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Title: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 17, 2011, 06:35:29 pm
Where is the "jump shot" ?  :evil:

Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 06:40:22 pm
Gone, brah.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Tot. on September 17, 2011, 06:47:14 pm
Is it really so hard to browse at least leading topics before making another one to cry in?
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 17, 2011, 06:49:56 pm
Is it really so hard to browse at least leading topics before making another one to cry in?

I dont cry its only question but u can give me 2 handers crying link about this topic.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Tzar on September 17, 2011, 07:03:59 pm
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Post by: OttomanSniper on September 17, 2011, 07:06:02 pm
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TY tzar i need this.

Return topic : I can give brifing about human anatomy. We can jump shot.  :D
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 07:12:14 pm
No brah.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Dezilagel on September 17, 2011, 07:13:52 pm
Jumpshooting was NOT removed because of realism!

Gosh, how many times does it need to be said?

Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 17, 2011, 07:24:27 pm
Jumpshooting was NOT removed because of realism!

Gosh, how many times does it need to be said?

No, i cant use jump shot today. And today (18.09.2011)



Ok we talk about realism.

Why i cant shot shielders foot ? Where is realism ?
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 07:24:58 pm
..Facepalm. Reading comprehension 10/10.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 17, 2011, 09:58:28 pm
TY tzar i need this.

Return topic : I can give brifing about human anatomy. We can jump shot.  :D

I can take you bow hunting.  We cannot jump shot and hit anything we want to hit except through sheer luck.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Rumblood on September 17, 2011, 10:53:14 pm
I can take you bow hunting.  We cannot jump shot and hit anything we want to hit except through sheer luck.

Holy shit, where is this server where lightning fast bunny hopping archers with laser precision aim, auto-tune and gold rims are playing? Because it sounds like that server needs a nerf!
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 17, 2011, 10:55:59 pm
When I jump shot, my reticule magically never opened wide up! Ever... Cuz I'm a cute bitch.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 18, 2011, 02:11:01 am
Holy shit, where is this server where lightning fast bunny hopping archers with laser precision aim, auto-tune and gold rims are playing? Because it sounds like that server needs a nerf!

You fail to take into account the context of my post and what it was responding to.   :rolleyes:
Dude brought "realism" into it saying we can jump shoot.
I brought realism back along with years of experience with a bow saying that "no, we cannot".

In-game I don't give a flying fuck whether archers can jump, spin and then release an arrow.  It's not realistic, but then again very few things in this game are, so fuck it.
Besides, nothing they ever do will make ranged less gay.  It simply is, and always will be, the premier playstyle of gay in this game simply because it's dealing damage to people that cannot damage them back (non-ranged.)  Like playing an FPS where some people only get the crowbar or knife while others get the knife AND a railgun.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: indigocylinder on September 18, 2011, 03:39:24 am
Don't think of it as a nerf.

Think of it as a gentle reminder of your general inferiority, that's all.

If you want to imagine the future of crpg, imagine a boot, stamping on an archer's face, forever
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Bulzur on September 18, 2011, 02:28:55 pm
Don't think of it as a nerf.

Yep, i don't think of it as an archer nerf. Rather as a cavalry buff.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Spa_geh_tea on September 18, 2011, 06:59:38 pm
I support anything that nerfs ranged. This game is not meant to be a CS mod.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 19, 2011, 08:06:29 am
This game is not meant to be a CS mod.

Amen
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Siiem on September 19, 2011, 10:47:42 am
I don't feel like archery has gotten nerfed at all, I can see the rape they inflict on the fellow polearmers and 2h'ers on the battlefield :S poor buggers.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Leshma on September 19, 2011, 10:59:33 am
Yo, buff ze long bow. It's piece of shat :?
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Native_ATS on September 19, 2011, 01:07:01 pm
I support anything that nerfs ranged. This game is not meant to be a CS mod.
umm it is CS, xbows are op
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Leshma on September 19, 2011, 01:13:29 pm
Unless we make Fasader GTX somehow, xbow will always be OP :D

I knew they would buff ranged in this patch, too bad I didn't prepare on time (I'm pub player so I have no idea when patch is coming...)
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: RandomDude on September 19, 2011, 03:04:47 pm
i think archery won the nerf battle since the latest patch

82 body armour, 18 str, 6 if and 1/3-1/2 hp taken with 1 arrow, cmon

Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: gazda on September 19, 2011, 03:18:14 pm
i think archery won the nerf battle since the latest patch

