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Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: Christo on January 26, 2011, 10:39:12 pm
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Hey guys, I'm really interested, is here anyone who's in a reenactment group, or something?
I know the method is not only straight blocks and spam IRL, that's why I'm interested.
I'll look around, but I don't think I have a medieval reenactment group where I live.
Me and my friend are interested in melee fighting, I'm thinking about making, or buying wooden weapons, for practicing the basics.
Can you help me out, where should I look for a wooden pole that's about as tall as me? 170-180 cm.
Simple broom etc handles are way too short for this. My friend wants to craft a wooden two-handed sword, so that he can spam me. :)
I could use some suggestions, thanks for reading. :wink:
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If you live in the country it's easy. If you live in the city, drive to the country. Then find some trees. Best ones are Ash or Willow trees (google images to see what they look like). Willow seasons well and is nice and flexible, so it won't snap. And ash is really strong. Get a big knife or a saw, find some saplings or some branches from a bigger tree, make sure they're reasonably straight, then cut them. For willow it's ok to use the dead branches as long as they aren't too dead because willow seasons well. You can cut off any smaller branches that come off the bit you want.
If you look for a bit you'll find some appropriate branches - both those species of tree tend to have long straight branches that grow up from the central roots in clusters. If you can find copsed trees (deliberately grown for wood) and can sneak onto private property, those trees are the best because they're cut regularly and forced to grow straight and up.
For willow you can also shave the bark and you get a bright white stick. Also, willow doesn't splinter because it's fibrous.
Alternatively you can use bamboo. Most farmers use it as splints for fruit trees because it's cheap. Find an orchard and sneak in, then steal the bamboo. There will be tonnes of the stuff. They use stems about 1-3 cm thick and between 1 and 2 meters high or so.
So if you're ok with mutilating trees and trespassing, that's what to do. I've never used such sticks for fighting, but they have other uses that I'd imagine are the same things that would make them perfect for fighting with.
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If you can find copsed trees (deliberately grown for wood) and can sneak onto private property, those trees are the best because they're cut regularly and forced to grow straight and up.
Find an orchard and sneak in, then steal the bamboo.
That's a great way to get shot (and justifiably so). How about instead of sneaking onto someone's property and stealing from them, you buy the frigging wood? It'll cost a lot less than if you get caught; you'll likely either be paying medical bills, paying off your fine (or bond money) or won't need to worry about ever paying for anything again. I know a lot of people are pussies about protecting their properties nowadays (especially here in Australia and in the UK), but I've yet to meet a farmer that doesn't have some means of getting people off their property one way or another.
As for the OPs question: if you're going to make it, ensure the wood you buy is straight and has a straight grain and no knots. Cutting off branches from a random tree in someone's yard will likely get you a warped stave with knots and run outs. Knots, warping and run out is fine if you're making a cabinet/table/other load bearing item, but if you plan on making a relatively thin, long staff for fighting with, you really don't want any weak points. A knot of any reasonable size will cause the staff to fracture around it after a few decently strong blows.
Alternatively, you can just buy a staff for ~$20. Depending on your method for making staves out of bought wood, this can likely be a lot cheaper (and obviously involves less effort).
Some sites:
http://www.karatedepot.com/bo_staff.html
http://www.swordsofhonor.com/fightingsticks.html
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I guess there is a risk of being shot, but its a very minor one :)
Why buy wood when you can get it for free? And if you can't sneak into an orchard or some private woods to steal a stick, then you deserve the bullet for your poor ninja skills. Though I wouldn't say that in any situation being shot is justifiable, especially if you just want a stick. Seems a little bit disproportionate.
And don't buy staffs from the internet:
1) It's a little bit weird
2) You'll never be a true staffmaster unless you select and cut your own staff with your own two hands!
3) You're paying someone money for a stick...
4) (edit) Also, think what the package will look like when it arrives. How are you going to explain that to your relatives/flatmates/partner? I mean, you're going to have to tell them that you paid money for a bit of wood...
