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Title: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 04:31:43 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Blondin on August 03, 2011, 04:44:45 pm
I hope that this crusade will end better than the last one...
Kapilulu is not 22nd, though.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 04:47:01 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Rikthor on August 03, 2011, 04:55:39 pm
Wouldn't this be the 2nd Crusade for Acre since this round of strategus started or the first under your command?
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Casimir on August 03, 2011, 04:59:12 pm
GOD WILLS IT!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 04:59:26 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2011, 05:07:55 pm
Now THIS is a cool declaration of war in proper RP fashion, super kudos!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 05:08:37 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Blondin on August 03, 2011, 05:13:15 pm
22nd, who crusades them? They have some of the best fighters ive seen...

It was in ancient times (old strat), 22nd was in the south (irc teeritory at that time), and dunno why but Growl, leader of the Templars launch a crusade against 22nd.
22nd was crushed, all their troops erased from the map.
But it was a big mistake from Templars, leading to their fall, in fact 22nd had russian friends.
22nd retaliate and erased Templars from old strat map.
At that time Templar was the biggest clan of cRPG, this mistake costed them too much, and now their past glory is only from legend.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 05:16:24 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Spawny on August 03, 2011, 05:19:11 pm
It was in ancient times (old strat), 22nd was in the south (irc teeritory at that time), and dunno why but Growl, leader of the Templars launch a crusade against 22nd.
22nd was crushed, all their troops erased from the map.
But it was a big mistake from Templars, leading to their fall, in fact 22nd had russian friends.
22nd retaliate and erased Templars from old strat map.
At that time Templar was the biggest clan of cRPG, this mistake costed them too much, and now their past glory is only from legend.

But it was a big mistake from Templars, leading to their fall, in fact 22nd had russian friends.
22nd retaliate and erased Templars from old strat map.
At that time Templar was the biggest clan of cRPG, this mistake costed them too much, and now their past glory is only from legend.

At that time Templar was the biggest clan of cRPG, this mistake costed them too much, and now their past glory is only from legend.

Templar glory is only from legend.

Fuck yeah! I'm a legend!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SPQR on August 03, 2011, 05:42:22 pm
So who are the combatants on each side?

Sorry, I try to keep up on the goings-on in strategus but its hard to keep track of who is allied to who and so forth.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 05:43:18 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on August 03, 2011, 05:53:44 pm
Yep, this is very much the 2nd crusade.
Though of course perhaps it may be the first successful one  :twisted:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SPQR on August 03, 2011, 05:55:49 pm
Oh ok, so is the camelscreamer battle un-related to this then?
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on August 03, 2011, 05:59:52 pm
Yep, this is very much the 2nd crusade.
Though of course perhaps it may be the first successful one  :twisted:

Don't rewrite history because finaly you were the vanquisher, if i remember well Templars crusade was a success, it turn into a complete fail afterward...  :wink:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Gnjus on August 03, 2011, 06:00:29 pm
If we would be granted a pardon from God and have all our sins forgiven then yes, Bandits will join the slaughterhouse.  :wink:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on August 03, 2011, 06:04:22 pm
Don't rewrite history because finaly you were the vanquisher, if i remember well Templars crusade was a success, it turn into a complete fail afterward...  :wink:

The war never ended until we made a peace agreement with the Templars towards the end of old strat, after our victory. Just because they assumed they had beaten us into nothing was their idiotic mistake.

We abandoned our village fiefs in the desert with all we could carry leaving behind only a skeleton force and taking the bulk of our forces over to our allies lands. We never intended to hold there against them. No shit they pushed us out the desert, we left by ourselves, to come back and fight on our own terms.

Learn2history. Anyway this is not the topic, if you wanna dispute the finer points of 22nd history go make a thread for it.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on August 03, 2011, 06:08:29 pm
The war never ended until we made a peace agreement with the Templars towards the end of old strat, after our victory. Just because they assumed they had beaten us into nothing was their idiotic mistake.

We abandoned our village fiefs in the desert with all we could carry leaving behind only a skeleton force and taking the bulk of our forces over to our allies lands. We never intended to hold there against them. No shit they pushed us out the desert, we left by ourselves, to come back and fight on our own terms.

Learn2history. Anyway this is not the topic, if you wanna dispute the finer points of 22nd history go make a thread for it.

Dude you're too serious...

(if i'm serious as you i could tell you that a crusade is set to liberate lands, which mean templar crusade was a success)
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2011, 06:19:55 pm
If we would be granted a pardon from God and have all our sins forgiven then yes, Bandits will join the slaughterhouse.  :wink:

It is said that for every man you slay, a sin is pardoned...

