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cRPG => Events & Tournaments => Topic started by: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 10:19:19 am

Title: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 10:19:19 am: Since there is still ranged spammery going on, Melee Monday will be reinstated as of Monday, that is all.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Trael on January 26, 2011, 11:10:51 am: as on what server... all of them? if so are we going to get crossbow saturdays?
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Serth on January 26, 2011, 11:19:42 am: Quote from: Trael on January 26, 2011, 11:10:51 am
as on what server... all of them? if so are we going to get crossbow saturdays?

Damn i wish farchers had their own server with ranged only.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 11:20:22 am: Is it possible to let "Melee Monday" will be pure Melle - no cava?
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Dunecat on January 26, 2011, 11:21:18 am: Quote from: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 11:20:22 am
Is it possible to let "Melee Monday" will be pure Melle - no cava?
Technically, cavalry counts as "melee".
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 11:38:59 am: While Cav is melee, i wouldnt mind not having them. Unfortunately, there is no "Disallow Horses" button, there is only a "Disallow Ranged Weapons" button.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Meow on January 26, 2011, 12:27:55 pm: just allow everyone to kill horses? :D
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 12:56:39 pm: Funny to hear what technical features are problem for admin team.
Just write 2 words in server rules (NO HORSES !) and problem solved.

BTW existing EU server rules also doesn't support by game engine (like punishment for TK, for team damage, for... (long list)).
And noone saying what "server doesn't support 1 day ban for leeching".
Here are the rules - here are the admins (or poll system if no admins in the game)
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Punisher on January 26, 2011, 12:59:21 pm: Melee monday should be no cav, without ranged weapons cav is overpowered. Make it like naked mike day, if anyone is seen on a horse his teammates are allowed to tk him at will.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 12:59:27 pm: Quote from: Dunecat on January 26, 2011, 11:21:18 am
Technically, cavalry counts as "melee".
Proof link?

When I trying investigate this question
(for example here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melee_weapon
or here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons )
I didn't found in melee weapon list those nice weapons as "Rouncey", "Steppe Horse", "Destrier" or even hypothetical "horse".
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: bruce on January 26, 2011, 01:20:45 pm: Quote from: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 12:59:27 pm
Proof link?

When I trying investigate this question
(for example here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melee_weapon
or here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons )
I didn't found in melee weapon list those nice weapons as "Rouncey", "Steppe Horse", "Destrier" or even hypothetical "horse".

Given a lorry is considered an improvised melee weapon, perhaps we could replace horses on melee monday with giant trucks for running people over?
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Dunecat on January 26, 2011, 01:28:31 pm: Quote from: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 12:59:27 pm
Proof link?

When I trying investigate this question
(for example here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melee_weapon
or here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons )
I didn't found in melee weapon list those nice weapons as "Rouncey", "Steppe Horse", "Destrier" or even hypothetical "horse".
This can't be serious.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

You might notice a horse or two.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 01:46:29 pm: Nice picture. But where is proofing?
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Meow on January 26, 2011, 01:55:32 pm: ok so instead of you guys pulling a stupid discussion out of this - it's a pure rule thing.
i think we can all agree on the fact that there are basically 3 combat types in this game which are ranged, melee and mounted.
if it is melee monday it should be restricted to melee if it is no range monday it should be melee and cav...

the problem is that cav already is strong with range on the field.
basically you're going from "you all need a shield against ranged" to "you all need a pike against horses".
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 01:57:11 pm: Quote from: Meow on January 26, 2011, 01:55:32 pm
ok so instead of you guys pulling a stupid discussion out of this - it's a pure rule thing.
i think we can all agree on the fact that there are basically 3 combat types in this game which are ranged, melee and mounted.
if it is melee monday it should be restricted to melee if it is no range monday it should be melee and cav...

the problem is that cav already is strong with range on the field.
basically you're going from "you all need a shield against ranged" to "you all need a pike against horses".
Exactly. You sad clearly what I want to explain. Thanks you ^)
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Dunecat on January 26, 2011, 02:11:14 pm: Quote from: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 01:46:29 pm
Nice picture. But where is proof?
Sigh.
It's a picture from the second link you gave. According to the description, it depicts a "mêlée at a tournament".
People keep mistaking "melee" for "melee (aka non-ranged) infantry".
(click to show/hide)
Meow, every "discussion", no matter how stupid it might seem, doesn't exist just for the sake of existance.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 02:27:18 pm: So - that's mean what =
to take a "Plated Charger" (even with no weapon)
and just riding around and bumping other team until they die
is a "melee battle"? Very funny definition of melee.

By your definition - it is ok. It is really "melee".
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Meow on January 26, 2011, 02:35:27 pm: Quote from: Dunecat on January 26, 2011, 02:11:14 pm
Meow, every "discussion", no matter how stupid it might seem, doesn't exist just for the sake of existance.

point is if you want to talk about semantics instead of acknowledging why we talk about it in the first place you're not helping the topic at all which makes it useless for the thread itself.
pretty much like what we are doing here right now.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 02:36:11 pm: tbh, cav is still melee.
I think im going to allow it, will see if things get really bad.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Joxer on January 26, 2011, 02:38:15 pm: This is a stupid idea. Ranged is a natural counter to 2h/pole and you just remove them? If this goes on you shouldn't get any g/xp from it.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Dunecat on January 26, 2011, 02:40:26 pm: Quote from: Meow on January 26, 2011, 02:35:27 pm
point is if you want to talk about semantics instead of acknowledging why we talk about it in the first place you're not helping the topic at all which makes it useless for the thread itself.
pretty much like what we are doing here right now.
Quite true. But as a thread is an announcement, it served it's role already, and we are basicly bumping it to further popularize it.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 02:40:49 pm: Quote from: Joxer on January 26, 2011, 02:38:15 pm
This is a stupid idea. Ranged is a natural counter to 2h/pole and you just remove them? If this goes on you shouldn't get any g/xp from it.

thats a terribly good point that I am going to completly ignore. Melee Monday FTW.
Go organize Throwing Thursdays or some shit.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 03:03:41 pm: Quote from: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 02:36:11 pm
tbh, cav is still melee.
I think im going to allow it, will see if things get really bad.
Wooki - why some peoples against cava?
Just imagine a situation:

1.I am on horse. You are not ^).

2.Of course you can have a pike. To fight with me you need something long (as pike of lance).
Without "anti-cava" weapon you can't beat me, but I can ^).

3.But to fight with other infantry (usual) using other weapon (sword, spear, e.t.c.).

4.From one side you are attacked by enemy team.

5.(and most interesting) what I am plying (riding) right behind you (and your mini-team - who are close to you).
I am not far away from you (about 3-4 meters). So - I can anytime hit you with my lance. In very short time (from my decision to attack you to landing my weapon).
It is some seconds (2-3). You can't reach me. Totaly ^). If I will not do a fault.
But I every second keeping you under the threat(danger).
If you will change you weapon from pike to close-combat weapon - you'll recieve hit from me.
If you will turn around from me (to other enemy) - you'll recieve hit from me.
If you trying to scare me by taking a pike and running on me - I will ride from you to other.
I will do all thing like above to other your teammates.
And when you change your pike to other weapon i will be back very quickly ^) .

I am free. I am invulnerable. While all your back line (I mean all mans staying in 2nd or whatever line) are vulnerable to my sudden attack.

On "normal" server horses afraid to ride near from infantry cos. of throwings, Xbow and bow.
Here is no "anit-cava" classes. So Cavalry are in this case like .... you know ^)

Even if yout teammates (and you) looking around 1 sec ago (to check where are the enemy).
Even so - in next second you can be killed by me.
Cos I can ride at full speed across your lines.

So. IMHO here is not needed additional reasons.
Or it is clear or not.
And, of course, It's up to personal feelings and flavors(?).
I have much greater speed than you
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 26, 2011, 03:16:31 pm: Melee Monday FTW!

I don't mind having Cav around. Don't having to pay attention to ranged already makes the game feel a walk in the park. and cav pfft, just block 'em if they seem carefull, kill them if not.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Joxer on January 26, 2011, 04:00:26 pm: Quote from: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 02:40:49 pm
thats a terribly good point that I am going to completly ignore. Melee Monday FTW.
Go organize Throwing Thursdays or some shit.

