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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Volos on August 14, 2011, 05:32:53 pm

Title: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 14, 2011, 05:32:53 pm
Make some flags and banners devs or whoever out there has some 3d game experience.

I know it can be done. You don't have to create a whole new thing just replace an item type like a polearm or something for a flag or banner.

Create a few medieval looking flags or banners of that era and add them to the sword or polearm category just as you did the siege shields and ladders to the throwing category.

Best thing would probably be to add it to the POLEARM category since the polearm blocks, especially the block where the polearm is vertical, looks just like someone is holding a flag or banner. Sometimes I walk with my pike in vertical block to get people to follow me, but it doesn't work, a FLAG would grab more attention.

Actually, DO put them in POLEARM only cause they can act like NON-SHEATHABLE items also, like polearms. They can't be sheathed and must be dropped when you switch to a sword or something. They can occupy 2 slots as well. Whichever position the polearm is, if you look at it in-game, is a general position for flag carrying anyway.

The only thing that would be a problem is an animation for the flag/banner movement. I don't think I've seen any item animations except for the bow and crossbow reloading animations. Can items have their own animation? Hmmmm, let us know cRPG devs. If not, then just create a static flag or banner with no animation but maybe it's slightly curve or wrinkled as though it seemed as if it had movement to it. As if the shape made it look dynamic.

Actually they don't even need to have animation to it, many flags back then were stiff and static anyway. Here's a great site that shows tons of medieval flag shapes that would need no additional animation to it:

http://donna.hrynkiw.net/sca/flags/

Just create some static flags and banners and add them to the polearm category and make some of thing heraldic, meaning that they can be like shields and take on the texture map or banner/insignia of the player. For example, if my character's herladic sign is the 3 BOARS then I can have the 3 BOARS on my SHIELDS and my FLAGS and BANNERS.

If you don't have anyone to make flags or banners, I might be able to do it. I used-to-could-worked in the 3d game online field. Long time ago, when Star Wars Galalxies just came out and rocked, Everquest was King and WoW was a wet-dream and hadn't even come out yet. Let me know, just need to get my hands on a 3d program like Maya. If you need shape ideas or artwork I can do that easily, just don't have any 3d modeling programs.

Imagine, people holding flags and shit and getting killed and you taking their flags and people leading people with flags!!!!  Maybe we can even make something for the samurai class and make those flags that they would have attached to their backs(that could be a 2h weapon attached on their backs).
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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Phalanx300 on August 14, 2011, 05:37:51 pm
A heraldry flag? Something like that would be great.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 14, 2011, 05:48:51 pm
Yes, for heraldry, army group flags, even formation and attack flags(flags that signal when to attack and form up).

Check out that website link I put on my post, it shows and explains flags of that era. Gonna find another site
that has more pics and post it again.

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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 14, 2011, 06:08:19 pm
If you look at the link in the post go to where it says FLAGS BY SHAPE so you can see the shapes and get an idea how they looked like.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 14, 2011, 06:14:06 pm
Okay, it's whithin the same link, but I want you to look at these simple flag shapes that can be done
very easily. They're basic flag shapes we can start with.

Look at:

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and 470 is doable.

Don't need to do the streamy fluttery flags that flutter in the wind.

RICK JAMES BITCH!
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 14, 2011, 06:15:42 pm
shit, forgot the link:

http://donna.hrynkiw.net/sca/flags/norris.html

it's the same as the previous but it's from it's link web sources area on the bottom.

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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 15, 2011, 02:15:43 am
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This is what I mean by flags and banners. It should be doable. If you can mess with weapons and items in terms of 3d modeling and put them back into the game, then it should be easy to put a square, rectangular or triangle flat polygon on a polearm and make it a flag or banner. Then place them in the polearm category of items and have people
buy them and equipt them just like a polearm. Kind of like how siege ladders and siege shields are in the "throwing" item category.

Read my previous posts to this reply and this post and its replies and posts lol.

Hope these pictures show up so everyone can see what I'm talking about.

