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this guy asks about unreachable archers solution.
on Pecores we have rule: no ladder - no roof.
if the ladder to a roof gets destroyed, people have to leave that roof.
We just need to remove the ladder permanently from battle servers and move on.
For archers being Immortal to 67% of the server is simply just retarded and plain stupid...
this guy asks about unreachable archers solution.
on Pecores we have rule: no ladder - no roof.
if the ladder to a roof gets destroyed, people have to leave that roof.
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The poll made by pavi ended up at 58-42, doesn't look like everyone wanna remove ladders, so im asking for other solutions, give me some or don't waste your time posting, poll will come soon.
Cheers
One easy solution may be to make "master of the field" start when the timer runs out OR when 80% of the people on either team are dead.Except that nobody likes master of the field.
One more idea, though this would require a code change, I'm sure:
* Once a ladder is placed, only the enemy team can destroy it
Which means you could potentially screw up and lock yourself into an alley, essentially creating your very own holding cell, but them's the risks. Any ladder you place to get up onto a rooftop cannot be destroyed by anyone on your team.
I have to say I rarely see pecores archers on roofs. And Pecores archers are seriously dangerous. I hate pecores because they can always hit me regardless of where I am on a map and at what speed/angle I'm riding. EU official archers are nubs in comparison to the archers that play on there.
Except that nobody likes master of the field.Why wouldn't they?
Don't remind me about Pecores archers, I had to deal with them plenty in strat :shock: So many headshots
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For archers being Immortal to 67% of the server
do nothing. This is a non-issue.
+1
We will continue discussing this until a solution is finally found. It is obvious you want the statu quo.
Highglandeur, you can add "spawning MOTF flags at the start of the round" as a possible solution. It discourages camping in all it's forms and puts the emphasis on melee combat. Archers running away ? No problem you don't need to kill them. Same for cav and archers on roofs.
Turkhammer youre a proven braindead archermy old friend and shouldnt be alloed to post in threads like this. do us a favor and get a weapon bitch!
this guy asks about unreachable archers solution.
on Pecores we have rule: no ladder - no roof.
if the ladder to a roof gets destroyed, people have to leave that roof.
Make ladders unbreakable. Simple and easy solutions
the trolling would be epic, much worse than construstion sites
automatic motf in min 1 ftw
I'd sayone slot ladders andweightless. It doesn't work if ppl just say to archer "get down from the roof". if there're no admin they just won't listen.
Unbreakable,cost zero gold, weight zero,consume zero slots.
Pure win!
Remove ladders and add deployable stakes.
Make torches able to burn down buildings!
this. even if i the stakes leads to even more camping in random maps, still better than chasing archers on roofs.
Make torches able to burn down buildings!
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Pure win. BTW, the deployable stakes you can just blatantly rip off from mount and musket. *Of course by blatantly rip off I mean grab the code, then ask them politely if you can use it in strat.* The stakes work great there. They block all movement from the front and the sides, however you can jump over them and walk over them from the back so as not to team-grief with them *without a little effort and ingenuity anyways*.
- make ladders redeployableI actually like this idea and have been thinking about it myself. Just very uncertain about if it would be possible or not. That being said, we are talking about chadz and cmp. They can do anything!
If a ladder gets 'destroyed' it falls to the ground and can be redeployed. No more unreachable spots and a reasonable compromise for the archers.
Perhaps they also need a bit more hitpoints, making it harder to quickly destroy them and easier to assault a roof full of enemies.
- make ladders redeployable+1
If a ladder gets 'destroyed' it falls to the ground and can be redeployed. No more unreachable spots and a reasonable compromise for the archers.
Perhaps they also need a bit more hitpoints, making it harder to quickly destroy them and easier to assault a roof full of enemies.
- make ladders redeployable+1
If a ladder gets 'destroyed' it falls to the ground and can be redeployed. No more unreachable spots and a reasonable compromise for the archers.
Perhaps they also need a bit more hitpoints, making it harder to quickly destroy them and easier to assault a roof full of enemies.
lower needed construction material to build a catapult to 1.
There won't be any roofs left to climb.
Problem solved.
Yes at medieval times defenders of the village could climb the roofs and use em as defensive position but don't forget that attackers had trebuchets,catapults,rotten cows,burning oil bombs etc....
