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Title: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 01:27:27 am: visitors can't see pics , please register or login

I was wondering if it was allowed to perma ban someone just because we're their enemies?
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Patricia on September 06, 2011, 01:32:29 am: Doesn't show if they did anything wrong or not, it was probably because of your plated charger heavy armor crossbowing bundle of sticksry.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 01:34:15 am: Idk if they saw or not i respeced into 1h.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Patricia on September 06, 2011, 01:36:52 am: Quote from: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 01:34:15 am
Idk if they saw or not i respeced into 1h.

You're still extremely fucking lame to fight with or against.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Gorath on September 06, 2011, 01:42:15 am: Quote from: Patricia on September 06, 2011, 01:32:29 am
Doesn't show if they did anything wrong or not, it was probably because of your plated charger heavy armor crossbowing bundle of sticksry.

That's still not a valid reason to ban someone. Even if I do agree with you about it being bundle of sticksry.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:43:42 am: So on some servers, you can be banned because someone dislikes how you play? I had no idea someone spilled Native admins into my cRGP.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 01:44:58 am: This was on haven.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Gorath on September 06, 2011, 01:45:48 am: Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:43:42 am
So on some servers, you can be banned because someone dislikes how you play?

Welcome to internet gaming?
wtf, where have you been since the dawn of the baud modem
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Brrrak on September 06, 2011, 01:47:15 am: Don't play on Haven's server then.

Wait a tick, you don't have a choice now; better that way I think.

(click to show/hide)
You're still a tremendous bundle of sticks for riding around on a plated charger, in full plate, firing a crossbow.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Gorath on September 06, 2011, 01:50:47 am: cRPG community: Full of in-fighting, arguing, disagreements and malice. But occasionally the majority comes together and shares the same opinion on certain matters:
Quote from: Brrrak on September 06, 2011, 01:47:15 am
You're still a tremendous bundle of sticks for riding around on a plated charger, in full plate, firing a crossbow.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:51:49 am: We should have Meow disconnect the server from the database and ban all of Haven.

Also, lol at all the whiners of his playstyle.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Gorath on September 06, 2011, 01:53:27 am: Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:51:49 am
Also, lol at all the ~~whiners~~ haters of his playstyle.

Fixed. Honestly his playstyle can't be very effective at all when it comes to KDR. That doesn't stop it from being homosexual to a large degree. :wink:
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 06, 2011, 01:54:16 am: Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:51:49 am
We should have Meow disconnect the server from the database and ban all of Haven.

Also, lol at all the whiners of his playstyle.

<3 you TOD

@Gorath

We do it for fun, and we all re-spec'd lol
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 01:54:56 am: I SAID I RESPECED DAMMIT!!! and i agree with tears
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Brrrak on September 06, 2011, 01:55:08 am: Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:51:49 am
We should have Meow disconnect the server from the database and ban all of Haven.

Also, lol at all the whiners of his playstyle.

+1, qft.

It's less whining and more "Wtf, ridiculous"...ing at it.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Relit on September 06, 2011, 01:57:17 am: Allions was more likely banned for fighting against Haven in the strat battle. Im sure if I went on there I would be just as swiftly banned.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Gorath on September 06, 2011, 01:58:28 am: Quote from: Artyem on September 06, 2011, 01:54:16 am
@Gorath

We do it for fun, and we all re-spec'd lol

I have no doubt of that. :mrgreen:
I can't imagine anyone doing something that gay on accident lol
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:59:52 am: I like how this type of thread pops up every two weeks like clockwork.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 02:01:05 am: Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:59:52 am
I like how this type of thread pops up every two weeks like clockwork.
What do you mean? Well havens been doing this for awhile now lol. I'm still surprised their server hasn't been disconnected yet.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 06, 2011, 02:01:22 am: The question remains:

Is the cause the server or the player?
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Post by: vesa on September 06, 2011, 02:01:45 am: visitors can't see pics , please register or login

just a screenshot from chat
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 06, 2011, 02:04:33 am: Quote from: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 02:01:05 am
What do you mean? Well havens been doing this for awhile now lol. I'm still surprised their server hasn't been disconnected yet.