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Hope these pics show. And read my original post to understand the whole thing. It's doable I know it is.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Digglez on August 15, 2011, 03:42:12 am
if mount and muskett can do it, crpg should have it.  would be nice if they were 0 slot non-combat capable

hell remove ashwood pike and add in ASHWOOD PIKE BANNER!
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Post by: Tavuk_Bey on August 15, 2011, 12:29:30 pm
yes add those tattered banners and bloody flags!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RuFL1Hj-s

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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 16, 2011, 01:20:19 am
Whoa! I just yahooed what you said about Mount and Musket and I thought it was a rip off of Mount and Blade but it's actually a Napolenic mod for Mount and Blade Warband.
I saw their screenshots, the flags look pretty fresh(90s slang for cooool) and they seem to be mounted on pikes or something.

As you can see boys and girls the dude holding the flag is holding it(probably holding a pike modded flag) in a vertical/sideways block in order to hold it upright, so it's definitely doable if put in the polearm category.

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Damn this formation looks awesome. WISH SOME PEOPLE IN GAME WOULD LISTEN WHEN PEOPLE SAY "FORM UP"!
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WOW! If the devs make it cRPG more and more medieval and realistic looking then we can have a really huge following and I wouldn't mind paying a bit of money monthly if I'd be able to play HUGE battles that looked and felt realistic.

There's lots of things people ask for that are not feasable game-wise but some, like FLAGS, are definitely doable.

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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 16, 2011, 01:26:25 am
FUDGE my pics didn't show, I think these are the correct URLs for them. Hope they show.

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There's my formation I'd like to see in our game.

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Think someone mentioned bowman pikes to put on ground in another Post. Found a pic of it at Mount and Musket also.

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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Aleskander on August 16, 2011, 02:47:16 am
Having some good looking but weak armor that goes with the banners as well. Make them cheap as well, so peasants can have something to do besides throw rocks and suicide charge. Another option would be to make them 0 slot items. I would like to see some Arabian themed ones as well, so not just European knights can wave their metaphorical dicks around.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 16, 2011, 04:23:55 am
Almost forgot. Yes Eastern flags would be great too.

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Japanese flags attached to back would have to be either 2h weapon on the back upside down or it can be attached to "special samuria armor". Doesn't have to be special just it's part of the armor so when you put on the armor the attached flag is on the back of the armor kind of like the "winged" Polish armor in Mount and Blade Fire and Sword.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: pecores_timotheysnow on August 16, 2011, 06:52:47 am
or this? which are already done...and can give real gameplay experience for the players


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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: pecores_timotheysnow on August 16, 2011, 06:55:39 am
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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 16, 2011, 05:27:27 pm
Are those 2 screenshots from Mount and Blade or M&N Warband? Or is that a mod? Where did those come from Timothy?

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Actually the flags I had in mind are more simple than that hanging banner thingy that looks like a cross with a flag hanging down.
I thought something like that would be more harder to do cause it would require a few pieces(in 3d terms) but yeah that ones from
the screenshots are excellent. And also the one flag image on your next reply is good too.

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THere's lots of simple designs that will be easy to do and are doable in terms of putting them in the game. They just have to be incorporated into the polearm category.

It will definitely bring more into the game. People might actually rally around people's flags and stuff and CLAN MEMBERS that are alway running around like chickens with
their heads cut off in-game can actually group together under their CLAN FLAG. I'd group with them even though I wasn't in their clan but it'll a point on the field where I'd rally
with my team.

And that's another thing. In battle, in those times, your flag and your enemy's flag distinguished where each other's sides were and if you held a certain area. In our cRPG games you can't tell what's going on unless you squint your eyes and follow people with that little circle thingy above their heads and sometimes you can't tell from far away.

And, I'm pretty sure there might be some people who are running around without that "friendly banner" circle thing not checked in their options and can't tell friend from foe.

