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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Nebun on September 08, 2011, 04:07:50 pm

Title: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Nebun on September 08, 2011, 04:07:50 pm
FCC and TKOV managed to attack 2 towns and 1 castle with just 5-10 troops in them.
We though it shouldn't be possible and tryind ourselves. It doesn't allow u to attack fiefs with 10k population in it, with just 10 troops.
So I assume they know a bug which we don't know.
If its a raid and they get paid, please stop this cheat early in the game, because we might need another money wipe.

Please check outcome of this attacks on fiefs to see what can be gained. Otherwise this will spread across all calradia soon and we'll have armies in plate again.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 08, 2011, 04:29:03 pm
You're late bud.
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,15097.0.html
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Nebun on September 08, 2011, 06:27:13 pm
thx

well we couldn't recreate this issue, until now... i will let u know of the outcome
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Adoptagoat on September 09, 2011, 01:17:50 pm
The attack was started in a normal fashion.  There's only one attack button, after all.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 09, 2011, 04:57:32 pm
This is ridiculous I look at the battle list this morning and 8 of the 13 battles are being initiated against Towns with 10000+ troops and castles with 4500 troops and the attackers have 10, 20 and 50 people.  This needs to be fixed...you shouldn't be able to waste the time slots on the two strategus battle servers with these battles (and I'm assuming if defenders show up they just retreat and don't lose anything).  Hey devs, want to fix some massive issues (retreating with no losses and attacking fiefs with 10 people)?  That'd be really excellent...Thanks!

maybe that will get their attention...

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Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Kalp on September 09, 2011, 05:31:21 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on September 09, 2011, 04:57:32 pm
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Agree.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Keshian on September 09, 2011, 05:39:24 pm
Revolution - Peasant rebellion, down with these capitalist english pig-dogs, we thumb our nose at thee.  May your mother make love to a hamster.  Viva la resistance - anarchy rules, all the cities must crumble to our mighty ninja squads.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Karmazyn on September 09, 2011, 07:05:09 pm
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on September 09, 2011, 04:57:32 pm

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Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: SittingBull on September 09, 2011, 08:00:22 pm
Just be happy another bug was found. Beta for a reason. Sure, it's cheap, but people are going to use it because it benefits them, cheap or not.

I'm looking forward to the full wipe frankly.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: justjr on September 09, 2011, 08:05:07 pm
Everybody knows how to do, but not everyone will do it. I expect that whom does it ends punished.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Flawless on September 09, 2011, 08:10:13 pm
The point of this beta is to find bugs and fix them for the real strat, and action in this strat is irreverent and does not require punishment. The only thing hurt here is respect, nothing more. 
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 09, 2011, 08:11:03 pm
Quote from: justjr on September 09, 2011, 08:05:07 pm
Everybody knows how to do, but not everyone will do it. I expect that whom does it ends punished.

if it's part of the game they shouldn't be punished in a beta.  it's part of finding the bugs.  personally if you want to be upset with someone, be upset with the developers who haven't acknowledged any of these issues in any of the threads people have started. 
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: VVarlord on September 09, 2011, 08:17:06 pm
Ill grab this side of the wall you grab the other and on 3 we pull ok?

ok.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Dehitay on September 10, 2011, 12:30:18 am
Quote from: justjr on September 09, 2011, 08:05:07 pm
Everybody knows how to do, but not everyone will do it. I expect that whom does it ends punished.
Trust in mankind fail!
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Lizard_man on September 10, 2011, 01:45:22 am
it's a shame that some of these will probably be successful, especially with the time the battles are being fought at, shame on the clans exploiting this...
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Matey on September 10, 2011, 01:48:21 am
Quote from: Lizard_man on September 10, 2011, 01:45:22 am
it's a shame that some of these will probably be successful, especially with the time the battles are being fought at, shame on the clans exploiting this...

easy solution... only sign up on defense if you KNOW you can MAKE it to the fight. for example... if the fight is 6am for French players... then leave it to NA players... cause its only 9pm-12am for them.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: ManOfWar on September 10, 2011, 01:56:09 am
Quote from: Matey on September 10, 2011, 01:48:21 am
easy solution... only sign up on defense if you KNOW you can MAKE it to the fight. for example... if the fight is 6am for French players... then leave it to NA players... cause its only 9pm-12am for them.