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Though I wouldn't say that in any situation being shot is justifiable, especially if you just want a stick. Seems a little bit disproportionate.
The main issue is the sneaking onto someone's property bit. The owner can't know your intentions; you could be there for much more sinister purposes. It's not their burden to read your mind - it's your burden to not be there in the first place. As for whether it's ever justifiable, I'll pass on the self defense debate for now. I don't want to derail the thread further.
I know you might be (sort of) joking, but I just thought I'd post in case anyone got the idea to do this. Hopefully it will help people consider the other side of the situation (when they're wondering "why is that guy shooting at me!?").
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I'm quite lucky, I'm living outside of my town, there is a forest nearby, trees in the backyard, but the backyard trees aren't really useful.
My friend is making the sword for himself, I think he already has a plan for it, good for him.
I'm dumb when it comes to types of wood, I can't really tell what is what. I can only tell that they're trees, lol.
Also I would like to craft a bow, but that would be really difficult for me, I have no experience with woodworking, but I'm interested, and willing to learn.
But finding a 180cm straight branch is a bit difficult. Maybe I'll need some planks, or I don't know.
@Bane: I totally agree with you man.
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Come on steal it.. It's worth the excitement! Me and my friends used to dress up in cameo gear, drive around without headlights in the forest and try to cap canada goose with long knives once.. lol. We didn't manage to cap anyone though..
Back in the day when we used to get home from school and watch "Navy SEALs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_SEALs_(film))" again and again lol..
(live in Norway though, so people don't shoot after each other too often. Might be different in US and Australia. Dunno about UK, France or Germany.)
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Well.. I could walk into the forest here, and if I find something useful, I can chop it, I'm very stealthy and careful all the time.
But the sight of a guy walking into the forest with a big axe, then walking back with a big ass stick would be risky, aye? :)
I'm trying to indentify what trees I have around here by the way.. hold on. :)
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I'm dumb when it comes to types of wood, I can't really tell what is what. I can only tell that they're trees, lol.
Well, one of the difficulties is variations in species from one country to another, and from climates and regions. There are many different species of Willow tree, and many variations on how they can look depending on where they grow. There are guides for telling what kind of tree it is - though some trees are only easily recognisable by the leaves, so it's tough in winter. Ash has a distinctive bark though. Just google trees for your country or region. If not just keep hacking at trees until one works :)
Also I would like to craft a bow, but that would be really difficult for me, I have no experience with woodworking, but I'm interested, and willing to learn.
For a bow I would guess you would need a soft wood, one that's really flexible - it'd need to start dead straight and then you bend it to add the string. If you make it out of something like oak, it'd be impossible to draw and would snap even if you could. Willow might work ok. I read somewhere that longbows were made out of yew, but I would guess that you would need to carve up the whole tree cos the branches don't grow in a nice straight way. I'd imagine you could make a bow just with a straight bit of willow, put notches in it and add some string. But it wouldn't be very powerful and probably not too accurate. And you'd have to figure out what string to use.
I think learning to make a bow would take a lot of time :)
But finding a 180cm straight branch is a bit difficult. Maybe I'll need some planks, or I don't know.
This is where stealing from copsed woods is good. The trees are all young and the farmers get them to grow up straight in clusters so they make easier to use wood - perfect for what you want. In a wild forest it's going to be harder to find a perfect branch. Look for young trees.
And planks are ok for making a sword I would guess, but remember that most of the planks you'd be able to find will be crappy MDF or building material, not proper wood. Actual timber is quite pricey - they only use it in stuff like expensive floorboards or posh furniture. And for a bow it'd be absolutely useless.
And @Mattressi, yeah it's true that sneaking onto property is illegal, but the way I see it it doesn't really count when their property is big enough to have an orchard in it :)
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Hmm. Thanks for the info guys, I'll definitely scout the forest, and my backyard again.
