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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Tomas on August 25, 2011, 03:09:36 pm

Title: Strategus idea
Post by: Tomas on August 25, 2011, 03:09:36 pm
The idea is twofold so please bare with me to get to the good bit

1)  First of all, all non factions members will need to request entry from the owning faction before being able to enter any fief.  Admission to neutral fiefs will be automatic.

2)  The good bit - once inside a fief you are then able to attack anybody else within that fief.

- Battles will consist of 10v10 max (the rest of your army if you have one is camped outside the walls).
- Battles will take place on town streets or inside taverns and will not use tickets (just 1 life each)
- You will not need to buy any weapons or armour for the fight.  Instead, all participants will get unlimited access to various items of clothing and 0 slot weapons. Its a brawl, so no real weapons or armour.
- Faction leaders and fief owners will be able to cancel any fight they want by chucking people out of the fief.  The brawls will only ever last a few mins so this shouldn't disrupt much although if people feel its unecessary it can be left out.
- Losers get transported and loose gold/troops like normal.

The idea of this is to give a method (albeit, a risky one) of removing people from neutral fiefs.  Its also a bit of fun and something different from standard Strat Battles.  The first bit is needed to stop randomers entering fiefs and fighting all the local faction members before they can get chucked out.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Blondin on August 25, 2011, 04:15:40 pm
Take the town if you want to kick ppl, this is a neutral place.
At first i liked your idea but if it's only to kick randomers i don't see the point, this feature already exist (you got to be owner ofc).
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Tomas on August 25, 2011, 05:39:27 pm
Quote from: Blondin on August 25, 2011, 04:15:40 pm
Take the town if you want to kick ppl, this is a neutral place.
At first i liked your idea but if it's only to kick randomers i don't see the point, this feature already exist (you got to be owner ofc).

well it also adds tavern brawls to the game and means people can't hide their huge armies in neutral towns/castles where they can't be attacked.  Just because somewhere is "neutral" doesn't mean its a safe haven for all.  Admittedly, my idea turns all neutral fiefs into Totuaga-esque pirate dens - but that's a lot more interesting than them all being like Switzerland  :mrgreen:

Also, not everybody has the 20k+ troops it takes to capture a Town.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Blondin on August 25, 2011, 06:29:33 pm
Yeah but clan can already kick ppl from village, where randomer/small clan will hide to not be pwn by bigger clans?
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: chadz on August 25, 2011, 06:50:41 pm
What is this, a creative idea? I'm surprised, haven't seen one in a long time.  :)

I must say I actually like the idea, apart from the loot, which would be op.

What could be cool:
when you are in a fief, you can initiate a fight vs anyone else. The attacker can set a certain gold value (from 10 to 1000) that both of you will bring to the fight. Everyone who is in the fief right now can join the fight on either side, everyone has to bring the same gold amount. No one can see who applied for what side :). After the fight, the loser(s) have to hand the gold over to the winner(s), and the losers will be kicked out of the fief for 24h.

Fight will take place in a tavern, and fists only, maybe a few beerkegs lying around to throw :)

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Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Erasmas on August 25, 2011, 07:20:06 pm
Quote from: chadz on August 25, 2011, 06:50:41 pm
What could be cool:
when you are in a fief, you can initiate a fight vs anyone else. The attacker can set a certain gold value (from 10 to 1000) that both of you will bring to the fight. Everyone who is in the fief right now can join the fight on either side, everyone has to bring the same gold amount. No one can see who applied for what side :). After the fight, the loser(s) have to hand the gold over to the winner(s), and the losers will be kicked out of the fief for 24h.

That sounds much better than in OP, I  really like it  :D
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Jarlek on August 25, 2011, 08:45:57 pm
Quote from: Erasmas on August 25, 2011, 07:20:06 pm
That sounds much better than in OP, I  really like it  :D
But he wouldn't have thought of it without OP so, THANK YOU OP :D
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 25, 2011, 09:29:24 pm
It's a very "rough" idea to be honest.  But I see some elements that would be pretty cool.  Kind of like a lord and his bodyguards walking around a village (he wouldn't necessarily have his 1000s of troops with him inside the village, they would most likely be camped outside).  This would be a prime place for an assassination or altercation to take place. 

I don't like the idea of losing all your troops or equipment, but maybe some/all money?  Just a thought.  There's certainly some value to the OP's suggestion, but would really need some refinement/expansion.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: PhantomZero on August 25, 2011, 09:31:21 pm
It would really suck to have my 10k army kicked out of the village because someone attacked me in a 10 v 10 naked-man fight. Please allow for people to refuse, what if the defender can't bring the attacker's requested gold amount?

This mostly just sounds like it would be cool for towns to host tournaments, where people could come and use their own equip and fight in the town's arena.

Yeah I'm not going to be walking around town with my 10k troops, but I wouldn't be walking around with 500k gold either.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 25, 2011, 09:37:04 pm
Quote from: PhantomZero on August 25, 2011, 09:31:21 pm
It would really suck to have my 10k army kicked out of the village because someone attacked me in a 10 v 10 naked-man fight. Please allow for people to refuse, what if the defender can't bring the attacker's requested gold amount?

This mostly just sounds like it would be cool for towns to host tournaments, where people could come and use their own equip and fight in the town's arena.

Yeah I'm not going to be walking around town with my 10k troops, but I wouldn't be walking around with 500k gold either.