I mean a player posting in general talk about admin/server abuse.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 06, 2011, 02:04:46 am: Enough for the people?
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 02:08:05 am: I'm still wondering if that's allowed. Perma banning someone just cause their your enemies?
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 06, 2011, 02:18:25 am: For the record, we weren't there to troll. A few of our friends still play there and we enjoy playing the occasional game with them.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Digglez on September 06, 2011, 02:56:49 am: Its their server, they can do whatever the hell they want. Try reading the guidelines that cRPG devs require independent server operators to abide by in order to have their servers on the cRPG database to see if they actually broke any guidelines.

its like you've never played a mod before
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 03:05:39 am: Quote from: Digglez on September 06, 2011, 02:56:49 am
Its their server, they can do whatever the hell they want. Try reading the guidelines that cRPG devs require independent server operators to abide by in order to have their servers on the cRPG database to see if they actually broke any guidelines.

its like you've never played a mod before

Alright thanks.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Nehvar on September 06, 2011, 03:51:14 am: I looked it up for you. (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,5650.msg95493.html#msg95493) (I was interested in the information myself.)

Quote
Having your server connected to the Database is a privilege you get for providing the community with a place to play.
This means that your server is a public place for everyone.
You are allowed to kick/ban people that intentionally disrupt the gameplay but you are not allowed to kick or ban almost all players except your clan/friends to work around the no password rule.
If behavior like that is reported it will be investigated, if your server does not qualify as a public server anymore it will be disconnected.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 05:00:10 am: Let's work together and disconnect this server!
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Beer on September 06, 2011, 05:48:13 am: I have had nothing but bad experiences with the Haven server. Admins are jerks, Duel rule is only enforced when a haven is involved(Example: They will kick somebody for not dueling a haven, but if a haven won't duel you, they won't do anything half the time.), random map changes to arena, the list goes on and on.

I enjoy the small battle feel of Haven, so I keep coming back, but I think I will be switching to ootl from now on.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 06:36:58 am: Agreed.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Leesin on September 06, 2011, 01:32:32 pm: Sounds pretty lame tbh, whilst I agree that people have their own servers with own forms of rules, I feel it is going against the rules on having a cRPG server when you start kicking/banning people because they wont duel the enemies last guy, just because he happens to be a Haven member, then not do anything when the tables are reversed and a Haven won't duel.

IMO if you want duels, run a duel server, if not then you don't kick or ban players because they don't want to duel.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Meow on September 06, 2011, 03:11:33 pm: Well two options:
First: Don't support the server by playing there if those guy piss you off.
Second: Show me hard evidence of them breaking set rules for those unofficial servers so they get disconnected.

Also if you basically just want to be unbanned go to the other section of the unban/ban request forum.

Drama threads about servers in the general section of the forum are useless.

Also not directly related to this but pming me and trying to get me to force the server ops to unban you is not an option and will be ignored :wink:
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 06, 2011, 05:47:11 pm: I think the primary problem here is that they permanently banned us for no given reason, the round wasn't near over so there wasn't a duel to abide. At first, the only admins on were Bullet and Horns, and they didn't seem to mind us playing. TruthfulLies joined and decided he should ban us both in the middle of the round, probably because he's mad that we were going to fight for Druzhina instead of Haven in the very short battle (they retreated instantly.)

That leaves the question, can you permanently ban people just because you simply don't like them?
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 06, 2011, 05:54:27 pm: In private servers? Apparently yes.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Patricia on September 06, 2011, 06:18:08 pm: I for one am glad, I like low pop servers and I won't have to deal with plated charger heavy armor crossbow bundle of sticksry, it is a glorious day.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Bullet441 on September 06, 2011, 08:58:34 pm: I would like to apologize for the perma bans. I believe the bans came after the players were trolling (i.e. spewing curse words and random hate) at some of our clan members outside of the game, on Steam. Now, the reason I am apologizing is because you did nothing to troll other players in game, and the bans were not necessary. Some admins on the server do not understand the separation of the server from steam, but I also witnessed some of the trolling you were doing. You will be unbanned but you will be closely watched. We are waiting for when you start to troll players on the server rather than outside the game.

Also, to Beer, I enjoy playing with and against you on our server. I do not understand why you would want to boycott the server, but in response to your and other player's problems with the duel rule, I will be sure to update it to make it more clear.

And lastly, if any player has a problem with our server, be it certain rules or admins, please go ahead and visit our teamspeak to talk to us.
Address: 173.237.234.53 Port: 9990
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 06, 2011, 10:01:51 pm: Quote from: Bullet441 on September 06, 2011, 08:58:34 pm
(i.e. spewing curse words and random hate)

The only person I talked to was TruthfulLies, and I told him to not bitch at me and take it to our diplomatic manager, Relit. I only said this after he spent close to a half an hour of telling me that Haven is too powerful for us, and that he would destroy us, or accusing us of backstabbing. Aside from that, not much else was said from my part.

