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Title: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Bawlsack on August 22, 2011, 06:56:45 pm
Just wondering, Im sure i saw it in single player?
Im just wondering, If i was to pickup a second shield and have it on my back would it protect me from arrows and hits?
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Christo on August 22, 2011, 06:57:30 pm
It's altered here.

It won't protect you from melee attacks, or ranged attacks.

The shield will absorb 50% ranged damage, though, when you get shot in the back.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Oberyn on August 22, 2011, 06:59:54 pm
Pretty sure there's also a huge weight/speed penalty for having a second shield on your back.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Bawlsack on August 22, 2011, 07:05:08 pm
It's altered here.

It won't protect you from melee attacks, or ranged attacks.

The shield will absorb 50% ranged damage, though, when you get shot in the back.

Cool thanks :D
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Digglez on August 22, 2011, 07:06:34 pm
It's altered here.

It won't protect you from melee attacks, or ranged attacks.

The shield will absorb 50% ranged damage, though, when you get shot in the back.

stop making stuff up. and this is the wrong forum to be asking general info about the game.  this belongs in beginners guides

shield armor is added to your body armor when you are hit in the back by ranged
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Christo on August 22, 2011, 07:08:01 pm
stop making stuff up.

Oh sorry mister.

This was the information I knew about the subject.

I didn't make this up, this was widely accepted information.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Kafein on August 22, 2011, 07:13:02 pm
Diggles is rude but right.

The shield on your back just adds 50% of his armor value when you are hit in the body from behind you (not the head nor legs). It will never break because it doesn't get damaged that way.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Oberyn on August 22, 2011, 07:14:03 pm
Hmm is what I said about the weight/speed penalty right? I'm not sure anymore now.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Kafein on August 22, 2011, 07:16:19 pm
Hmm is what I said about the weight/speed penalty right? I'm not sure anymore now.

Yes it is. A shield still slows you down when sheathed (on your back). You may also note that bucklers don't protect when they are sheathed as they are shown on the side. Or it's bugged (I doubt this would be called a feature).
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Digglez on August 22, 2011, 07:17:22 pm
Hmm is what I said about the weight/speed penalty right? I'm not sure anymore now.

yes there is a speed penalty for having a shield, putting on your back doesnt lower or negate it.  speed penalty is something like 10-20% movement speed penalty or if I had to guess it multiples the weight of the shield by 2,3 or 4'ish?
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: IG_Saint on August 22, 2011, 07:22:26 pm
Oberyn was talking about having a second shield on the back. As far as I know there is an additional penalty for having 2 shields with you, more than would be the case if you used the same amount of weight in weapons.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Kafein on August 22, 2011, 07:26:29 pm
Oberyn was talking about having a second shield on the back. As far as I know there is an additional penalty for having 2 shields with you, more than would be the case if you used the same amount of weight in weapons.

I don't know the exact values, but my best rule of thumb is that having two shields is only viable if you are on horse, use a light shield then when you get dehorsed you drop it and take the heavy shield on your back, just like Phazh used to do (I don't know if he still plays like that). Having two shields on foot is more or less suicide, at least in battle mode.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Oberyn on August 22, 2011, 07:27:20 pm
yup, as in the total weight for both shields is more than just the addition of both. Man we really need to get someone to document this shit, if I hadn't seen most of it develop from early on I'd be totally surprised when someone tells me these seemingly random rules. Must suck for new players.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Phazey on August 22, 2011, 07:55:05 pm
I don't know the exact values, but my best rule of thumb is that having two shields is only viable if you are on horse, use a light shield then when you get dehorsed you drop it and take the heavy shield on your back, just like Phazh used to do (I don't know if he still plays like that). Having two shields on foot is more or less suicide, at least in battle mode.

Ssh, spreading my secrets around like it's common knowledge. Thankfully you didn't blab about my ninja 'sheathe sword - drop shield - unsheathe sword - select secondary shield from back' trick when my horse goes down.

Oh drat.  :rolleyes:

Never use a second shield on back on foot. It slows you down too much. But on a horse, it's viable, although a bit useless. I like it and i'll keep doing it, possibly because the 'sheath sword - drop shield' is a reflex i do every time my horse dies, even when i don't have the second shield on me...  :lol:
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Kafein on August 22, 2011, 08:02:21 pm
Ssh, spreading my secrets around like it's common knowledge. Thankfully you didn't blab about my ninja 'sheathe sword - drop shield - unsheathe sword - select secondary shield from back' trick when my horse goes down.

Oh drat.  :rolleyes:

Never use a second shield on back on foot. It slows you down too much. But on a horse, it's viable, although a bit useless. I like it and i'll keep doing it, possibly because the 'sheath sword - drop shield' is a reflex i do every time my horse dies, even when i don't have the second shield on me...  :lol:

Actually that sounds like the first thing I would turn into a macro if I had to do it.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Phazey on August 22, 2011, 08:04:13 pm
Yep and oddly enough, i never did. Ah well... it's not really needed tbh. I just tap sheathe weapon, drop weapon (drops shield when no weapon in hand), mousewheel down for my secondary shield and then up for my weapon.

One reason not to macro that is i can't do the whole thing fast enough. Sometimes i have to block after selecting shield. Sometimes i select my weapon first. It's situational.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Turkhammer on August 23, 2011, 01:46:29 am
yup, as in the total weight for both shields is more than just the addition of both. Man we really need to get someone to document this shit, if I hadn't seen most of it develop from early on I'd be totally surprised when someone tells me these seemingly random rules. Must suck for new players.

It does, but we're so ignorant we don't even know it sucks.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: cmp on August 23, 2011, 02:02:31 am
stop making stuff up. and this is the wrong forum to be asking general info about the game.  this belongs in beginners guides

shield armor is added to your body armor when you are hit in the back by ranged

stop making stuff up.

shield armor +10  is added to your body armor when you are hit in the back by ranged
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Cyclopsided on August 23, 2011, 03:24:42 am
stop making stuff up.

shield armor +10  is added to your body armor when you are hit in the back by ranged
Beat me to it D:!

Do you know the exact encumbrance increase for multiple shields? It is a pretty big penalty for carrying more than 1 shield is all I know.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: cmp on August 23, 2011, 06:38:59 am
Beat me to it D:!

Do you know the exact encumbrance increase for multiple shields? It is a pretty big penalty for carrying more than 1 shield is all I know.

Normal items and the first shield add their weight to the encumbrance value.
Additional shields add their weight + weight * 4 to the encumbrance value.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Deathwhisper on August 23, 2011, 11:29:21 am
stop making stuff up.

shield armor +10  is added to your body armor when you are hit in the back by ranged
   

Does the size of the shield on the back matter?
Does the ranged attack need to hit the shield in order to reduce the damage taken, or does it always work as long as the attack hits the back?
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: Polobow on August 23, 2011, 02:27:52 pm
   

Does the size of the shield on the back matter?
Does the ranged attack need to hit the shield in order to reduce the damage taken, or does it always work as long as the attack hits the back?

I wonder if the shield skill also increases the force field on your back.
Title: Re: Does having a shield on your back protect your back?
Post by: VVarlord on August 23, 2011, 02:54:07 pm
Wasnt there something about the steel buckler giving hip armour aswell?