Also I've gathered info about the staff, it should be 180 cm long, and 2-3 cm thick. I can solve the thickness problem, just need something straight.
Problem is that maybe I'll have to hide my axe, so the few people living near won't ask questions.
Maybe I'll bring a smaller one, and hide it in my backpack. :wink:
Also thanks for the bow tips, I'll try it out one day, when I'll be experienced enough.
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Also I would like to craft a bow, but that would be really difficult for me, I have no experience with woodworking, but I'm interested, and willing to learn.
This site is what I used the first time I built a bow: http://poorfolkbows.com/oak.htm
It teaches a bit about what wood to look for, how to make the bow with minimal tools and all the basics of tillering (making the bow so that it draws correctly). It's reasonably straight forward. Best of all, it can be pretty much substituted for most other types of bow building wood (I had to use iron bark because getting US wood in Australia which is 6 ft long is pretty damn hard) and only requires a plank of the wood to be bought. If you don't like the look of the fiberglass backing (I don't), just use 100% linen or silk instead. Works just as well.
There's more complicated designs, but ultimately a board bow (flat bow to others) is one of the most efficient designs (in terms of power, not material - the English Longbow was probably the most efficient material-wise), so you don't need to make anything more difficult unless you want to be period accurate or you want to have a bow that doesn't look hideous.
What country do you live in? It'd be easier to work out what woods you could use then.
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I live in Hungary.
This site is very informative, thanks for sharing it! *bookmark'd*
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I live in Hungary.
Hmm, all I know is that the traditional Hungarian bow was primarily made of Ash wood. I'm assuming that means Hungary has some kind of Ash tree suitable for bow making. Often there's many different trees of the same name but have very different material properties (for example, Red Oak and White Oak are good for making bows, but over here we only have a type of Oak called Tasmanian Oak which is absolute crap!). Otherwise you can always import some Osage Orange from the UK (or Yew if you've got the money).
This applies to making a staff as well; both bows and staves need wood that can handle high tensile and compressive stresses and are not brittle (meaning they won't snap when you hit something or draw it back). I haven't made a staff before though, so it might be a little more or less lenient about the type of wood that can be used to make it.
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It's so much different in real life compared to this video game. Everything is pretty much one shot, even with a wooden weapon, if you swing properly it's one hit knock out/broken bones. Oh, and you can swing so much faster (spam) in real life than you can in this game, especially with a staff, you can easily (with no prior experience) connect multiple (4+) times per second.
My only experience are fights (not full force of course) that I have had with friends using wooden sticks etc (live in Alaska, not much else to do).
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Come on steal it.. It's worth the excitement! Me and my friends used to dress up in cameo gear, drive around without headlights in the forest and try to cap canada goose with long knives once.. lol. We didn't manage to cap anyone though..
Back in the day when we used to get home from school and watch "Navy SEALs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_SEALs_(film))" again and again lol..
(live in Norway though, so people don't shoot after each other too often. Might be different in US and Australia. Dunno about UK, France or Germany.)
hmm come to my property...then ull get shot after :D
But wtf, who the hell are hitting each other with sticks?
In Norway we got Guns...U know..."Magic" POWDER, as u might have heard!
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hmm come to my property...then ull get shot after :D
But wtf, who the hell are hitting each other with sticks?
In Norway we got Guns...U know..."Magic" POWDER, as u might have heard!
And then you would spend the rest of your life in jail, like that guy in Canada who shot the three dudes who burned down his house and the rest of his property.
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Here's a map for local Dagorhir chapters. It's organized battles with padded sticks representing weapons. Its got rules as to how many hits it takes to "break" a shield (ie after 2 swings from a 2h mace you gotta drop it or something like that).
I would actually expect to hear that a few M&B players are into it.
http://www.dagorhir.com/chapters/index.htm#southwest (http://www.dagorhir.com/chapters/index.htm#southwest)
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hmm come to my property...then ull get shot after :D
But wtf, who the hell are hitting each other with sticks?