Also, I'd love to see your definition of "trolling" seeing as how a serious discussion of strategus is taken as trolling by Haven, yet coming into someone's teamspeak to scream "FACK MY CACK" is completely fine and not trolling in any way.

EDIT: More fun quotes from TruthfulLies

"FACK MY CACK DELTAH, FACK MY CACK!"

"Count your troops carefully ;)"

"We're too powerful for you!"

"The funny thing is, I know what's going to happen and you don't."

"We'll DESTROY YOU"

Going by your own terms, the above is trolling.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Male_Stripper on September 06, 2011, 11:19:52 pm: You guys were banned for trolling in logs, and riding around with plated chargers which horsebumped people leading to tks many times. We checking logs and found you (THk) recruiting while we closed the server to private recruiting. The ban was only one day and you are now unbanned, later problems will result in more serious consiquences, I warned many of you guys on steam about recruiting, and it still continued. Those quotes artyem posted were half bullshit, and half of me defending myself from when you guys were trolling me and saying shit to chaos in their TS, along with typing bad things about us after our strat battle yesterday. I had members telling me what you said and having other people come into my server telling me of what had happened, you conducted yourselves in an immature matter not only outside of our server but also in our server, this is typical to be seen from dracul and i am suprised that THk jumped in, who is lead by a former member of Haven which imo formed the clan to just be enemies with us and team up with dracul.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: nuffen on September 06, 2011, 11:21:41 pm: "(i.e. spewing curse words and random hate)"

What? You think THIS is spewing curse words and random hate? Man ,you gotta grow up, because the world is way too harsh for you to survive. I mean, even my kitten can more curse-words than in this post. And hate? Dude.. really?
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Bullet441 on September 06, 2011, 11:24:48 pm: Quote from: nuffen on September 06, 2011, 11:21:41 pm
"(i.e. spewing curse words and random hate)"

What? You think THIS is spewing curse words and random hate? Man ,you gotta grow up, because the world is way too harsh for you to survive. I mean, even my kitten can more curse-words than in this post. And hate? Dude.. really?

On Steam. STEAM. Please nuffen, read everything before responding. Thanks bud.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Male_Stripper on September 07, 2011, 12:13:40 am: Quote from: LionsCrest on September 06, 2011, 05:00:10 am
Let's work together and disconnect this server!

I am interested to see what happens when you get your own server and i join it, you are giving you and your clan a TERRIBLE reputation by posting on here and saying what you are. I hope you understand this.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 07, 2011, 12:33:23 am: Quote from: Bullet441 on September 06, 2011, 08:58:34 pm
I would like to apologize for the perma bans. I believe the bans came after the players were trolling (i.e. spewing curse words and random hate) at some of our clan members outside of the game, on Steam. Now, the reason I am apologizing is because you did nothing to troll other players in game, and the bans were not necessary. Some admins on the server do not understand the separation of the server from steam, but I also witnessed some of the trolling you were doing. You will be unbanned but you will be closely watched. We are waiting for when you start to troll players on the server rather than outside the game.

Also, to Beer, I enjoy playing with and against you on our server. I do not understand why you would want to boycott the server, but in response to your and other player's problems with the duel rule, I will be sure to update it to make it more clear.

And lastly, if any player has a problem with our server, be it certain rules or admins, please go ahead and visit our teamspeak to talk to us.
Address: 173.237.234.53 Port: 9990

I wasn't trolling i was simply playing the game and uookee asked if i would teach him how to feint better. So i agreed and asked for his steam. After that truthfulies comes along and perma bans arty and me. and i'll get more proof.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 07, 2011, 12:34:40 am: Quote from: Male_Stripper on September 07, 2011, 12:13:40 am
I am interested to see what happens when you get your own server and i join it, you are giving you and your clan a TERRIBLE reputation by posting on here and saying what you are. I hope you understand this.

I'm sorry you guys already have a bad rep if you're with haven. Haven't you heard? truthful came to chaos ts and trolled then got banned. And he retreated on strat battle before it even started. haha
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: LionsCrest on September 07, 2011, 12:37:45 am: Quote from: Male_Stripper on September 06, 2011, 11:19:52 pm
You guys were banned for trolling in logs, and riding around with plated chargers which horsebumped people leading to tks many times. We checking logs and found you (THk) recruiting while we closed the server to private recruiting. The ban was only one day and you are now unbanned, later problems will result in more serious consiquences, I warned many of you guys on steam about recruiting, and it still continued. Those quotes artyem posted were half bullshit, and half of me defending myself from when you guys were trolling me and saying shit to chaos in their TS, along with typing bad things about us after our strat battle yesterday. I had members telling me what you said and having other people come into my server telling me of what had happened, you conducted yourselves in an immature matter not only outside of our server but also in our server, this is typical to be seen from dracul and i am suprised that THk jumped in, who is lead by a former member of Haven which imo formed the clan to just be enemies with us and team up with dracul.

