well, believe me, xbowing isnt sooooooo good anymore. Well I had similar problem with my heirlooming. I could heirloom heavy xbow, plate armor, war hammer or grosse messer. I came to the conclusion that it is worth the most to heirloom grosse messer cose no matter wht class I will play after heirloom I will always use 1h sword (not hammer cose there isnt so much plates around anymore so +1 for cutting dmg). I would suggest u to heirloom a weapon that u can use in most of ur builds.wat
wat*sees 7 out of 10kills being melee related.
i mean this
http://img1.imagilive.com/0111/gratzcrpgisretardednow.jpg
seriously?
*sees 7 out of 10kills being melee related.
Oh yeah darn archers are everywhere and kiling everyone!
I would suggest u to heirloom a weapon that u can use in most of ur builds.
Like a pack of stones!
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Not counting the tk there are 2 kills with range...so what is he talking about here?
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Not counting the tk there are 2 kills with range...so what is he talking about here?
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Not counting the tk there are 2 kills with range...so what is he talking about here?
*sees 7 out of 10kills being melee related.
Oh yeah darn archers are everywhere and kiling everyone!
Doesn that kind of prove the opposite point. You have half the players there as archers and most of the kills are melee. Archers are support troops disrupting enemy melee fighters to help their own melee fighters, but they have been nerfed so much they rarely kill unless headshots. As a melee fighter its kind of lame to expect that their should be absolutely no ranged so you can play a hack and fest (go play doom 1,2 or 3 or duke nukem and use the chainsaw) with no need for spatial awareness and team work to make sure youa r enot attacked form behind with arrows or by other enemy melee. The chart toppers are even more consistently 2hers and polearmers so what else are you demanding that archers arrows somehow dont even disrupt your attack and somehow float through the air like soap bubbles as a pretty abckground? Stop complaining and give an exact description of what exactly needs to be done (most likely not needed but at least it gives something constructive to counterargue rather than some vague "ranged is too good").lol
lol
i wanna play a game where skill matters, warband melee is amazing because it takes the most skill out of any game i ever played, archery ruins it because anybody whos bad at the game can play an archer and zerg down any player whos already fighting someone else.
i dont care what is done, just fucking nerf it, its annoying to get close to someone, pull out your shield and get insta shot by 6 different archers every fucking rounds.
a big damage reduction would be awesome, a speed nerf would help, an accuracy nerf would be terrible, making upkeep cost less could also indirectly help (melee focused with 5 IF getting 2 shotted is REALLY fun)
the thing i HATE about archery is the fact that any retard can point and shoot and kill anyone and they cant do shit about it unless they are an archer themselves. i hate everything that removes skill, i hated magic in darkfall, i hate archery in warband, i hate variance in poker, get it?
what im saying is theres so many of them its getting retarded, and the real life comment made me laugh, just saying
Archery is part of the game. It seems to me, what you are suggesting here is that if six (COUNT EM, SIX!) archers simultaneously target AND hit you, it should have little or no effect and you should be able to continue attacking the enemy you just went after?
What you really want is to remove archery from the game. That's pathetic, not very conducive to balance, and it won't happen.
P.S., everyone hated archers in real life too, get over it.
Well, of course you can play archer while laying in bed and still have some hits. I did. But you will find out as long you are low level its not that easy any more. Every higher level archer will shoot you. Throwers will spam you. Not to forget back-stabbing cavalry. Ninjas. These days, its opened season on archers.
If I might give you some advice, start with only power draw 3.
A lot of people make the mistake to get power draw as high as possible, doesnt work.
Start with 3, when its okay for you, then 4, then, perhaps 5, under no circumstances go higher than 6.
Well, of course you can play archer while laying in bed and still have some hits. I did. But you will find out as long you are low level its not that easy any more. Every higher level archer will shoot you. Throwers will spam you. Not to forget back-stabbing cavalry. Ninjas. These days, its opened season on archers.
If I might give you some advice, start with only power draw 3.
A lot of people make the mistake to get power draw as high as possible, doesnt work.
Start with 3, when its okay for you, then 4, then, perhaps 5, under no circumstances go higher than 6.
but they have been nerfed so much they rarely kill unless headshots.
7 pd, 6 weaponmaster all in archery (154) (8 converted skill points) and went 6-0, it is highly effective because I would say 2/3rds were one-shot kills
Used my khergit bow the next round, actually enjoyed it more and got 3 kills before dying (had to shoot people twice at least)
lol
i wanna play a game where skill matters, warband melee is amazing because it takes the most skill out of any game i ever played, archery ruins it because anybody whos bad at the game can play an archer and zerg down any player whos already fighting someone else.
i dont care what is done, just fucking nerf it, its annoying to get close to someone, pull out your shield and get insta shot by 6 different archers every fucking rounds.
a big damage reduction would be awesome, a speed nerf would help, an accuracy nerf would be terrible, making upkeep cost less could also indirectly help (melee focused with 5 IF getting 2 shotted is REALLY fun)
the thing i HATE about archery is the fact that any retard can point and shoot and kill anyone and they cant do shit about it unless they are an archer themselves. i hate everything that removes skill, i hated magic in darkfall, i hate archery in warband, i hate variance in poker, get it?