Also there's a suggestion about archer's indirect fire which will let them shoot an arrow with more curve , less velocity which will cause arrow to stick to an archer who's hiding behind a wall,on top of the roof etc.
Volleys of arrows could help.
But i would still vote for "If a house causes problem, burn the fucking shit up !" idea.
Sounds more brutal, more medieval.
- make ladders redeployable
If a ladder gets 'destroyed' it falls to the ground and can be redeployed. No more unreachable spots and a reasonable compromise for the archers.
Perhaps they also need a bit more hitpoints, making it harder to quickly destroy them and easier to assault a roof full of enemies.
Not sure what's meant by "MOTF after 30 seconds". 30 seconds of what?MOTF spawns when there hasn't been a kill in 1 minute. The suggestion was to lower it to 30. Personally I would like it to spawn at the 1 minute left mark, NO MATTER WHAT, so that one retard getting himself killed at 00:59 doesn't fuck everything up.
30 seconds with no enemy hits, parries or blocks would be a reasonable time to launch MOTF. This would also solve issues like the last guy hiding in a bush or just not being able to find each other with 3 minutes still on the clock...
QQ? You want QQ'ing? Prepare your fucking QQ thread bitches, because I am about to Roof Camp the living shit out of you. I'm betting it will only take a day before Ladders are removed completely from the game and all maps are set to open field because you won't be able to handle it!
Really though, there has been some incredibly ignorant posts in this thread. It would take an entire book to explain just how wrong you are.
Beer, you are especially ignorant. You know what happens when you stand and shoot the rider without getting out of the way? You lose 1/2 to 3/4 of your health to the HORSE, even if the rider DIES. Geez, that's an AWESOME tactic! Just sacrifice over half your health! Oh, and that's only if you hit them! Should you miss, you're dead totally. Rider has better than cloth or has a shield? Even if you hit them, you lost 1/2 health. 2nd time you hit them again, oh but their platemail laughs at your puny arrow and you die from horse charge without the lancer even bothering to try to land a hit.
That Game Admin needs his adminhood revoked or remediated. This isn't a rock/paper/scissors World of Warcraft pvp server where the 1337 Class pwns all others.
I leave you with a quote from myself.
Well that was easy. First map, picked a roof and started camping. 5 dead horses and 3 dead riders! Awesome! You know the best part? They COULDN'T fight back! Just like me if I was on the ground! It was incredible! I was a GOD raining death down upon them without a thing they could do! Man, you guys are so right! Being able to kill a player without them being able to do anything about it is the most fulfilling thing I've ever done! :lol:
Look at this fucktard, is this still a NON ISSUE for you Turkhammer?
Look at this fucktard, is this still a NON ISSUE for you Turkhammer?
- make ladders redeployable
If a ladder gets 'destroyed' it falls to the ground and can be redeployed. No more unreachable spots and a reasonable compromise for the archers.
Perhaps they also need a bit more hitpoints, making it harder to quickly destroy them and easier to assault a roof full of enemies.
Pretty much.
I'm against removing ladders from battle.
I'm also against archers being unreachable. Some of the suggestions in this thread have been good for that purpose. I think having the MOTF be a factor is the best path.
Personally, if I'm playing an archer I won't prolong the match if I'm the last one standing and I'm unreachable. I'll jump to my death. Having MOTF would be the stalemate breaker for those that won't.
this is not an argument about you and how you act when playing an archer.
i just pasted you a post from a guy that announced to the whole world that he is planning to grief and be a dickhead to the rest of the community.
in this case how you play your archer char is irrelevant, understand?
Appart from hammer and destiny doing nothing but wasting our time, acting like kids who don't want you to discuss this because they don't agree with whatever childish idea they have of the possible outcome of the discussion, taking the piss and disrupting, instead of simply taking part like adults.
Thank you guys for all those ideas and comments and the time you spent on this, keep it up!
Easiest fix would be official statement, no ladder no roof if you are last ones. And make it reason for kicks and bans if continued.that's already the way it is, some people just don't like it that way.
that's already the way it is, some people just don't like it that way.
This really seems to be more an EU issue, never see archers camping unreachable spots and then destroying ladder in NA. If a ladder gets destroyed by enemy and theya re last alive, anyone on the roof (melee or archers) jump down. Maybe EU archers are more cowardly??