82 body armour, 18 str, 6 if and 1/3-1/2 hp taken with 1 arrow, cmon
headshot no helmet  :lol: that doesnt count :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: RandomDude on September 19, 2011, 11:43:49 pm
headshot no helmet  :lol: that doesnt count :mrgreen:

1 just took 80% off me - dunno where it hit tho :(
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Wookimonsta on September 21, 2011, 10:36:27 am
i used bow and arrow quite a bit in the past, i had enough trouble hitting a target normally, let alone jumping through the air.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Cepeshi on September 21, 2011, 10:42:13 am
so Gorath is archer irl  :shock:
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 21, 2011, 11:10:15 am
so Gorath is archer irl  :shock:

Yup.  Guns are ez mode hunting imo.  Or bitch mode, depending on how condensending you want to be about it.  Ideally we would get our kills with nothing more than a knife but sadly when it comes down to it:

1:  Even the fastest of us don't run very fast at all compared to even the most feeble of animals we might hunt (deer, elk, moose, bear, etc)
2:  Humans are fucking pathetic in the physical strength department compared to even the most feeble of animals we might hunt.  Unless we go after sickly newborns that have no speed or strength yet.  Which would still be bitch mode.

So bow hunting it is then.  Practicing with a sling bow at the river for fishing but I would like to bag a buck with a sling bow sometime soon.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Cepeshi on September 21, 2011, 11:13:31 am
Yup.  Guns are ez mode hunting imo.  Or bitch mode, depending on how condensending you want to be about it.  Ideally we would get our kills with nothing more than a knife but sadly when it comes down to it:

1:  Even the fastest of us don't run very fast at all compared to even the most feeble of animals we might hunt (deer, elk, moose, bear, etc)
2:  Humans are fucking pathetic in the physical strength department compared to even the most feeble of animals we might hunt.  Unless we go after sickly newborns that have no speed or strength yet.  Which would still be bitch mode.

So bow hunting it is then.  Practicing with a sling bow at the river for fishing but I would like to bag a buck with a sling bow sometime soon.

Cool stuff man, colleague from work was hunting with some composite bows or something, like they went to forrest and could not be seen, had to feed themselves and such :) Only experience i do have is from some fairs trying out shooting from various bows and such, and one friend of mine is bowmaker, so i was testing them with him, and god, some of the wood is really very, very demanding in the terms of strength to pull it out... i was amazed how tired i got after like 20 shots from a bow that was about same length as i am tall  :shock:
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Wookimonsta on September 21, 2011, 01:05:30 pm
Yup.  Guns are ez mode hunting imo.  Or bitch mode, depending on how condensending you want to be about it.  Ideally we would get our kills with nothing more than a knife but sadly when it comes down to it:

1:  Even the fastest of us don't run very fast at all compared to even the most feeble of animals we might hunt (deer, elk, moose, bear, etc)
2:  Humans are fucking pathetic in the physical strength department compared to even the most feeble of animals we might hunt.  Unless we go after sickly newborns that have no speed or strength yet.  Which would still be bitch mode.

So bow hunting it is then.  Practicing with a sling bow at the river for fishing but I would like to bag a buck with a sling bow sometime soon.

the only truly manly way to hunt is with bare hands and teeth, maybe a small knife.
Anything else is for pussies who are afraid of bears (and also ezmode).
If you need to chase an animal you have failed, sneaking up on them is how you do it. Or you can chase them over a cliff and eat the splattered remains.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: gazda on September 21, 2011, 02:27:28 pm
1 just took 80% off me - dunno where it hit tho :(

if you dont know where it hit, you dont see it,  and if you dont see it and it took 80% then its clearly headshot

 :D
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 21, 2011, 04:55:17 pm
the only truly manly way to hunt is with bare hands and teeth, maybe a small knife.
Anything else is for pussies who are afraid of bears (and also ezmode).
If you need to chase an animal you have failed, sneaking up on them is how you do it. Or you can chase them over a cliff and eat the splattered remains.

That's basically what I just said in what you quoted, but thanks for repeating it anyways?   :wink:

Stealth is for bundle of stickss btw.  Real men announce their presence with a hearty roar while beating their chest.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 21, 2011, 07:02:31 pm
Apparently real men go hungry often and are less cunning and evolved then the so-called "bundle of stickss."
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 21, 2011, 07:22:03 pm
Being hungry builds character, thus making the real men even manlier day after day.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 21, 2011, 11:26:22 pm
Apparently real men go hungry often and are less cunning and evolved then the so-called "bundle of stickss."

Nah, they just cannibalize those bundle of stickss and cull the weak out of the herd.  And evolved is pretty lol Tears.  If anything the constant move towards more bitch, wussy, and bundle of sticks behavior and mindsets can be described as a de-evolution of man in every way.  If there is any kind of societal and technological collapse (as logically is bound to happen with overpopulation, food shortages and widespread capitalistic fail) your so called "evolved" bundle of stickss will die off quickly.

Granted the whole stealth comment was pure meh and lulz since we already acknowledged the frailty of the human species and thus the need to employ such bitch tactics while hunting (along with ranged weaponry sadly.  Would be the ultimate in badassery to show off the bear that you killed with nothing more than a field knife, but alas....) but the sentiment stands.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 21, 2011, 11:42:44 pm
Well, people used to hunt bears with spears y'know. You can still do that! And people have killed bears with knives. Hey, maybe it'd be risky as fuck but you're a real man aren't you so don't pussy out brah. Plus, if you're leet you could kill deer with knives.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Rumblood on September 22, 2011, 08:29:39 am
Well, people used to hunt bears with spears y'know. You can still do that! And people have killed bears with knives. Hey, maybe it'd be risky as fuck but you're a real man aren't you so don't pussy out brah. Plus, if you're leet you could kill deer with knives.

I kill deer by hurling pecans. I spear rabbits with cactus thorns.  :P
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Wookimonsta on September 22, 2011, 01:59:58 pm
i once killed a bear by punching it with my balls.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: kono yaro! on September 22, 2011, 08:29:10 pm
this thread derailed pretty fast
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 22, 2011, 08:49:42 pm
For the better, though.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 23, 2011, 08:13:58 am
Well, people used to hunt bears with spears y'know. You can still do that! And people have killed bears with knives. Hey, maybe it'd be risky as fuck but you're a real man aren't you so don't pussy out brah. Plus, if you're leet you could kill deer with knives.

You forgot to include the fact that this was coordinated GROUP hunting, not just 1-2 guys challenging a bear to a fight with a spear.  Sure if I felt like organizing some hunting PARTY to go after a bear with a spear that'd have a better chance for success, but one or two guys... Nah, I stand by the fact that individually humans are sub-part physical specimens of the animal kingdom, thus the necessity for the lame usage of ranged weaponry in hunting larger game.  Still within the realm of ranged weaponry there are still various tiers of gay which one can decide to avoid. 

Show me a man that says he killed a deer with nothing more than a hunting knife and I'll show you an intolerable liar.
IE: 
Hunting moose with a slingshot = badass (if completely impractical and ineffective.  More likely to get yourself gored by an angry moose than kill one barring some freaky perfect through the eye shot or something)

Hunting moose with a surface to surface guided missile = pretty damned gay
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 23, 2011, 08:57:49 am
Nah, people used to hunt bears alone with spears.

Here is one instance of such shown in a picture. The spear is pretty short, the ones used weren't usually as short as that.
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Or well, I suppose it'd be more accurate to say that the kill was made by one man often, but usually the hunting group was bigger.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: The_Angle on September 23, 2011, 09:06:52 am
This game wouldn't be all that exciting if it was just Two-handers trying to nerf themselves after eliminating all other classes ]:
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Gorath on September 23, 2011, 04:43:50 pm
Nah, people used to hunt bears alone with spears.

Here is one instance of such shown in a picture. The spear is pretty short, the ones used weren't usually as short as that.
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Or well, I suppose it'd be more accurate to say that the kill was made by one man often, but usually the hunting group was bigger.

People also used to fly through the air with red capes and magic hammers.  Here's one such instance shown in a picture:
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Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: Xant on September 24, 2011, 02:22:12 am
It's okay Gorath, you can admit you're too much of a pussy to kill a bear alone even though people used to do that a lot back in the day.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: JiblyjibjibJiblet on September 24, 2011, 03:14:10 am
Pfffffft we australians chase down and kick kangaroos.. sadly they kick back, but aslong as you get in the first running double fly kick to the head and dont miss, then your good for some kangaroo steaks on the barby.
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: kono yaro! on September 24, 2011, 11:54:39 pm
archery was nerfed?
Title: Re: Archery Nerfed Again 9th Time
Post by: OttomanSniper on September 25, 2011, 12:40:14 am
yea kono nerfed again. 2 nerf major patch, 1 buff minor patch... i know this tactic.

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