So each bandit should join the crusade, as if you each kill a few ten thousand people then your sins will be cleansed!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Goretooth on August 03, 2011, 06:22:43 pm
History? Didnt they change their stats got caught and servet got removed?
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on August 03, 2011, 06:25:21 pm
I am pretty sure Loki that the purpose of a crusade is defined by the crusaders.

After all this Acre crusade (notice on topic) has the purpose of defending Acre claims from Kapikulu incursion, not liberating the Kapikulu lands (according to the op at least). Which ironically makes it very similar to a Medieval Total War 2 Jihad ;)


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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: LordBerenger on August 03, 2011, 06:29:21 pm
Seriously lol GG.

It's alot of clans (probably, prolly crusader ones) vs poor Kapikulu. You know nobody else will support Kapikulu vs the crusaders lol.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2011, 06:40:15 pm
With the bloodbath in the desert, the rest of the map looks like just a small skirmish and borderclash period of history.

Is there something amazing about the desert besides it being cool, or did it just happen to attract all of the bloodthirsty clans?  :lol:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SPQR on August 03, 2011, 06:48:20 pm
With the bloodbath in the desert, the rest of the map looks like just a small skirmish and borderclash period of history.

Is there something amazing about the desert besides it being cool, or did it just happen to attract all of the bloodthirsty clans?  :lol:

I think it has something to do with the desert being the last place to be completely claimed in old strategus along with a lot of territory changing hands there during its history. That left very few iron claims to the area so a lot of new clans have flocked there to try and find a place in the sun.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Violent on August 03, 2011, 06:50:24 pm
The only hitch is that the Goon war machine was sleeping in the desert.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Timotheusthereal on August 03, 2011, 07:02:31 pm
Oh ok, so is the camelscreamer battle un-related to this then?

Yes
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Goretooth on August 03, 2011, 07:17:09 pm
Lack of knowledge? Seems I was right thanks
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 07:24:41 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 03, 2011, 07:26:29 pm
1 hour and a half, is all it took before this thread turned into a debate and troll against others.

New record set.

I think Aldryk said it best for what Strat does to people...
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 03, 2011, 07:29:57 pm
If we would be granted a pardon from God and have all our sins forgiven then yes, Bandits will join the slaughterhouse.  :wink:

Then come brother and cleanse your sins, for in the Holy Land is redemption succeded
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Cicero on August 04, 2011, 12:37:06 am
Jihad will join to kill these false muslims!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Akincibegi on August 04, 2011, 01:18:32 am
Jihad will join to kill these false muslims!
:shock:  :cry:  :evil:  :twisted:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Cicero on August 04, 2011, 01:29:35 am
:shock:  :cry:  :evil:  :twisted:
:rolleyes: :shock: :o :lol:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Shogunate_Subotai_III on August 04, 2011, 01:42:02 am
Jihad will join to kill these false muslims!

Infidel! on holy Ramazan you should not kill people!

 :lol: :P 8-) :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Miralay on August 04, 2011, 01:48:19 am
Lololo in the first crusade of 2nd Strat a Turkish clan joins the side of Christian knights to kill another Turkish clan. Wrong logic RP ftw  :D
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Cicero on August 04, 2011, 02:37:34 am
Lololo in the first crusade of 2nd Strat a Turkish clan joins the side of Christian knights to kill another Turkish clan. Wrong logic RP ftw  :D
We are bashibazouks and we are true islam which they are not.Did u know any fallen muslims ? wrong iq ftw! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Kokosz on August 04, 2011, 02:58:32 am
"War was the last thing we wanted"...So what do you want to do in this game?A needle-crafting?

BTW: Im going to help Kapikulu in this war.Everyone in GO are gratitude to you guys for your brave/stiupid move (first siege).
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Baggy on August 04, 2011, 07:51:21 am
Every DoW thread needs this to be posted at least once.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSFIWzi7aA&feature=related
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Teeth on August 04, 2011, 10:56:53 am
For proper historical RP the crusading armies should fall apart when their leader drowns when crossing a river.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 04, 2011, 11:05:55 am
sorry, we can't do that, no drowing in c-rpg!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Vibe on August 04, 2011, 11:10:14 am
sorry, we can't do that, no drowing in c-rpg!

True, we are all scubadivers!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Miralay on August 04, 2011, 11:13:47 am
Haha it's better than buying swimming skill and drowning Vibe  :P
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Vibe on August 04, 2011, 11:17:23 am
Haha it's better than buying swimming skill and drowning Vibe  :P

I do love games where swimming equals dying
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: LordBerenger on August 04, 2011, 11:25:44 am
Meh let Acre , Templars and HRE join.