are you telling me that DRZ signed up for every god damn slot for this battle?
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Matey on September 10, 2011, 01:58:34 am
for the one TKoV succeeded on... they had 75% or so of the roster, the other 25% were guys i dont remember... but only 1 person showed up, and he was DRZ.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: ManOfWar on September 10, 2011, 02:02:30 am
D you intend to break the game with all the gold you gained?
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Lizard_man on September 10, 2011, 02:02:49 am
75% of the roster not turning up though, seems a little strange...
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: BaleOhay on September 10, 2011, 02:06:51 am
they did not make the defenders not show up. They did that on their own
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Lizard_man on September 10, 2011, 02:12:55 am
regardless, it still begs the question, why did they all sign up if they did not intend on showing up...
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Matey on September 10, 2011, 02:19:06 am
seeing as they hate us and want to crush us... it is a pretty good question... and it was 90% of the roster that didnt show. only 1 guy showed up. but 75% of the roster were DRZ who are engaged in a rather heated war with us... so im PRETTY sure they didnt want TKoV to get Khudan.

@manowar: stay with the times man! the gold/gear is gone! even though all the devs seemed to agree it was no exploit; they decided to reduce the advantage we gained out of it to keep things interesting i guess.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: ManOfWar on September 10, 2011, 02:21:39 am
O ok then why are we still yelling at each other? As long as the gold and troops are gone. I do not give 2 shits about the circumstances
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Lizard_man on September 10, 2011, 02:23:08 am
I just hope that people will take notice of this, and as Matey says, only sign up if you know you can make it...
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 10, 2011, 02:31:24 am
Quote from: ManOfWar on September 10, 2011, 02:21:39 am
O ok then why are we still yelling at each other?

Butthurt people yell a lot, so do the confused.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 10, 2011, 03:22:17 am
Quote from: Matey on September 10, 2011, 02:19:06 am
seeing as they hate us and want to crush us... it is a pretty good question... and it was 90% of the roster that didnt show. only 1 guy showed up. but 75% of the roster were DRZ who are engaged in a rather heated war with us... so im PRETTY sure they didnt want TKoV to get Khudan.

@manowar: stay with the times man! the gold/gear is gone! even though all the devs seemed to agree it was no exploit; they decided to reduce the advantage we gained out of it to keep things interesting i guess.

I can't speak to the first point, I didn't see who signed up (or if other people were signed up for the battle and ready to fight but the AI was fucked). 

The 2nd point has nothing to do with an exploit...it's a basic fault w/ the town maps if the attackers are spawning inside the defensive positions...
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Nebun on September 10, 2011, 05:29:23 am
1. the resp was bugged as well in this town
2. attacked with 10 troops, which shouldn't be allowed at all
3. no defenders showed up, woundering why (not fcc friends?)
4. since attackers army was small, only about 13-15 merc slots was allowed for defence (this was fixed now i think)




Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Matey on September 10, 2011, 05:45:12 am
Quote from: Nebun on September 10, 2011, 05:29:23 am

3. no defenders showed up, woundering why (not fcc friends?)


you guys are our friends? defense roster was mostly DRZ with a few other EU mercs.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: BaleOhay on September 10, 2011, 05:55:30 am
Matey we can be friends with them if they keep signing up for things and not showing up.
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: HarunYahya on September 10, 2011, 07:05:58 am
I just lol when i see FCC accusing other clans of exploiting.
Really just lol...
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: hamiler on September 10, 2011, 07:00:45 pm
Really....people have you been watching/playing strat we been in a epic war with DRZ i dont see why people  calling us friends.....we can be friends if only they give me a lifetime of vodka  :D
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Thovex on September 10, 2011, 10:10:01 pm
Funny how our battle, was actually just to check spawns in Yalen and it was a naked 42 army, If we were to use the exploit of taking it over against 1 merc we'd have atleast armor :P (I forgot though :D )
Title: Re: Attakcs on Neutral fiefs: with just 5-10 troops.
Post by: Nebun on September 12, 2011, 02:37:53 am
Quote from: Matey on September 10, 2011, 05:45:12 am
you guys are our friends? defense roster was mostly DRZ with a few other EU mercs.

not enough merc slots for defence when attacked with small army like 10 troops.
now i think been fixed and ammout of mercs increased so this issue shouldn't repeat