In Norway we got Guns...U know..."Magic" POWDER, as u might have heard!
Haha.. jævla trønderfaen!
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And then you would spend the rest of your life in jail, like that guy in Canada who shot the three dudes who burned down his house and the rest of his property.
Because Canadian law = every other countries' laws right? Over here (again, Australia) it's essentially illegal to defend yourself. Should you try it with a gun, you automatically get 10 (or maybe 15, I forget) years added to your sentence. From what I've heard of Canada, the laws are similar to Aus. However, in many other, more reasonable, countries you can defend yourself and your property (and you aren't required to walk up to the people who broke into your land and verify that they are, indeed, meaning to harm you as they open fire at or stab/beat you). I thought for sure an Alaskan would understand this.
Edit: dammit, I let myself be trolled by Balton and I partook in the derailment of this thread when I said I wouldn't :(
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Edit: dammit, I let myself be trolled by Balton and I partook in the derailment of this thread when I said I wouldn't :(
Yeah, you're a jerk. Dagorhir is pretty fun stuff, even just to watch. Check out the website and make a really cool mind blowing insightful comment about it to atone :P
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I cannot take seriously any organization using foam weapons. Personally I do my sparring with bamboo japanese-style sparring sticks. Don't really know what they're called, but the proportions are correct for a longsword and I try to use ARMA videos or fighting manuals for references. Something about a group that does full force with steel longswords while wearing t-shirts makes me think they're professionals who know what they're talking about. After all, if they didn't they'd all be missing ears.
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I cannot take seriously any organization using foam weapons. Personally I do my sparring with bamboo japanese-style sparring sticks. Don't really know what they're called, but the proportions are correct for a longsword and I try to use ARMA videos or fighting manuals for references. Something about a group that does full force with steel longswords while wearing t-shirts makes me think they're professionals who know what they're talking about. After all, if they didn't they'd all be missing ears.
Nerf has a nice selection of foam swords,axes,maces,throwing axes, ect ect I wish I were a kid again :( All i had were crappy plastic swords that broke every week meh
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I made a halberd with a broom handle, cardboard and duct tape. Worked pretty well when I was ten, defending my hay-bale castle.
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What you want it the SCA. Society for Creative Anachronism. http://www.sca.org/ It is world wide. They use rattan (a bamboo like wood) for weapons. There is a minimal amount of armor that is required as well as a training program that you have to pass in order to fight in any tournaments.
I it as close as you can get without killing anyone or being killed. I had my shoulder knocked down to my chest when my shoulder armor failed (my fault for not stopping combat). Be safe and serious or you'll get hurt.
http://switch.sjsu.edu/v24/image/stories/SCA_arab-800.jpg
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For a bow, search a hazel nut bush, should be pretty common in hungary (at least they are in Austria). They are pretty flexible and wont break under normal circumstances.
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Because Canadian law = every other countries' laws right? Over here (again, Australia) it's essentially illegal to defend yourself. Should you try it with a gun, you automatically get 10 (or maybe 15, I forget) years added to your sentence. From what I've heard of Canada, the laws are similar to Aus. However, in many other, more reasonable, countries you can defend yourself and your property (and you aren't required to walk up to the people who broke into your land and verify that they are, indeed, meaning to harm you as they open fire at or stab/beat you). I thought for sure an Alaskan would understand this.
Edit: dammit, I let myself be trolled by Balton and I partook in the derailment of this thread when I said I wouldn't :(
Most countries actually have some law stating you can't defend yourself to full capability, or something along those lines, the US (and Alaska) are no exception to such laws.
In the US you get one hit for every hit they land on you as a means of self-defense, but even then, if you hit too hard you get sued for "using unreasonable force in self defense".
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Most countries actually have some law stating you can't defend yourself to full capability, or something along those lines, the US (and Alaska) are no exception to such laws.
In the US you get one hit for every hit they land on you as a means of self-defense, but even then, if you hit too hard you get sued for "using unreasonable force in self defense".