And then HREs leader will drown and they will have to go back to their fiefs and have funeral.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Miralay on August 04, 2011, 11:28:02 am
Anyway I find that true "Islam" clan and Crusader Knights fighting at the same side against Turks is pretty funny (and a total fail RP) so if defense accepts, I'll fight against this comedy coaliton  :lol:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 04, 2011, 11:28:08 am
Need to leaveeeee thiiissss hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVCeI

I was originally putting this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiTDLB11EY&feature=related
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Dede on August 04, 2011, 12:08:18 pm
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Now roleplay is over.

The Kapikulus planned to attack our village, take our land and attack our armies, we cannot let this go unpunished. So this is an official declaration of war, and we ask our allies to help us in fighting against the enemy.

War was the last thing we wanted, yet it has come to this. Good luck to both factions, may the fights be few, but may they be glorious.

You are still roleplaying the bad guy and your hole thread is Trololol nonsense. If we had planned it, Unriya would not be in your possession right now.
Why should we besiege "Bardaq Castle" if we had the intention to attack an easier target(Acre villages). Does this make any sense?
If we wanted, Of course we could drive out your clan from the desert, but we have kept our agreement and your not.



The truth:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,12468.0.html
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« Sent to: Timotheusthereal on: July 24, 2011, 22:15:04 »
Well, we already have NAP with Camels and SoA. We'll let you get Unriya and we want nothing. We only want respect for our claims Bardaq Castle, Fishara, Iqybayl, Barriye. We also want a NAP with you if you agree? We only want our claims and nothing more, we'll no harm you. Respect your war with LLJK.

Sultan

Timotheusthereal

« Sent to: Sultan Eren on: July 25, 2011, 19:49:25 »
Agreed!

*shaking hands*


Although we have been fighting against the Bandits as Kapikulu, I must mention that the Bandits were honorable opponents.
Maybe you guys should exchange with Gjnus your clan name. I just hope that other factions now know that they can not trust your Clan.

Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Miralay on August 04, 2011, 12:46:25 pm
You know first crusade was called upon 22nd because they were using glitches during Strat battles (at least that's what Templars said before attacking).

Now Gnjus said this:

LoL youre still on about that ? You sneak attacked me (not that we had any objectives to that, it comes with the life of a bandit) which makes you kinda same as those who "backstabb" you. You got my village thx to a bug and you got your 5000 troops to attack that Castle thx to an ever bigger bug. My "road" has nothing to do with Turks lol, and your silly "claims"....you already know where you can stick 'em but ill tell you once more just in case: up your arse.  :wink:
You're gonna get your asses wiped out of the desert and I'm gonna sit back and enjoy watching it. And in some 2.0 version of strat, bug free and all that, I'm gonna be looking for you miserable "claim" worshipers and show you how its done without any bugs to help me, and I'll do it in the evening between your prayers, not in 5 AM.  :wink:

I'm pretty sure he's telling truth, tbh you don't have enough fiefs/resources to both have a 5k army and gold to equip it. I don't think you're in a position to question another clan's honor, because you've used a huge Strat bug. Any faction can cancel or change any previous deals with you because of this (it's like giving a casus belli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casus_belli) to every clan out there). You should have seen this.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Gnjus on August 04, 2011, 12:55:43 pm
Now now, please don't miss-understand my posts: i still think that Sultan Eren, Batal Gazi & Dede are decent chaps, at least they tried to talk like honorable men (and unlike some others they didn't lie to me on TS and change their minds every day), its just that i don't believe in that "claims" business. Also, the spawn point bug is not their fault so i don't blame them for it (sneaky 5 AM attack was dirty too but meh, its a game after all), but if they DID abuse the troops bug (and i was told so) then its their fault but it has nothing to do with Bandits, when that happened we were already long gone from the desert.
The post from OttomanSniper tho was totally uncalled for and thus i replied. After all this I'll still enjoy seeing them wiped.  :wink:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on August 04, 2011, 01:26:31 pm
You know first crusade was called upon 22nd because they were using glitches during Strat battles (at least that's what Templars said before attacking).



Yep, the very same glitches every other faction took advantage in the many sieges that took place previously. Including Templars, and that was battle* because he decided this solely after the siege of Durquba. He claimed I personally was an "evil leader" for allowing it to happen but I was not even present for 90% of that fight as that night my internet decided to break horribly. Funny how he did not object to all the large powerful factions doing the exact same things...