Yeah I know, and I wouldn't want it to be a naked fight.  You'd have to have separate equipment just for the lord of the army and his bodyguards.  And like you say, you wouldn't carry 500k around if your person weren't in a secure location. 

That's why I say his original idea would need a lot of refinement for something like that to work.  But I can see some potential there.  I've unfortunately never watched game of thrones but from what my bro tells me a lot of the fighting took place in a town with one lord's bodyguards vs another lord's bodyguards.   You might command a great nation of people but if you get caught in the street with only 5 bodyguards vs another lord of a small village (or hit squad) and their 20 bodyguards, you're probably fucked. 

I'm just throwing ideas out of my ass to see if any stick, I'm not that creative so discount them at will.  What if you decided how many troops could enter a village/town with you and you had to pay taxes based on that?
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on August 25, 2011, 10:17:30 pm
Good idea, though it might crowd the Strategus battle schedules.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: PhantomZero on August 26, 2011, 12:03:24 am
Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on August 25, 2011, 09:37:04 pm
Yeah I know, and I wouldn't want it to be a naked fight.  You'd have to have separate equipment just for the lord of the army and his bodyguards.  And like you say, you wouldn't carry 500k around if your person weren't in a secure location. 

That's why I say his original idea would need a lot of refinement for something like that to work.  But I can see some potential there.  I've unfortunately never watched game of thrones but from what my bro tells me a lot of the fighting took place in a town with one lord's bodyguards vs another lord's bodyguards.   You might command a great nation of people but if you get caught in the street with only 5 bodyguards vs another lord of a small village (or hit squad) and their 20 bodyguards, you're probably fucked. 

I'm just throwing ideas out of my ass to see if any stick, I'm not that creative so discount them at will.  What if you decided how many troops could enter a village/town with you and you had to pay taxes based on that?

Pretty much what most of these suggestions are doing is directly opposite of what many people are suggesting in other threads. What would end up happening is there would be noone outside of the faction allowed in the fief, irregardless of how high the tax per hour was, for fear of spies and saboteurs.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Overdriven on August 26, 2011, 01:02:20 am
Quote from: PhantomZero on August 25, 2011, 09:31:21 pm
It would really suck to have my 10k army kicked out of the village because someone attacked me in a 10 v 10 naked-man fight. Please allow for people to refuse, what if the defender can't bring the attacker's requested gold amount?

This mostly just sounds like it would be cool for towns to host tournaments, where people could come and use their own equip and fight in the town's arena.

Yeah I'm not going to be walking around town with my 10k troops, but I wouldn't be walking around with 500k gold either.

I think there should be some system where if you are the lord of the fief. You can't be asked to fight in that fief, or at least you have permission to refuse. Everyone else, no though. That would solve the problem of people sitting with big armies in fiefs, their own fiefs, and getting kicked out. If you are the Lord, you make your lackies fight  :D
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Dehitay on August 26, 2011, 01:46:21 am
Quote from: chadz on August 25, 2011, 06:50:41 pm
What could be cool:
when you are in a fief, you can initiate a fight vs anyone else. The attacker can set a certain gold value (from 10 to 1000) that both of you will bring to the fight. Everyone who is in the fief right now can join the fight on either side, everyone has to bring the same gold amount. No one can see who applied for what side :). After the fight, the loser(s) have to hand the gold over to the winner(s), and the losers will be kicked out of the fief for 24h.
Deathmatch? This sounds like Deathmatch. Also, it might be a bit fun to leave a deal of crappy weapons (cudgels, tridents, stones, etc.) around that people can pick up and use.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: dynamike on August 26, 2011, 03:17:46 pm
Quote from: chadz on August 25, 2011, 06:50:41 pm
Of course, it's very low on the todo, so don't count on it anytime soon. However, it just made it on the nice-to-have list.

 :shock: The Elder Scrolls of chadzness - they exist! :shock:
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Jarlek on August 26, 2011, 07:10:59 pm
Quote from: dynamike on August 26, 2011, 03:17:46 pm

 :shock: The Elder Scrolls of chadzness - they exist! :shock:
WE MUST EMBARK ON A CRUSADE TO GET THESE HOLY RELICS! WHO ARE WITH ME? WHO WILL JOIN THE STRUGGLE OF THE CHURCH OF chadz?!?
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Tomas on August 26, 2011, 08:41:50 pm
Lol - I go away thinking "there's another idea to be buried on the forums and forgotten about" but to my amazement its been spotted by the man himself :D

My faith in forums is restored  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Braeden on August 26, 2011, 08:51:53 pm
Quote from: chadz on August 25, 2011, 06:50:41 pm
What is this, a creative idea? I'm surprised, haven't seen one in a long time.  :)

I must say I actually like the idea, apart from the loot, which would be op.

What could be cool:
when you are in a fief, you can initiate a fight vs anyone else. The attacker can set a certain gold value (from 10 to 1000) that both of you will bring to the fight. Everyone who is in the fief right now can join the fight on either side, everyone has to bring the same gold amount. No one can see who applied for what side :). After the fight, the loser(s) have to hand the gold over to the winner(s), and the losers will be kicked out of the fief for 24h.

Fight will take place in a tavern, and fists only, maybe a few beerkegs lying around to throw :)

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As long as there is an option to not go to taverns that don't let you bring your weapons, I'm in.
Title: Re: Strategus idea
Post by: Teeth on August 26, 2011, 11:23:13 pm
A tavern brawl, talk about awesomeness. Now we should just have the GTA 4 drunk effect when fighting. :wink: