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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: MrShovelFace on September 15, 2011, 10:06:03 pm

Title: Archers press X for indirect fire WITH A POLL BECAUSE DEMOCRACY = GAME BALANCE
Post by: MrShovelFace on September 15, 2011, 10:06:03 pm
The ability for archers to traject their arrows over large barriers is sorely missing. Bows should have an alternative fire mode that reduces projectile speed in order the increase arrow drop

While indirect fire is next to useless in battle mode it is most certainly useful in strategus battles
Armys with lots of archers and lots of arrows could find this tactic insanely useful for attacking those pesky villagers hiding behind buildings. Indirect fire would also bring forth a whole new aspect of the game for archers. Rather than guesstimating the drop for arrows archers would have to calculate what distance requires what angle.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Bjord on September 15, 2011, 10:09:43 pm
This can be the beginning of some epic archer mass volleys.

+1!

And to add to your suggestion:

3 modes as you toggle the indirect firing mode. Long / Medium / Short. Simple and easy.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Teeth on September 15, 2011, 10:15:40 pm
Although I don't have any faith that we're going to have proper archer volleys in cRPG, the option would be nice. Sure add this, while we're at it, add fire arrows now that WSE seems to be picking up steam.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Overdriven on September 15, 2011, 10:41:03 pm
Hells yes...this would be fantastic for strat
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Phew on September 16, 2011, 12:32:08 am
Maybe just have early releases lose speed as well as accuracy? Then you wouldn't have to mess with weapon modes or anything, just release the shot earlier in the draw for reduced velocity. Like how it works in real life.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Jarlek on September 16, 2011, 12:35:52 am
Awesome :D
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: The_Angle on September 16, 2011, 07:20:17 pm
This would be epic.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: HarunYahya on September 16, 2011, 09:18:16 pm
Really good idea indeed .
It would add more epic moments to battle.
-It'll also add QQ threads like "OMG Now my old friendchers can shoot without even seeing me !!!"- but anyway it'll be good methinks.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Duke on September 16, 2011, 10:23:26 pm
I don't play Strategus, so I don't know how useful this would be for the rest of us, but I see no reason for this to not exist.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Anti on September 16, 2011, 10:25:16 pm
I can just imagine Fallen doing this shit in pubs for massive lulz and TK.


100000x times yes.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 16, 2011, 10:36:39 pm
I can just imagine Fallen doing this shit in pubs for massive lulz and TK.


100000x times yes.

We already have in Strat, one of our first village fights we found the place on the map where if you aimed at a specific chimney (some snowy map) and fired straight up, the dozen and a half archers could indirect the spawn, very impressive when we finally walked into the village and saw all the arrows pointing straight down like some messed up flowerbed.

This feature making indirect easier though, that would be nice.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Centurion on September 16, 2011, 10:42:51 pm
We already have in Strat, one of our first village fights we found the place on the map where if you aimed at a specific chimney (some snowy map) and fired straight up, the dozen and a half archers could indirect the spawn, very impressive when we finally walked into the village and saw all the arrows pointing straight down like some messed up flowerbed.

This feature making indirect easier though, that would be nice.
yea i was defending that village battle lol it was epic... it looked like it was the persians blocking out the sun in 300 lol i got hit so much during those volleys

+1 to the idea also shovel
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Memento_Mori on September 17, 2011, 05:51:19 am
This would be very neat to see.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: MrShovelFace on September 17, 2011, 08:55:00 am
We already have in Strat, one of our first village fights we found the place on the map where if you aimed at a specific chimney (some snowy map) and fired straight up, the dozen and a half archers could indirect the spawn, very impressive when we finally walked into the village and saw all the arrows pointing straight down like some messed up flowerbed.

This feature making indirect easier though, that would be nice.

I got the idea from the comical peasant wars between brd and choas where brd on the opposite side of a building were killing people by throwing rocks up at a 85 degree angle and getting head shots lol

cannerys like lulz retrn fires
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: HarunYahya on September 22, 2011, 02:23:12 am
This nice suggestion deserves a bump in the name of the poster above.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Adamar on September 22, 2011, 02:47:18 am
Meh, I was thinking that the x function could be used to change arrow types instead.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Overdriven on September 22, 2011, 02:48:32 am
That would also be cool. But no idea if possible.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Bjord on September 22, 2011, 04:17:44 pm
Meh, I was thinking that the x function could be used to change arrow types instead.

