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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Hotpokka on September 04, 2011, 03:42:41 am

Title: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Hotpokka on September 04, 2011, 03:42:41 am
The Grosse Messer as it stands is a decent weapon. However when you compare it to other 1h weapons it just doesn't compare.

Grosse Messer
weapon length: 85
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 11
speed rating: 99
weapon length: 85
thrust damage: 19 pierce
swing damage: 34 cut
slots: 1
7,410

Langes Messer
weapon length: 92
weight: 1.8
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 92
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 33 cut
slots: 1
Secondary Mode
7,517

So you're sacrificing 1c and 1 speed for 7 range 4p and a secondary mode?

Arabian Cavalry Sword
weapon length: 105
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 19 pierce
swing damage: 33 cut
slots: 1
6,900


Again sacrificing 1c and 4 speed for a huge increase of 20 range.

Niuweidao
weapon length: 88
weight: 1.5
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 88
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 32 cut
slots: 1
6,058

Sacrificing 2c and a thrust for 3 more range, 2 more speed and $1400 less.


Military Cleaver
weapon length: 92
weight: 2.5
difficulty: 14
speed rating: 96
weapon length: 92
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 1
5,655

You get 1c and 7 more range in exchange for 3 less speed.
I think it should be buffed up to 21p and given a secondary mode, speeding it up would render the Italian Falchion useless. There are other weapons that need to be buffed but this is one that has stood out.
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Duster on September 04, 2011, 03:45:00 am
It's hard to see
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: D_the_Barbarian on September 04, 2011, 03:45:08 am
Grosse Messer is really good. It doesn't need a buff.
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Siiem on September 04, 2011, 03:46:34 am
Lol buff the grosse messer :lol:
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: MrShine on September 04, 2011, 04:50:28 am
Looks to me like grosse messer has the perks of speed and swing damage, but if you want more range or thrust damage you need to look elsewhere.

Hmm... I see no need to buff this weapon.  It's all about what matters to you/your build.
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Gorath on September 04, 2011, 06:47:31 am
Looks fine tbh.
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: El_Infante on September 04, 2011, 10:36:45 am
A buff on thrust damage would be nice. Something like 22p on stab. 19p is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: ThePoopy on September 04, 2011, 12:48:01 pm
buff to 102 speed cus its short
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on September 04, 2011, 02:53:00 pm
Quote from: El_Infante on September 04, 2011, 10:36:45 am
A buff on thrust damage would be nice. Something like 22p on stab. 19p is ridiculous.
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But to the topic. They seem quite balanced. There are some unbalances between top tier onehanders like Knightly Arming Sword and Nordic Champion's Sword, but I think the Messers seem relatively fine. Maybe decrease the price of the Grosses Messer a bit and/or a point more in damage somewhere.
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Eddy on September 04, 2011, 03:56:27 pm
i think its not under powered
but an little pirce buff would be nice or less rep costs
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Diomedes on September 04, 2011, 05:01:53 pm
Masterwork'd it hits like a charging moose and swings as fast as a mauling bear.  If it were buffed very much the masterwork'd form would be overpowered.
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: Jacko on September 04, 2011, 06:14:44 pm
Totally UP, buff the grosse messer!
Title: Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
Post by: justme on September 04, 2011, 06:22:23 pm
lets make all weapons to have same stats, then complaintment would stop..