But that's the point Kesh! Archery has been nerfed into mainly a support role but a large section of crpg players continue to play as an archer. The question is why?
lol
i wanna play a game where skill matters, warband melee is amazing because it takes the most skill out of any game i ever played, archery ruins it because anybody whos bad at the game can play an archer and zerg down any player whos already fighting someone else.
i dont care what is done, just fucking nerf it, its annoying to get close to someone, pull out your shield and get insta shot by 6 different archers every fucking rounds.
a big damage reduction would be awesome, a speed nerf would help, an accuracy nerf would be terrible, making upkeep cost less could also indirectly help (melee focused with 5 IF getting 2 shotted is REALLY fun)
the thing i HATE about archery is the fact that any retard can point and shoot and kill anyone and they cant do shit about it unless they are an archer themselves. i hate everything that removes skill, i hated magic in darkfall, i hate archery in warband, i hate variance in poker, get it?
If your gettign targetted by 6 different archers.. its your problem.
1. Your away from your team... making you stand out.
2. Your trying to cross an open field, with no care for cover.
3. Your the only guy left on your side.
4. Your think your skilled enough too pull off a round house kick like Chuck Norris.
the thing i HATE about archery is the fact that any retard can point and shoot and kill anyone and they cant do shit about it unless they are an archer themselves. i hate everything that removes skill, i hated magic in darkfall, i hate archery in warband, i hate variance in poker, get it?
But that's the point Kesh! Archery has been nerfed into mainly a support role but a large section of crpg players continue to play as an archer. The question is why?
This is basically the learn2play checklist ;) I like it.
Seriously though, there are SO many players that will just run with a 2hander in straight line out in the open with no care for cover, or erratic movement. That's just asking to be shot because you're making yourself a VERY easy target.
totally agree. Some people dont even try to find a cover, change a direction of run from time to time, turn ur shield in the right direction or at least run with the whole team. They are not doing any of the survival tips and then they cry how they been shoot. I play xbow my self and find it hilarious when guy runs towards me in a straight line and expect me to miss, or an archer thad dont change his position long enough for me to snipe his head off. it is fairly common. those whining ppl are those who charge the enemy with their 5 other brainless mates when the rest of the team is taking the hill
Just make the arrows fly where you aim at. No silly auto aim pls. Will make archery that much chalenging and fun to play.
There's auto aim? :?: :shock:
Just make the arrows fly where you aim at. No silly auto aim pls. Will make archery that much chalenging and fun to play.
What is really confusing is that archery is less accurate now, but seems to have homing arrows so skill matters less. You can't dodge them as well anymore.The hell are you talking about?
Team A = only archers.
Team B = melee team with shield and armor.
:rolleyes:
Sincerely, I tried to play archer i didn't go past lvl 10 as it was simply not fun for me. I was amazed how small the aiming reticule was, even as a low level archer.
Bow need to be way more inaccurate at long range and a little at medium range, like it was just after the first patch.
and all they need to do is swing their hammer/greatsword/polaxe once at you and you die with 1 hit.yea they just need to run all the way around the map to get close to you and hope that nobody is paying attention around you
Doesn that kind of prove the opposite point. You have half the players there as archers and most of the kills are melee. Archers are support troops disrupting enemy melee fighters to help their own melee fighters, but they have been nerfed so much they rarely kill unless headshots. As a melee fighter its kind of lame to expect that their should be absolutely no ranged so you can play a hack and fest (go play doom 1,2 or 3 or duke nukem and use the chainsaw) with no need for spatial awareness and team work to make sure youa r enot attacked form behind with arrows or by other enemy melee. The chart toppers are even more consistently 2hers and polearmers so what else are you demanding that archers arrows somehow dont even disrupt your attack and somehow float through the air like soap bubbles as a pretty abckground? Stop complaining and give an exact description of what exactly needs to be done (most likely not needed but at least it gives something constructive to counterargue rather than some vague "ranged is too good").
since the patch most of the times i go down is to ranged
i did invest in 2 pts for shield as i did before the big patch and for me it's just as sucky
when im wearing 50-60 body armour and have a decent amount of health and then die to an arrow in the chest and then see 2 more people die to the same archer in quick succession i think it's as bad as it used to be
when i have an amazing (for me) streak of rounds in siege or battle mode - literally kill 6 enemies solo at once and then kill 4 more to end the map at 60+ Kills and 10 or less deaths but then to see the top scorer in the other team is an archer with a similar score - every other player has 30 or less kills i think "wtf"
u cant say archery is a support class right now
i dunno why it hasnt happened yet + and archers could play themselves in their brokenness and happiness
i can actually like.. outplay people, not like you can understand that as an archer ;)
I have that feeling everytime an archer shoots arrow after arrow after arrow at me and does not hit.i dont need any help
And if I then manage to nail him in the head with one of my own arrows while dodging around, life is good.
One more hint: get a feeling for the time it takes from lifting a bow to the release. If you time your dodge right, he can either abort the shot or shoot in the dirt besides you. This works even at close range.
Edit: Why the fuck am I helping you?
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Well, people started replying seriously to you. :o
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