Not surprised this coming from a tincan riding a tank.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Wookimonsta on January 26, 2011, 04:07:59 pm: Quote from: Joxer on January 26, 2011, 04:00:26 pm
Not surprised this coming from a tincan riding a tank.

lol, i go around in peasant disguise with a pike and only ride cav every now and then
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Freshest_Prince on January 26, 2011, 04:24:06 pm: Melee Monday will lead to Crossbow Friday, which will then result in two days where the game can't be played normally. If you add in Naked Day, there's 3 days where it's not as fun. I say neigh to all these special days.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: 3ABP on January 26, 2011, 04:55:28 pm: Quote from: Freshest_Prince on January 26, 2011, 04:24:06 pm
Melee Monday will lead to Crossbow Friday, which will then result in two days where the game can't be played normally. If you add in Naked Day, there's 3 days where it's not as fun. I say neigh to all these special days.
Man -do you clearly understand, what here is 6 (six) game servers.
Eu1, Eu2, Eu3 (duel), Eu5 and Eu6 + Eu4_bt1 + Eu4_Siege.
And in one day in week on one server (one - o n e) will be any (let's imagine any - what you 100% don't like) event...
Will it make your game, live and personal feelings so terrible what you will not be capable to endure this?
Or, may be, you just will go to other 5 servers running in normal mode.

I really want to know this - is it totally unacceptably to you - if one of six servers will be temporary switched to another mode instead standard?
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 26, 2011, 07:52:12 pm: nekkid day is NA only.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: bruce on January 27, 2011, 03:54:31 am: Quote from: Joxer on January 26, 2011, 02:38:15 pm
This is a stupid idea. Ranged is a natural counter to everyone who is not using a large shield, holding RMB, and looking at them ~~to 2h/pole~~ and generally use 2h/polearms and you just remove them?

Had to fix your misguided statement somewhat.

If you want to, ask for a eg ranged tuesday on some other server and enjoy the fun, or just play on EU1 or the variety of other servers.

Now, I wish there were no horses involved, but oh well.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: ManOfWar on January 27, 2011, 04:59:44 am: NA needs a melee monday
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: forgivers on January 27, 2011, 05:50:35 am: ranged friday yay! melee monday is BS hope throwing aint allowed
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 27, 2011, 09:41:17 am: cant even seperate throwing from archery, ranged is ranged. and disabled.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Wookimonsta on January 27, 2011, 11:15:04 am: no weapons that can in anyway be removed from your person in an offensive manner.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Meow on January 28, 2011, 05:19:55 am: damn it i can't find the image of the horse cute puppy anymore.
that would totally proof that horses can be used in an offensive manner after being removed from you! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: RandomDude on February 01, 2011, 03:04:50 am: we forgot to set melee monday up =(
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Punisher on February 01, 2011, 09:21:38 am: Why not make it a Melee Tuesday this week only so we don't have to wait another week for it (feels like it will never happen).
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on February 01, 2011, 10:30:03 am: Quote from: RandomDude on February 01, 2011, 03:04:50 am
we forgot to set melee monday up =(
Yeah, i wondered about all the flying stuff yesterday.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Punisher on February 07, 2011, 02:29:46 pm: Well it's monday but ranged spam is still here.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Poetrydog on February 07, 2011, 03:19:22 pm: Can someone confirm when they have turned it off?
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Mtemtko on February 07, 2011, 08:02:17 pm: Huh.. didnt wooki say he cant turn off ranged anymore? Or am i missing something here?
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Meow on February 07, 2011, 08:05:55 pm: yeah pretty sure the option is gone. if we could get a melee only server without any kind of range and with no horses i'm all for a 24/7 one :D

else i'm getting an elephant.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 24, 2011, 01:17:37 pm: so, melee monday is no longer possible, is that right? If so, sad thing. :cry:
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Vibe on March 24, 2011, 01:30:49 pm: +1 to reinstate melee monday
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Kafein on April 11, 2011, 07:03:26 pm: With the increasing amount of ranged spam and the lack of xp and gold from duel servers, this is becoming a dire need.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Daergar on April 14, 2011, 06:15:20 am: Quote from: Kafein on April 11, 2011, 07:03:26 pm
With the increasing amount of ranged spam and the lack of xp and gold from duel servers, this is becoming a dire need.

Just join the Risen server, we're melee only with no cavalry allowed. People seem to like it so far. :wink:
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Thovex on April 14, 2011, 08:34:35 am: +1 to get Melee-only!

Oh wait it's there.
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: McCart on June 15, 2011, 09:07:11 pm: we need our melee monday massacre again. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: MELEE MONDAY!
Post by: Tristan on June 15, 2011, 11:56:29 pm: Melee monday is always cav rape day.

If you could ban horses it might work!