Once again I suggest a "Lets dig up old dirt on the 22nd thread" if so many people wish to discuss these things. They really are not topical you know.

Personally I think he was just clutching at straws for any excuse and thought we would be an easy target for some odd reason.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on August 04, 2011, 01:35:14 pm
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Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Overdriven on August 04, 2011, 02:33:57 pm
Just my view on this:

Acre attacked right after The Turks lost a lot of men in a siege. Seems like you have a crappy excuse with no real backing for it to.

I'm with the The Turks on this one. They deserve recognition for being the first to summon the balls to attack a castle and the fact is they are now having to defend land against a clan who are obviously taking advantage (can't blame you really, I would do the same). Just admit what you are doing rather than try and come out with some very loose reasons for it.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Gnjus on August 04, 2011, 03:00:26 pm
They deserve recognition for being the first to summon the balls to attack a castle

More then summoning the balls they deserve some kind of "recognition" for "summoning" those 5500 troops. Much larger clans who didn't even have a single battle vs anyone else then AI villages (and they own more then just 2) still don't have that much (i don't see any Castle attacks happening, maybe the site isn't showing them ?) but the Turks managed to "summon" 'em up with 2 villages and after 2 or 3 battles vs the Bandits and 1 vs AI (where they lost some tickets as well) ? If everything is regular here then we all just need to bow down to them and admire their skills from now on to eternity.  :wink:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Overdriven on August 04, 2011, 03:02:59 pm
More then summoning the balls they deserve some kind of "recognition" for "summoning" those 5500 troops. Much larger clans who didn't even have a single battle vs anyone else then AI villages (and they own more then just 2) still don't have that much (i don't see any Castle attacks happening, maybe the site isn't showing them ?) but the Turks managed to "summon" 'em up with 2 villages and after 2 or 3 battles vs the Bandits and 1 vs AI (where they lost some tickets as well) ? If everything is regular here then we all just need to bow down to them and admire their skills from now on to eternity.  :wink:

In all fairness GK are recruiting from 2 villages and have roughly the same number of troops (no exact numbers coming  :P ). It's not that difficult if you manage things properly. So yes, I believe they deserve that recognition.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Gnjus on August 04, 2011, 03:09:43 pm
In all fairness GK are recruiting from 2 villages and have roughly the same number of troops (no exact numbers coming  :P ). It's not that difficult if you manage things properly. So yes, I believe they deserve that recognition.

Yes, but there is a big difference: after the fights vs Bandits they had like 500 troops left. At that moment GK had like 2000. Then Turks attacked Iqbayl and lost some more men there. Few days later they're on 4k troops. Quite a recruiting skills, i must admit.  :wink:
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Casimir on August 04, 2011, 04:39:11 pm
Yep, the very same glitches every other faction took advantage in the many sieges that took place previously. Including Templars, and that was battle* because he decided this solely after the siege of Durquba. He claimed I personally was an "evil leader" for allowing it to happen but I was not even present for 90% of that fight as that night my internet decided to break horribly. Funny how he did not object to all the large powerful factions doing the exact same things...

Once again I suggest a "Lets dig up old dirt on the 22nd thread" if so many people wish to discuss these things. They really are not topical you know.

Personally I think he was just clutching at straws for any excuse and thought we would be an easy target for some odd reason.

Heritics! Heritics everwhere!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Temudjin on August 04, 2011, 06:38:34 pm
I go with what Overdriven said
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Argoth on August 05, 2011, 02:28:17 am
Kill them damned varricians (muslims)
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: The_Angle on August 05, 2011, 03:47:01 am
I don't want to make any enemies but apparently attacking a castle/town under-prepared means you have balls. Sounds like suicide to me. Again not criticising the Turks, anybody could have made the same mistake.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Osiris on August 08, 2011, 02:52:36 am
Plazek you said the goal of a crusade was set by the crusaders.

We templars set the goal of taking your villages we did that...
then you go and say our crusade failed because you regrouped :D


make your mind up son!
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: Dunecat on August 08, 2011, 05:44:14 am
Plazek you said the goal of a crusade was set by the crusaders.

We templars set the goal of taking your villages we did that...
then you go and say our crusade failed because you regrouped :D


make your mind up son!
Failed or not, I think you agree, in a longer run, it was a great mistake.
Title: Re: The First Crusade
Post by: The_Angle on August 08, 2011, 06:09:28 am
Anyway I find that true "Islam" clan and Crusader Knights fighting at the same side against Turks is pretty funny (and a total fail RP) so if defense accepts, I'll fight against this comedy coaliton  :lol:
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