Well thats just plain wrong. One hit for one hit? Anyone can file a suit in the U.S, they just need the 350 or so dollars to file the paperwork. Most of them, do not have a case.
Self-defense allows a person to use reasonable force in his or her own defense or the defense of others. You can use deadly force if you are in reasonable fear of serious injury or death.
These laws slightly vary state to state, but they do a very good job of protecting your rights in this case.
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Most countries actually have some law stating you can't defend yourself to full capability, or something along those lines, the US (and Alaska) are no exception to such laws.
In the US you get one hit for every hit they land on you as a means of self-defense, but even then, if you hit too hard you get sued for "using unreasonable force in self defense".
Wow. Take a read through this: http://legalselfdefense.blogspot.com/2008/08/alaska.html
I have no idea where you got your strange concept of the law from, but it is completely wrong. You are justified in defending yourself in a non-lethal manner in a common brawl (so long as you didn't start it) without a limit on the number of 'hits'. You are justified in the use of lethal force if you "reasonably believe the use of deadly force is necessary for self defense against death, serious physical injury, kidnapping, sexual assault in the first degree, sexual assault in the second degree, or robbery in any degree." Also you have no duty to retreat if it is on your property. That is Alaska state law.
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In my state you can shoot a guy on your porch with an AK. I think you can get into trouble if you keep shooting after they've started running away though.
Anyhow I've seen SCA fights; no thank you.
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For a bow, search a hazel nut bush, should be pretty common in hungary (at least they are in Austria). They are pretty flexible and wont break under normal circumstances.
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Thanks for the tip, and the pictures are indeed useful to me. :wink:
I'll go to the woods tomorrow, wish me luck. :wink:
Edit: Good news, I found a somewhat straight stick, it's as tall as me, about 2-3 cm thick, I'll cut the bark off, make it smooth looking, and I think I've got my practice staff. :)
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There are plenty of reeancting groups in Hungary. I don't know much about the medieval groups, but you could try Norde Gard, Kard Rendje, DAKLE, Mare Temporis, etc. Just google them.
Of course, since it's Hungary, there are dozens, maybe hundreds of archer/horse archer groups. I still consider Kassai the best of them. If you are interested in that sort of thing, look him up.
And then there's the classical era. Legio Brigetio, Collegium Gladiatorum, Familia Gladiatoria, and so on. And, of course, us (http://szurkefalka.hu/).
If you're feeling wimpy, you could go LARPing, but that's kid stuff in my eyes. The basic concept would be fine, but Hungarian LARP sucks balls. I don't know how anyone over 18 can still enjoy that.
All in all, you should have quite a few opportunities to punch people in the face with a stick.
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Well,
what you could try is to find a weapon based martial art of your liking,
I do escrima (= kali/arnis), and I learn to fight with ±70 cm sticks, dual and single knifes and fists. Some systems also use two handed weapons / spears
You could with some knowledge of this sport have some fun fights with your friend(s) (I speak out of experience), you can make as well very easily wooden shields and develop your own fighting style based upon what you learned
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Finished the "staff", unfortunately, it became a bit shorter, but it's nice, quite straight, and light. cool thingy. It's quite primitive though.
@ Ishar: I'll look for these groups you've mentioned. Thanks.
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Christo, screenshot or it never happened.
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Christo, screenshot or it never happened.
well, it's basicly an about 150cm long stick without bark (there are some knots though), part of it's damaged, it was a rush work, so it's nothing special. It's crap. :)
Dunno how to take an IRL screenshot right now, my phone is broke, and I have no camera.
Well, just for you Thomek, I took a pic with my broken phone (don't diss image quality, the phone screen isn't working atm)
http://img843.imageshack.us/i/20600101376.jpg/ (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/20600101376.jpg/)
As you can see, it's not a master's work, but it'll be okay for me for now.
