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Title: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 26, 2011, 04:56:03 pm
ok so since this game is based on teamwork as well as a RPG mod i think it would be fair to give exp for kills and for an assisted kill. both are rewarded for working together and taking the enemy down. this would make the game a bit more fun and exciting.

archer shoots a man and he gets away but dies to a cav or when 2 v 1 in a sword fight kills the 1. they both are rewarded.

it would also be excellent to add a counter on the scoreboard for assists !

im not saying remove multiplier, just toss a little exp to the guys working together killing the enemy team.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Eyerra on January 26, 2011, 05:01:06 pm
Who wouldn't vote for teamwork? :)
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 26, 2011, 05:03:03 pm
Stop making posts trying to circumvent the xp dispense rate.

No. It works just fine the way it is.

The only thing I want to see with assists is a "assist" tab on the scoreboard, because k/d alone really doesn't showcase a combatant. There are plenty of underrated combatants who don't get any credit.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 26, 2011, 05:09:16 pm
vote no if you dont like it. dont troll my thread. thanks

and yeah there should be a assist on that scoreboard list
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 26, 2011, 05:11:28 pm
hell yeah vote for teamwork! this could be the way assisted guys get the love they deserve !
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dunecat on January 26, 2011, 05:18:06 pm
Who wouldn't vote for teamwork? :)
Me.
Someone seems to be lobbying heavy changes in distribution of experience and gold, and using TEAMWORK as slogan, in this case.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Bcleary on January 26, 2011, 05:33:00 pm
What does assisted kill mean? Whoever gets the second to last hit? Again there is no reward for kills because it would lead to more reckless killing and therefore more kills.

Edit: Tim just said he got 7 kills in teamspeak, he already has 216k gold. Do you think he needs more?
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: LordBerenger on January 26, 2011, 05:37:13 pm
I voted yes. Reason? I had several times tough fights with the enemy and it was pretty much 1v1 me vs the enemy.

Had inflicted enough damage to know that the next blow would be death for the enemy. And what happens? Ofc my teammates who were close but didn't do anything before runs in and snatches the kill with a quick slash.

Yeah...
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dexxtaa on January 26, 2011, 05:38:36 pm
What does assisted kill mean? Whoever gets the second to last hit? Again there is no reward for kills because it would lead to more reckless killing and therefore more kills.

I define it using the same way Battlefield does it.

If you deal the bulk of the damage to the opponent, you get an assist point on the scoreboard.

So if 2 guys are whaling on one guy, and attacker1 deals 51% damage, and attacker2 kills him, attacker1 gets an assist.

If 3 guys are whaling on the the same guy, and 2 guys deal 33% damage and the third guy drops him, the first two get an assist.

If 3 guys are attacking and attacker1 deals 10% damage and attacker 2 does 87% damage and attacker3 kills him, only attacker2 gets the point.

~~

It's not entirely fair to peasants, but it gives them more of a chance of being recognized (2v1) than they do now (0%)
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 26, 2011, 05:50:41 pm
no dunecat. not heavy changes. not 5,000,000 exp for 100 kills not 1000 exp. just something to make it a bit more exciting. 50? 100?

i think it would add another layer back into the game.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Bcleary on January 26, 2011, 06:00:13 pm
Having an assist would do a lot to really credit who does it then dextaa, but i am still against the xp bonus to anything.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Cepeshi on January 26, 2011, 06:32:45 pm
yet another threat on the same topic man?

as on the previous one:
Simply put, no.
Rewarding kills is not going to make any good, people would just go all frag hunting, killing friends in the process, not caring about protecting others, help them, just kill...that would not be cool, i like how now tactics gets to place, with rewarding killing this would be killed again.

I feel almost as good when i serve a horseman by killing horse to other people to kill him than i like killing. Why should not i be rewarded for warning my friend and saving his life, killing horse or something?

Nah, just let it be as it is...
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Eyerra on January 26, 2011, 06:37:41 pm
Me.
Someone seems to be lobbying heavy changes in distribution of experience and gold, and using TEAMWORK as slogan, in this case.


Indeed. 8-)
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 26, 2011, 07:00:33 pm
you just copy pasted all the bullshit you wrote on the other thread...this was written in part because you cried others would get no recognition for helping... and with this they will.

i think your just trolling my polls now because you suck and cant kill or even assist your team

I feel almost as good when i serve a horseman by killing horse to other people to kill him than i like killing. Why should not i be rewarded for warning my friend and saving his life, killing horse or something?

 :lol: i dont know what to say to this...
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 26, 2011, 07:05:24 pm
who learned you to spoke?
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Ache on January 26, 2011, 07:21:53 pm
Would be nice because i make REALLY much kills ^^
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Casimir on January 26, 2011, 09:24:46 pm
adding assist scores to the kill board would reduce TK's.