Like whistling arrows for example? For alerting allies etc.

But that could be pretty annoying since every archer would do it constantly, or if you only gave every archer one whistling arrow. Alternatively only to archers who are lvl 31.

Whichever the case, I think I prefer an indirect firing mode over toggled arrow types.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Jarlek on September 22, 2011, 04:35:59 pm
Like whistling arrows for example? For alerting allies etc.

But that could be pretty annoying since every archer would do it constantly, or if you only gave every archer one whistling arrow. Alternatively only to archers who are lvl 31.

Whichever the case, I think I prefer an indirect firing mode over toggled arrow types.
I think he means different types of arrows, like Arrow,Barbed Arrow, Tatar Arrow and Bodkin Arrow.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Arrowblood on September 22, 2011, 04:48:15 pm
I want arrowclouds like at agincourt.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Bobthehero on September 22, 2011, 04:49:55 pm
So basically, arrow everywhere killing everything? I want plate that's arrow proof, you can kill the unarmored peasants.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Spawny on September 22, 2011, 05:41:16 pm
Epic idea. Completely support it, eventhough I hate archers.

Would make groups of archers quite usefull in strat and siege games.

I used to curve throwing weapons over teammates into the enemy line and it would make sense if archers could do the same.

I think that due to the game mechanics, the arrows will do minimum damage on impact anyway.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: Dexxtaa on September 22, 2011, 07:43:37 pm
YESSSSS.

+1 xinfinity

This idea has been at the back of my mind for ages every time I play on my dirty archer alt watch other archers very closely. I'd love this for archers, since opening the round with a horizontal-ish arrow round has always struck me with a bit of dissonance.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: MrShovelFace on September 27, 2011, 12:20:18 am
shameless self bump
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on September 27, 2011, 05:04:58 am
+1 at the moment the Yumi is the only thing you can really use for indirect and its a bit of a mission.

All we need now is a flaming arrow so you can track it a bit better and light up the night.

Re do this thread with a poll.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire WITH A POLL BECAUSE DEMOCRACY = GAME BALANCE
Post by: Renten on September 27, 2011, 06:42:19 pm
Only if you can block high enough with a shield to prevent impossible to avoid head-shots while blocking.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire WITH A POLL BECAUSE DEMOCRACY = GAME BALANCE
Post by: Soldier_of_God on September 27, 2011, 08:41:26 pm
i dont see how this can possibly be a negative thing. the only thing i have to add is that less power would be used launching an arrow at closer range, therefore short and medium ranged shots should have damage deduction in the ballpark of -2 damage per range ajustment, with long range being the same.

you also must realize that arrows launched high in the air are alot less accurate than arrows fired strait because they change trajectory and have alot more air time for wind deviation... which does not exist, but either way, it will be like trying to hit something half way across the map. this would be excellent, however, for large crowds.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire WITH A POLL BECAUSE DEMOCRACY = GAME BALANCE
Post by: Dexxtaa on September 28, 2011, 02:48:47 pm
Bump for buttocks
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire WITH A POLL BECAUSE DEMOCRACY = GAME BALANCE
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 28, 2011, 05:22:24 pm
In my experience, an indirect pointing up with 156 wpf and a mw rus will produce a shot pattern after 30 arrows of about 4 meters deep and 5 meters across. Shave off a meter to find the closely clustered majority not counting straglers.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire WITH A POLL BECAUSE DEMOCRACY = GAME BALANCE
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 02, 2011, 09:07:26 am
Why X? X is my kick button. or maybe add an option to change the key for it.
Title: Re: Archers press X for indirect fire WITH A POLL BECAUSE DEMOCRACY = GAME BALANCE
Post by: Jarlek on October 02, 2011, 01:01:04 pm
Why X? X is my kick button. or maybe add an option to change the key for it.
Uhmmm. X is already used for changing weapon mode (from throwing to melee or from 2h to halfswording) so it would just be whatever you have changed the "change fire mode" button to.