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yeh i'm doing renactment irl, there's a club where i live and my bro's doing a tournament with sponsors,
btw if you expect skill and no spam it's the wrong sport, it's full spam and teamplay, you use as much your fists as your weapon ^^
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as ishar already said, in magyar there are lot of medieval fighting schools, and they are good. now, soon will be spring and the season of medieval fairs and tournaments is going to be opened (here in CRO there will be one in 2 weeks). that's the good place to ask things you are interested in
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Some groups also offer sparring options at fairs, so that's another opportunity.
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oh, and one more thing... irl 1vs1 is about 3 or 4 swings/thrusts. one thing is "show fight" for people on fairs, but another is bohur. usually you circle one around other changing stances, closing and going from opponent, waiting for his mistake or opening - and after that everything is over in a few seconds.
in group fights there are few finesses. everything is about brute strength, not getting separated and teamwork
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I use a big fuckin shield. With those, even a duel can be quite long and intense.
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I use a big fuckin shield. With those, even a duel can be quite long and intense.
:lol: one guy lost two front teeth to a shield :lol: few times i used my winter cloak and it was win! i'm skinny and small and when i used rather short sword + cloak against war longswords opponents got too cocky. well, neither did i believed that cloak is SO good for defence (nb i didn't ever train or research deeply into using cloak defensively), but it CAN turn aside blows and thrusts, entangle a sword and, above all, annoy the enemy. i am known as annoying fighter with all my jumping and dancing around always almost in the reach and beating their fingers holding sword :twisted:
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:lol: one guy lost two front teeth to a shield :lol: few times i used my winter cloak and it was win! i'm skinny and small and when i used rather short sword + cloak against war longswords opponents got too cocky. well, neither did i believed that cloak is SO good for defence (nb i didn't ever train or research deeply into using cloak defensively), but it CAN turn aside blows and thrusts, entangle a sword and, above all, annoy the enemy. i am known as annoying fighter with all my jumping and dancing around always almost in the reach and beating their fingers holding sword :twisted:
I would have thought staying out of reach doesn't work IRL, considering they can just charge you, especially if they have a shield. Do you guys swing as hard as you can? And what material are weapons generally made out of?
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I use a dull steel shortsword with my shield, and yes, range means a lot. If your attack doesn't hit anything, you are quite open to a counter.
It's more or less the same with wooden swords though - you are a bit faster with a light weapon, but so is your opponent.
Oh, and I know a guy too who lost teeth in combat with a shield. It was obviously his fault, that kind of thing should not happen if you know what you are doing, even with full contact duels. An opponent's shield or weapon may hit you hard, but it was his own shield. Come on, that's embarrassing!
This kind of thing is not as dangerous as it looks. In seven years, I've seen the following injuries:
-A fool hit his own foot with a thrown spear (don't ask, it's pathetic)
-One reckless teammate of mine got a sword trust in his leg a bit (bled a little, not serious)
-In a light contact wooden sword duel, one of the combatants hit the other in the face with quite a force by accident - now, that looked ugly.
-I couldn't block a thrown spear once, it went over my head, and ALMOST hit someone in the audience. Thank God it didn't. The throw was way high, I couldn't possibly reach it, so wasn't my fault, but still, could have been serious.
-The aforementioned teeth.
-One of our members dislocated shoulder a few times in unarmed combat. Dunno why, he is quite a strong fellow, somehow his right shoulder is his weakness.
-Last year, one guy hit my finger with a dull metal sword, that hurt for a few days, and the scar still looks badass.
-Small cuts and bruises, barely worth mentioning.
I think that's not so much, though I've met people with far worse record. Still, I think a skater would see way more injuries in seven years. And that's something, considering he is rolling around on a board, and we are bashing each other with metal swords.
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we have rules about not fighting with steel without full "harness" (helmets with visors, shoulderpads, arm armour, gauntlets, plate or coat of plates for torso, leg protection). with wood we only practice (however there are some "illegal" fights without full force and just with hard leather gloves). there are some minor cuts and bruises, broken skin... few times we had to stitch some cuts, because they were not following the rules of protection.