+1
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 26, 2011, 11:32:35 pm
moar votes !!
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: EponiCo on January 27, 2011, 03:01:03 am
you just copy pasted all the bullshit you wrote on the other thread...this was written in part because you cried others would get no recognition for helping... and with this they will.

i think your just trolling my polls now because you suck and cant kill or even assist your team

 :lol: i dont know what to say to this...

In this game there are many many ways to assist your allies without doing damage at all. Hold out against a superior enemy or group until your allies regroup/gang him/kill everyone else. Scatter the enemy so your team can steamroll them. Etc.
The assumtion that someone who does 8 slashes is more skilled or a greater asset to the team than someone who does only 2 is just as naive as that someone with 0 kills is worse than someone with 3. Sometimes that's the case, sometimes not. Regardless, a good player will have the moments where he can shine eventually, because he's good. If it came to me I'd actually remove the scoreboard because it does distract me from teamplay often.
Given how spam happy everyone is I also see no need for further encouragement to slash at enemies. So an assist counter, yes, if possible, but rewards for hitting an enemy, no.

And when we are pointing out mistakes in English ... it's who taught you to speak.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Cepeshi on January 27, 2011, 11:50:35 am
Was just going to correct his idiotic verb usage also, but hey, u were there first :P

Anyways, yeah, i copypasted all cause this post is full of the same crap as the one before. And i certainly know, how to kill, but i do not need to brag about my 4:1 KD on some maps, as on others, i am the one assisting, not finishing :P

Imagine, how hard it would be to code anything with the assist in the game, i am no programmer or anything, but i think it might be quite problematic.

If you start awarding killing blows, you WILL kill teamwork. Period. About the assist, same stuff, same story.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 27, 2011, 05:01:33 pm
obviously you guys missed the joke lol

and...
who learned you to spoke?
was just to tease him a little...

anyways this mod is still in beta. things are changing every other patch. obviously the votes count and people do agree with me. this is still beta so i wouldnt be so sure of myself if i were you cepeshi.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Cepeshi on January 27, 2011, 05:52:33 pm
The thing is, you did not put viable options to reply on the poll actually:

bonus EXP for both kills and assists?

teamwork wins!
No, I ONLY enjoy the multiplier.


I have stated getting bonus would kill teamwork, as people would start hunting frags...and how can i reply?

Teamwork wins, but that is not the answer to the question of the poll ...

Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Rextard on January 28, 2011, 10:32:56 am
I would really like to see assists implemented in the scoreboard. As a shielder, lately I'm lucky to get hits let alone kills because most people just gang up on me. And I encounter lots of that 'allies rush in' bs, where you do the work laying on up to 5/6 hits and someone else gets your point for their score because they swoop in at the last second and land one hit.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Blondin on January 28, 2011, 12:35:19 pm
If someone kills a guy that i have hit 5-6 times, well that's good, the guy is dead and i can attack another one. I don't care if he gets a +1 to scoreboard, but i care to win the round. To resume i don't care who got the biggest e-peen... That's for tards and kiddo...

Also we win a lot of xp and gold with new system, xp on k/d is useless and will make the game less teamwork. The system was change in this way, why coming back to the old system when ppl were tking to have one kill, and acting like selfish moron.
Thx to chadz and dev team for the improvement of gameplay, this guys have a general view of players behaviour and game mechanics that we don't have as players.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Magikarp on January 28, 2011, 02:04:02 pm
Tkers get punished by kicks and bans, both from polls(sometimes) and from admins(usually).

Teamwork gets you a higher multiplier, try doing that for a change.

/thread
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 28, 2011, 09:27:51 pm
kicks and bans huh? not every teamkiller gets punished. this will help punish EVERYONE accident or asshole.

and what if teamwork didnt get you a higher multiplier? what if your great teamwork wasnt good enough? this will benefit those that did kill or help kill their enemy team.

try doing that for a change.

have i played with you before? me thinks your just pretending to be a smart ass
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: zakker on January 28, 2011, 09:54:12 pm
i think something like teamvork counter on scoreboard would be good the counter counts every strike/shot on enemy and "helping" like shooting catapults, making siege shields, ladders and so on.
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: EponiCo on January 28, 2011, 10:41:55 pm
I would really like to see assists implemented in the scoreboard. As a shielder, lately I'm lucky to get hits let alone kills because most people just gang up on me. And I encounter lots of that 'allies rush in' bs, where you do the work laying on up to 5/6 hits and someone else gets your point for their score because they swoop in at the last second and land one hit.

It's always kind of funny to see when you are fighting against 2 people and some allies come to help you.
Often all will swarm the guy you slashed thrice and let you fight the uninjured alone.  :lol:
Title: Re: EXP for killing blow and assisted kill !-!-!
Post by: Dreakon_The_Destroyer on January 29, 2011, 04:25:01 pm
i love swarming lol must terrify the lone 1 vs 8 guy