Spread the word about this post Timothy from Pecores Clan and everyone else who've replied to it. This is a doable thing if more people read it. I've read other posts and there's hundreds of people replying to them but nothing will happpen with those suggestions cause their not doable in terms of the game's capabilities. This is. I know, I used to work in the game industry and can tell right away how the game functions and if certain suggestions are doable or not.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: ToxicKilla on August 16, 2011, 05:47:42 pm
The flags in 1257 look great, even though they don't flap, because they have a rib type thing at the top. They are heraldic, too.
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And with 2h animations the flag is always held up-right. Polearm animation wouldn't look as good, to be honest.
In 1257 there are also lances with little flags on the side which look epic and would be great for leading cavalry with.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 16, 2011, 10:21:21 pm
I'm guessing 1257 is a mod too? Wow so many mods.

That flag type would be great and no animation needed. It's perfect if it's static, it just needs to look like a flag.
I would love to see little flags on lances and such.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: ToxicKilla on August 17, 2011, 02:54:06 pm
Quote from: Volos on August 16, 2011, 10:21:21 pm
I'm guessing 1257 is a mod too? Wow so many mods.

That flag type would be great and no animation needed. It's perfect if it's static, it just needs to look like a flag.
I would love to see little flags on lances and such.
Aye, 'tis a mod.
A very good mod at that, that picture is of my little army of around 100 men. :D
I will try get a picture of a lance with a flag on if I can. Seriously I don't know why the devs don't add stuff like this...

Edit:
Heraldic lance:
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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 17, 2011, 08:03:32 pm
Gaaahhh! Those flags on the lances look AWESOME! Stuff like that and the flags from the Napoleonic Mod is what we need to make this game more serious.

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I don't think any cRPG have viewed this post, I think only players view it. We need to get the attention of the devs cause they're too busy with their regular jobs and when it comes to cRPG they're probably too busy with CODE and game BUGS and WEBSITE maitenance.

There's tons of serious online players that would love to play this game but haven't discovered it yet. I just happen to chance upon it and I think cRPG can be HUGE if it just gets serious about making the gameplay more medieval and less like a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER, like Black Ops. This game and cRPG could be so much more.

Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on August 17, 2011, 10:56:12 pm
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SOUUURCE :D What mod is this? i really want to play it :D
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: ToxicKilla on August 18, 2011, 12:20:25 pm
Quote from: Zapper on August 17, 2011, 10:56:12 pm
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SOUUURCE :D What mod is this? i really want to play it :D
I believe that is 1257.

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 Stuff like that and the flags from the Napoleonic Mod
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Nah, those flags look rubbish because they don't flap. Wrong era too.
I think the ones from 1257 are perfect.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on August 18, 2011, 08:05:42 pm
Quote from: ToxicKilla on August 18, 2011, 12:20:25 pm
I believe that is 1257.
Nah, those flags look rubbish because they don't flap. Wrong era too.
I think the ones from 1257 are perfect.
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Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Volos on August 23, 2011, 01:16:26 am
Wow, suggestions get buried if no one replies to one after a while. So I'm replying to bring this shit back up top.
Read my post guys, it's a doable idea and I'm sure people would love to see it come to fruition.

I've been reading lots of other suggestions and most of them are not doable programming and gaming-wise, but my post
is because it's been done on other Warband mods and it would surely be welcomed here and would give and extra dimension to
our gameplay.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Christo on August 23, 2011, 02:02:05 am
I'd love this.

Also I'll download this 1257 mod.

Native SP is crap. I need a good mod u.u
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: LordSnow on January 01, 2012, 11:07:55 pm
What about this?
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: Ohayashi on January 02, 2012, 02:28:34 am
Quote from: Volos on August 16, 2011, 04:23:55 am

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Japanese flags attached to back would have to be either 2h weapon on the back upside down or it can be attached to "special samuria armor".

"Sashimono", the name of those back-banners. I would love to see a "Heraldic Strange" with a Sashimono. Western banners and lance-flags would be excellent as well, of course. I truly cannot think of anything detrimental about this idea.
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: dodnet on January 02, 2012, 03:30:42 pm
If you're on the way add the musicians from mount & musket too. Its fucking amazing to have guys playing bagpipes and drums in the background. Ofc it should be some medieval thing like horns.

Some flags in Mount&Musket in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7acWOgSUnk
Title: Re: FLAGS AND BANNERS!!!!!
Post by: LordSnow on January 02, 2012, 08:17:47 pm
I dont know why dev dont want to implement it..