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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Reddy on September 17, 2011, 02:24:31 pm

Title: 2h help
Post by: Reddy on September 17, 2011, 02:24:31 pm

Since the recent cavalry nerf I want to change to 2hander once I retire. I just want to ask on some help about 2handers, like what weapons I should use (which one I should loom also), equipment I should wear like armour or some good builds which I could use. How much PS would be enough aswell.

Thanks.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Rendar1970 on September 17, 2011, 02:52:36 pm

More STR than AGI
Tons of PS and IF.
Plate and any Greatsword.

Then its just a matter of lolstabbing or overhead miss/turning your way to greatness.

This may sound like a troll post but its pretty accurate.  2H is by far one of the most effective and powerful classes, with probably the easiest "curve" to learn.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 03:12:28 pm

5 PS is effective, anything less isn't. 21-18 is a good starting build. Danish/German greatsword are the best. Oh, and don't go for plate. Go for armors between 14-19 weight.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Siiem on September 17, 2011, 04:18:01 pm

Quote from: Rendar1970 on September 17, 2011, 02:52:36 pm

More STR than AGI
Tons of PS and IF.
Plate and any Greatsword.

Then its just a matter of lolstabbing or overhead miss/turning your way to greatness.

This may sound like a troll post but its pretty accurate.  2H is by far one of the most effective and powerful classes, with probably the easiest "curve" to learn.

Discard everything this guy wrote, just a bunch of gibberish.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Memento_Mori on September 17, 2011, 04:25:06 pm

I would go 6 PS or higher, 5 is kinda weak unless you're using a pierce or blunt weapon.

Then again I don't mind being kinda on the slow side so it's definitely got a lot to do with preference & play style.


21/18
18/21
18/18 (extra skill points for something else)
21/15 (same as above)
24/15 (slower more tank build, still effective but you probably won't be winning any foot races.)
15/24 (use a blunt weapon or pierce, and with 8 athletics the shorter range & slower speed of the weapon will be less noticeable and easier to deal with, blunt with knockdown is especially dirty with a build like this. PS: you will win foot races but you drop pretty easy after a few hits.. IF they can hit you.)


The more STR and health you have the more staying and stopping power, the more AGI, the easier it is to pick and choose your fights. Faster players aren't usually forced into engaging except by their own terms.

I agree with Xant on weapons and armors, you don't want to be too weighed down by armor, especially if you're using a lower athletics build & the Danish/German can cover a wide variety of niches on the battle field. For a lower strength build, like 15 str or 18 str it's nice to have a blunt weapon to deal with tanks but the great sword's stabs work well too so it isn't 100% necessary.

Good luck hope my wall of text was slightly helpful.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 04:35:59 pm

Possible builds at 31 are also 18/24 and 24/18.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Mtemtko on September 17, 2011, 04:39:34 pm

What about 27/15?  :lol:

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Siiem on September 17, 2011, 04:39:46 pm

Quote from: Xant on September 17, 2011, 04:35:59 pm

Possible builds at 31 are also 18/24 and 24/18.

My personal favorite is 18/24, great versatility.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 04:41:47 pm

Quote from: Mtemtko on September 17, 2011, 04:39:34 pm

What about 27/15?  :lol:

IS

NOT

POSSIBLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSl_aDe4XvQ&feature=related

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Mtemtko on September 17, 2011, 04:50:08 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmb0F00YPE&feature=related

L31 27/15

1IF
9PS
5ath
5wm

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Reddy on September 17, 2011, 04:56:33 pm

Thanks guys.

What about the specific skills? What skills are most important and how many points in them? Like how many IF, WM, ATH?

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: karasu on September 17, 2011, 04:59:02 pm

It actually depends on your play style.

Either grab a build like those 24/18 or 18/24 with no IF and be a "glass canon" cause even a sneeze will take you down fast.

Or get medium to almost heavy gear (till 19 p.e.) and a build like 24/15 (i use this atm) which leaves you with enough skill points to get Iron Flesh (5), meaning not going down with 1 hit from a lancer and not dying so fast with 80% ranged servers, and more than enough athletics/wpf since ranged can't shoot jump anymore (hihi), with less chances to glance on the enemies with swings (cut damage lol) from the PS 8, which hurts a lot.

Cheers

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 04:59:05 pm

Always have maxed Athletics and PS. Apart from that, you want to have as much IF and WM as possible, but they're not that important.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Reddy on September 17, 2011, 05:07:20 pm

Thanks very much.

So I've been playing around with some build ideas on the cRPG calculater and I wanted to run by this build with you guys, to see what you think of it.

21 STR
18 AGI

4 IF
7 PS
6 ATH
6 WM

2-Hander: about 152

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Laufknoten on September 17, 2011, 05:16:19 pm

* Strength: 27     * Agility: 12     * Hit points: 74     * Skills to attributes: 8     * Ironflesh: 6     * Power Strike: 9     * Shield: 0     * Athletics: 4     * Riding: 0     * Horse Archery: 0     * Power Draw: 0     * Power Throw: 0     * Weapon Master: 4     * One Handed: 1     * Two Handed: 138     * Polearm: 1     * Archery: 1     * Crossbow: 1     * Throwing: 1

I think this build would work quite well for battle.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Mtemtko on September 17, 2011, 05:18:06 pm

You think, enough said.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Xant on September 17, 2011, 05:22:20 pm

Quote from: Reddy on September 17, 2011, 05:07:20 pm

Thanks very much.

So I've been playing around with some build ideas on the cRPG calculater and I wanted to run by this build with you guys, to see what you think of it.

21 STR
18 AGI

4 IF
7 PS
6 ATH
6 WM

2-Hander: about 152

That's a very good build, you should go with it.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Laufknoten on September 17, 2011, 05:33:35 pm

Quote from: Mtemtko on September 17, 2011, 05:18:06 pm

You think, enough said.

I tried it, did well. Enough said.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: SixThumbs on September 17, 2011, 05:44:01 pm

I used 24/15 to excellent effect on my last gen. Really if you have up to average abilities at dodging/blocking and let a few hits slip through your best bet is more strength and iron flesh for the hit point buffer. I should've even pulled 30/9 because I only had 3 athletics with that build but I used a horse on occasion.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Raki on September 17, 2011, 08:32:32 pm

Well...apart from the builds that were already posted...This one is quite fun, but it might not be extremely useful in siege battles...

Level 30
Strength 9
Agility 33

PS: 3
Ath: 11
WM: 3
2h wpf: 130

I've tried this as a skip-the-fun alt, and it's a lot of fun. You can actually take down pretty much everyone after a while, although it takes a long time to kill a heavily armored player. Archers and the like still go down in 2-3-ish hits with a Katana.
In siege battles, your movement is usually more limited and you're likely to get rushed at by a lot of people, so I would suggest against going there. (on the up-side, you're almost as fast as a cavalry player :D)

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: a_bear_irl on September 17, 2011, 09:13:40 pm

27/12

9 if
9 ps
4 ath
1 wm

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Thucydides on September 17, 2011, 10:22:59 pm

Quote from: a_bear_irl on September 17, 2011, 09:13:40 pm

27/12

9 if
9 ps
4 ath
1 wm

change that wm to 1 shield

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Vodner on September 18, 2011, 12:34:32 am

Quote from: Reddy on September 17, 2011, 05:07:20 pm

Thanks very much.

So I've been playing around with some build ideas on the cRPG calculater and I wanted to run by this build with you guys, to see what you think of it.

21 STR
18 AGI

4 IF
7 PS
6 ATH
6 WM

2-Hander: about 152

I've never found WM to be that useful for single-weapon builds. I've played with 160 WPF, and I've played with 111. I haven't noticed a difference.

Personally I would put 3 of those WM points into IF, and 1 or more into shield.

That's just my opinion though. Somebody else may feel differently.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: Leshma on September 18, 2011, 12:47:08 am

I'm 2H player and I need help, some guidance how to attack and not be blocked 90% of time on duel server.

Title: Re: 2h help
Post by: a_bear_irl on September 18, 2011, 08:26:00 am

Quote from: Thucydides on September 17, 2011, 10:22:59 pm

change that wm to 1 shield

at some point i had a regular 2h build with 1 shield skill and it got me killed more often than it saved me from arrows, the shield blocks your view and slows you down