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I would have thought staying out of reach doesn't work IRL, considering they can just charge you, especially if they have a shield. Do you guys swing as hard as you can? And what material are weapons generally made out of?
if he charges foolishly, dodge his blow, or deflect his blow, step aside and behind him and "kill" him. you must always have in mind that your swing might not hit.
when we have "free fight" we swing, kick and hit as hard as we can, because of speed. but we all can stop our weapon 1 cm before hit. it is very important if something goes wrong. if you aren't 100% in control of your weapon, you're not allowed to fight
@ishar
that thing with teeth... did that, perchance, happen in ibenik?
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we have rules about not fighting with steel without full "harness" (helmets with visors, shoulderpads, arm armour, gauntlets, plate or coat of plates for torso, leg protection). with wood we only practice (however there are some "illegal" fights without full force and just with hard leather gloves). there are some minor cuts and bruises, broken skin... few times we had to stitch some cuts, because they were not following the rules of protection.
Reminds me of my days in reenactment [sp], when I developed deep affection for scale armours, but we used duralumin weaponry and, sometimes, "composite epoxy material" swords and sabers for non-armoured fights. Still got few scars on limbs, though.
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@ishar
that thing with teeth... did that, perchance, happen in ibenik?
Nah, it was in Budapest, during a practice fight, waaay back. 2004-2005 I think.
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And then you would spend the rest of your life in jail, like that guy in Canada who shot the three dudes who burned down his house and the rest of his property.
Norway is NOT in canada...Who said i would call the police, and who said i would shoot 3 dudes, i was talking about 1 dude :)
We dont have jails in Norway, its more like a Hotel, or thats what ive heard :D
JAVESST, trønderfaan :D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln94E9AGYTc
This is real longsword fighting.
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Lol at getting shotted for stealing a wooden stick
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My only experience are fights (not full force of course) that I have had with my imaginary friends using wooden sticks my mommy gave me for Christmas etc (I live in Alaska, not much else to donot much else to do besides cam-whore over the internet and have sword battles with my imaginary ninja friends. I hope next year my parents make enough money moose hunting to purchase me a real sword.
I fixed that for your bro.
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Most countries actually have some law stating you can't defend yourself to full capability, or something along those lines, the US (and Alaska) are no exception to such laws.
In the US you get one hit for every hit they land on you as a means of self-defense, but even then, if you hit too hard you get sued for "using unreasonable force in self defense".
Here in texas we have castle doctrine and it now applies to cars as well
That means I don't have to retreat from a robber armed or not I can defend my property with lethal force
Same goes for third parties, if I see a robber/rapist/ murderer doing his evil deed I am also allowed to intervene with my concealed firearm(licensed)
In addition even before those laws were passed texans had more self defense rights because anti cattle stealing laws allow you to shoot robbers at night who are stealing your property
Now of course everything has a lawyers spin so I would never advocate gunning down fleeing criminals but if someone is actively committing robbery/rape or attempted murder you're allowed to stop them with deadly force
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well that's texas. it's (in)famous of using guns
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I fixed that for your bro.
I wish I had some imaginary ninja friends, sounds like fun.
Here in texas we have castle doctrine and it now applies to cars as well
That means I don't have to retreat from a robber armed or not I can defend my property with lethal force
Same goes for third parties, if I see a robber/rapist/ murderer doing his evil deed I am also allowed to intervene with my concealed firearm(licensed)
In addition even before those laws were passed texans had more self defense rights because anti cattle stealing laws allow you to shoot robbers at night who are stealing your property
Now of course everything has a lawyers spin so I would never advocate gunning down fleeing criminals but if someone is actively committing robbery/rape or attempted murder you're allowed to stop them with deadly force
If only everything worked as it was intended to.
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I fixed that for your bro.
oh my god, +1
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I wish I had some imaginary ninja friends, sounds like fun.
I like that answer.
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