Truthful you turned your back on us. After katarn and sleinal joined you started hating my entire clan. When you were talking to katarn and saying how you were only being nice to be our allies i find that not very friendly. So i decided to become your enemy. After the strat battle that you retreated from we came to your server just to play and not say anything, out of no where we got permanently banned. And the plated charger build with crossbow. Yeah it was my build, The TKS were not on purpose plated chargers can be hard to maneuver.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 07, 2011, 01:22:49 am: I don't recall TKing one person from the plated chargers.

"Half bullshit" you said all of them, sorry if you don't remember.

Trolling you and saying shit to Chaos in their TS? You got banned from the Nditions teamspeak server for trolling the Chaos channel.

"Strategus battle" not much of a battle, you retreated as soon as it started.

When were we immature in your server? Out of your server? Proof please.

What did we say? Again, proof please.

You can keep your theories to yourself, THk was fine with you at first until you broke an alliance. Now, post some evidence or stop trolling our thread.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Darkkarma on September 07, 2011, 01:33:54 am: The Haven server? Isn't that the clan that is essentially a more trollish break off clan of Dracule? The same clan that had it's obviously young playerbase come into Nditions TS to openly admit and joke about how they wasted all of the defenders time by auto retreating every chance they got? Seeing this ban isn't too surprising. To be fair though, it is their server. I'm not sure if it's hooked up to the database, but given that there are a set of official and community servers with mostly fair and impartial admins, I wouldn't sweat it too much.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Castor on September 07, 2011, 01:47:43 am: what is this highschool?
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Post by: farthammer on September 07, 2011, 02:47:04 am: hway is have big fart OK or i be bans?
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Post by: Artyem on September 07, 2011, 05:40:45 am: Quote from: Castor on September 07, 2011, 01:47:43 am
what is this highschool?

Elementary, I never intended for a drama war, but it's what you get when you feed trolls I guess.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Sleinal on September 07, 2011, 07:45:35 am: At it again, abusing his admin.
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Post by: nuffen on September 07, 2011, 07:49:32 am: Quote from: Bullet441 on September 06, 2011, 11:24:48 pm
On Steam. STEAM. Please nuffen, read everything before responding. Thanks bud.

?
I was commenting how he called your post "i.e. spewing curse words and random hate", as there was nothing like that in ur post. Whats the relevanse with steam?
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on September 07, 2011, 12:13:54 pm: Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:43:42 am
So on some servers, you can be banned because someone dislikes how you play? I had no idea someone spilled Native admins into my cRGP.

Hah ive been banned more times than I can count, although usually by votes which doesnt last long.

Primalsmirk/Templar_Damugger/Pebble_Pusher.

Ive been banned on all these characters by vote and once even by an admin on some obscure server. I suppose people dont like stones being thrown at them.... :cry:
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 08, 2011, 01:00:04 am: Quote from: nuffen on September 07, 2011, 07:49:32 am
?
I was commenting how he called your post "i.e. spewing curse words and random hate", as there was nothing like that in ur post. Whats the relevanse with steam?

That's a part of what I quoted from him, you should have read his post.
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Jinxits on September 21, 2011, 07:32:28 am: Quote from: Castor on September 07, 2011, 01:47:43 am
what is this highschool?

I know this post is LATE but its Grade school. Not even at High school yet... Thank God I found a clan/Guild that is Not full of 15 year olds... You two boys just need to get together and have a little fist fight already... one of you needs a black eye...
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: dreadnok on September 22, 2011, 12:15:44 am: never understood duels on a battle server. go to duel. im with guys in ts that play on that server and always hear silly stuff
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Brrrak on September 22, 2011, 12:43:11 am: Fucks' sake, this thread is still on general discussion? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: Artyem on September 22, 2011, 12:47:42 am: Necromancers!
Title: Re: I would like to know if this is allowed.
Post by: MrShovelFace on September 22, 2011, 02:59:14 am: Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on September 06, 2011, 01:43:42 am
So on some servers, you can be banned because someone dislikes how you play? I had no idea someone spilled Native admins into my cRGP.

dont you remember the first australia server? :lol: