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cRPG => Scene Editing => Topic started by: Thomek on January 04, 2011, 10:12:49 am

Title: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Thomek on January 04, 2011, 10:12:49 am
I'm too stupid and lazy to make such a map, but I think it would be awesome and simple and quick to make.

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* Natural fightpoint is the bridge.
* West has cabin with corners and windows, East have better hills
* People can sneak over/under the water. It can be deep in center but shallow near the shore so archers cant fire from under water.
* The areas marked FLAT has fewer trees for cav to roam (but still trees, can't give cav too easy time)
* The road is a natural guideline for troop movement
* Surprise cav-charges to the cabin through the fog.. Too bad they can't get into the cabin :-)
* X-bowers heaven with all the trees.. but they would have to look behind always..

In it's simplicity and easyness of building, I'm sure someone will have time to make it :-) I think it would be a very simple and different map from what we have now.. Would be awesome if FOG was enforced and always on though.

I think it would be a paranoid map, where it's easy to get lost, Ninja people, and meet random people in duels, as well as have awesome charges over the bridge that forms a natural stand-off situation. (Shouldn't bee too long bridge).

a road in it..
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a cabin, that someone can go into or hide behind/run around.
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Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Seawied on January 04, 2011, 01:34:00 pm
I like the layout, but you need to give the east side some equivalent to the cabin. I can see that as potentially a deciding factor for the map.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Thomek on January 04, 2011, 01:37:19 pm
I know that's why I'm thinking they have more hills in a wider arc on their side of the bridge. Road is in a kind of pass.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Kong Ming on January 04, 2011, 02:38:11 pm
I like the idea in general, but I'm not sure if fog can be set in cRPG or if it's over-ridden by the server.  The only other trick is to make sure players can actually find each other as the round progresses.  It needs a clear focal point or else we'll all be stuck watching some idiot draw out the end of the round by hiding in the fog.  The bridge could solve that if implemented correctly though.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Thomek on January 04, 2011, 02:45:42 pm
yeah that's why I have the road and the bridge there.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: cmp on January 04, 2011, 03:00:30 pm
Fog is random, but it wouldn't be to hard to add an always-foggy weather just for some maps.
If someone makes the maps, that is.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Thomek on January 04, 2011, 03:11:07 pm
Cmpx.. I think I could make such a map with the scene editor.

But I would have no idea how to export it from M&B and make it MP. Could you help out on the technical side? :-)
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: cmp on January 04, 2011, 03:45:53 pm
I'm not exactly the best person for that (never done any mapping), Airith should be able to help you (he's NA, so he'll probably see it later).
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Geranigus on January 04, 2011, 08:59:14 pm
Forests are indeed cool maps, but when using too much trees, the game can start lagging badly.
That's why there aren't really much forests map or it are very small ones.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Alex_C on January 04, 2011, 11:18:50 pm
Quote from: Geranigus on January 04, 2011, 08:59:14 pm
Forests are indeed cool maps, but when using too much trees, the game can start lagging badly.

This. When I did a bit of scene-editing way back when, the first try-out map I made had a rather large forest and it was near impossible for anyone with a low-end PC to play.

There might be a way to use the trees more sparingly and still create the same effect however, I don't know.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Dunecat on January 05, 2011, 04:26:37 pm
I think high hills and a cave / grotto should be added to south-western corner of the map.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Geranigus on January 05, 2011, 04:28:53 pm
Quote from: Alex_C on January 04, 2011, 11:18:50 pm
There might be a way to use the trees more sparingly and still create the same effect however, I don't know.

Well, if you make a small map, it can work.
UPDATE: I'm working for an example without the fog.
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Thomek on January 05, 2011, 10:34:31 pm
 :lol:
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Ishar on January 06, 2011, 03:05:08 am
There you go, you don't have to enforce the fog anymore! It's permanent on every siege server. Satisfied?
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Geranigus on January 06, 2011, 01:51:52 pm
Quote from: Ishar on January 06, 2011, 03:05:08 am
There you go, you don't have to enforce the fog anymore! It's permanent on every siege server. Satisfied?
:rolleyes: blue fog forest
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Thomek on January 06, 2011, 04:22:44 pm
I dont understand the fog situation :-)

I dont see any fog?
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Geranigus on January 06, 2011, 04:45:08 pm
Quote from: Thomek on January 06, 2011, 04:22:44 pm
I dont understand the fog situation :-)

I dont see any fog?
Siege servers have the blue fog bug
Title: Re: Foggy forest! (Is there a way to enforce fog?)
Post by: Vammo75 on January 07, 2011, 02:15:26 am
Quote from: Geranigus on January 06, 2011, 04:45:08 pm
Siege servers have the blue fog bug

Not in DX7 they don't.

By the way, there was a (dense-ish) forest map on NA servers (not the ambush map but an older one) that didn't lag even on my poor laptop (2*2.2GHz, 4GB,  ATI mob. 4570) maybe that size would ideal for your map. I don't know what it was called or if they still run it though.