche is your friend. "What would you do". Continually ask yourself that, whenever possible, without reducing your reaction rate.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Nelo on September 20, 2011, 06:46:24 pm
easy to say but the problem is 100 people = 100 opinions :D and shot like ants well you cant really say where the going to its like gambling :D
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 20, 2011, 06:52:19 pm
Tears -is- a magician, truly.

Made my woh woh, tingle tingle.

Can lead me as your target, alright..  :oops:

I am pleased to hear that it was a magical moment for both of us.
easy to say but the problem is 100 people = 100 opinions :D and shot like ants well you cant really say where the going to its like gambling :D

Your problem in being unable to hit the target is unfortunately you working against yourself. You need to stop releasing the arrow then looking to see if it strikes the target. Instead, visualize the arrow in your target, then release and make it so. You will find that you are merely an instrument to the end.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Xant on September 20, 2011, 06:52:51 pm
Well uh, it /should/ be like gambling when you're trying to shoot people at long distance who are moving randomly to avoid getting shot.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 20, 2011, 06:54:33 pm
Archery buff ? My +8 pierce damage now +4 ...

Edit : Sorry i dont know "fake pierce". My +8 cut now +4 pierce is this ok ?
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 06:57:21 pm
Oh, but is it the avoidance of being shot, or the avoidance of being, that is the true matter here? Your mind is your armor as the ninja's say.. Twist it.. Your mind is your weapon, just aswell. Major parts of online games work with Mental warfare, being the major factor, when determining winners and losers. Needless to say I am the loser at all times. But think for a moment. Use the brain you were given. Use the mentality which reside within you. Truly then, you will find this whole experience much more to your liking.. Trust me.. Listen to me when I say, that it is, as I say. This is the essence of warfare.. Psychological aspect. Mentality. Wether conscious or subconscious.

And there you stand, at the end of the line. You know it just aswell as I do.

"OttomanSniper is fail and fails to fail to fail, to read the mood. Shoo."
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 20, 2011, 06:58:29 pm
Archery buff ? My +8 pierce damage now +4 ...

For longbows the damage increased as mcuh as the damage decreased from Bodkins. Per shot, if you are using a longbow the damage is identical, since the bodkin is 4 less and the Longbow is 4 more.

Just like Rus Bows for example, the damage was decreased by one, but arrows went up one damage anyways besides bodkins, so the damage actually stayed the same.

For any other bow besides the Long Bow, the damage will Increase when using bodkins as compared to before, as since ammunition now dictates damage type your bow is now doing Pierce Damage. which does significantly more damage as it ignores armour to a greater degree then cut.

So yes, it was a buff.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Keshian on September 20, 2011, 07:15:07 pm
I feel like I am reading a combination of Sun Tzu's "Art of War" and the "Kama Sutra" when ToD and Ronrinesu are both typing in a  thread.  get a room.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: _Sebastian_ on September 20, 2011, 07:27:01 pm
This patch destroyed my playstyle...

Im using a MW Longbow + MW Arrows(27ammo) and now I'm doing crappy cut damage.
NOW... I have to use my MW Bokins(17ammo) to do pierce damage...
and now I need 2 quviers, because of the small ammount of bodkins.
So I have 0 slot left and I can only choose this ugly toy-hammer for melee.

But I want to use my 3+Mace and do still piercedamge with the normal arrows...

The Longbow and maybe the Rusbow should allways do pierce damage.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 07:32:05 pm
I feel like I am reading a combination of Sun Tzu's "Art of War" and the "Kama Sutra" when ToD and Ronrinesu are both typing in a  thread.  get a room.

Someone obtained the loot, Jealous-face-much, Helmet.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Keshian on September 20, 2011, 07:40:32 pm
This patch destroyed my playstyle...

Im using a MW Longbow + MW Arrows(27ammo) and now I'm doing crappy cut damage.
NOW... I have to use my MW Bokins(17ammo) to do pierce damage...
and now I need 2 quviers, because of the small ammount of bodkins.
So I have 0 slot left and I can only choose this ugly toy-hammer for melee.

But I want to use my 3+Mace and do still piercedamge with the normal arrows...

The Longbow and maybe the Rusbow should allways do pierce damage.

Simple solution, do what i do - use 1 set of mw bodkins, 1 set of mw arrows (2nd set) as you tend to use the first 17 a lot more than the last 27 and you can always pick up more off the ground like throwers have had to do for forever.  Then trade MW longbow + gold for MW horn bow and use mace or settle for being proficient in using a hammer with your MW longbow like every other longbow user has had to do.  I t actually is a buff to archers as the shoot speeds are all higher so a horn bow has more shoot speed then the old longbow had.

Ronrinesu - I expected a more flamboyant and risque retort then that, come on now.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 20, 2011, 07:45:31 pm
The fact that you expected me to talk back to you, clearly shows the level of respect you grant me, without proper reason. I am not amused. I am sorry you feel that way. Do enjoy, however.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 20, 2011, 10:57:18 pm
TY, Tears_of_Destiny.

I can kill 2 - 3 shot normal armor. (after and before patch)

Stats : Power Draw 8 - Bodkin +3 - Horn Bow +3

I dont feel any change after last patch.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Snoozer on September 20, 2011, 11:28:19 pm
im confused i thought they made the attack based off the arrow...so now i fyou use bodkins u do peirce thus be able to get a FASTER bow to do more damage.(i nefer understood what made someone think an arrow does cut....)

and personally if you have problems with another class u need to work on your strategy or your build because i have not had any increase in problems with archers....though HA's seem strangely pesky all of the sudden.

(im pole-arm btw)
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on September 21, 2011, 06:57:13 am
This thread. xD
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 21, 2011, 08:55:19 am
This thread. xD

This hottie. xD
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on September 21, 2011, 06:26:03 pm
This hottie. xD
Good to see you back on form after the long spear nerf. It was almost depressing.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 21, 2011, 07:50:32 pm
I know right. I made a post "The Weapon Of Legends." In support of the old Long Spear, though. Might wanna read up on it. Game Balance thread, I believe.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Siiem on September 21, 2011, 07:54:07 pm
I know right. I made a post "The Weapon Of Legends." In support of the old Long Spear, though. Might wanna read up on it. Game Balance thread, I believe.

The old long spear was a glitch of a fkn weapon.
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Ronrinesu on September 21, 2011, 07:57:54 pm
The old long spear was a glitch of a fkn weapon.

Your face is a glitch of a fkn weapon?
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on September 21, 2011, 09:06:59 pm
Your face is a glitch of a fkn weapon?
Slackin'
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Tzar on September 21, 2011, 10:55:09 pm
TY, Tears_of_Destiny.

I can kill 2 - 3 shot normal armor. (after and before patch)

Stats : Power Draw 8 - Bodkin +3 - Horn Bow +3

I dont feel any change after last patch.

Problem is now you can also do that with any armor even 78 body armor melts away now....
Title: Re: wtf guys
Post by: Zekerage on September 22, 2011, 12:54:40 am
I'm a WIZARD. I still prefer my MW Longbow to my MW Horn. Just somethin about it.