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cRPG => Ban/Unban Requests => Closed Requests => Topic started by: Espu on July 24, 2011, 01:27:27 pm

Title: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 24, 2011, 01:27:27 pm
About an hour ago I banned 9 people for heavily exploiting friendly fire on NA_cRPG_Defend. They gained silly amounts of xp by abusing the bug in xp calculation. This bug was obvious as the in-game message tells the amount of xp gained and it is clear that the amount was abnormal.

I'm not going to post the names here, but each will need to make an individual unban request. Ban duration and possible other measures will be decided based on personal history.
Title: Re: Global bans for 9 DTV exploiters
Post by: Tinoshi on July 24, 2011, 10:12:13 pm
Hello, Espu I was one of the people you banned. I've made an unban request, so you can view it. I just wanted to check if you were working on figuring out the situation that happened on the DTV?
Title: Re: Global bans for 9 DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 24, 2011, 10:27:21 pm
I just went through the server log (spend over 9000 moments of my time doing that :( ) and found a lot more people abusing the same bug. I split the guilty into two groups, one for those who did it for a long time and spread the knowledge and one for those who just popped in for a short while.

Individual unban requests will still be required. In addition, we are thinking of a fair way to revert the unearned benefits.

There were some people who joined the server but refused to take part in the exploiting. You guys know who you are, many +1's for you.

Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Tinoshi on July 24, 2011, 10:55:09 pm
So when do you think you will reach a verdict?   :[
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: ArchonAlarion on July 24, 2011, 11:02:11 pm
Was I banned for this?

First of all, it was my friend playing the game for the first time and he had no idea that it was a bug and I was not present when he started doing it.

When I came back to the computer and saw what was happening, I watched and laughed with him because we both thought it was some goofy ass bug and didn't think we were actually getting rewards for it. He left a minute or so later.

I should NOT be banned for this if I am.

Note, this happened yesterday or the day before, I can't remember.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Tinoshi on July 24, 2011, 11:10:48 pm
Espu I notice you gave me until the 31st of July. Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this sentence shorter? If not, then I completley understand.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Flawless on July 24, 2011, 11:18:23 pm
I would suggest a ban from just DVT servers here instead of a global ban. It looks like this is a bit too little of an offense for a total ban.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 24, 2011, 11:18:38 pm
Make your appeals in your individual unban threads.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Shadow_ on July 24, 2011, 11:43:35 pm
i was one of em im very srry i just joined the server and people started tking me and i got money for it so i did it bout 10 mins or 20 mins please unban me  ive made uban request it might not make sence cause i didnt know what i did at the  time but know i do:(
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: ArchonAlarion on July 25, 2011, 04:25:30 am
Answer the threads.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Hardeknud on July 25, 2011, 04:36:53 am
It's 5am in Finland land bud.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: ArchonAlarion on July 25, 2011, 05:06:14 am
yeah and I'm banned cuz my noob friend was playing my char and walked into an exploited DTV server with no idea what was going on, so I'm pretty f*cking ticked off right now.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Equal on July 25, 2011, 05:19:32 am
Well hopefully when if I get a chance to even go on the internet tomorrow I'll find out what's what. I've been refreshing this page every so often for the past 4 hours.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 25, 2011, 11:34:52 am
I'll reply to individual unban requests when I have a moment. Most people will get a three day ban + some kind of xp/gold penalty, a few major exploiters get something more.

Cross-posting in each others topics will not do you any good. Everyone is free to argue their case in their own individual topics as per forum rules. As this is sort of a special case, I've been more lenient with posting but it's starting to get totally stupid now.

Stop spamming and wait for a reply. Banned exploiters are not very high on my list of things to do.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 25, 2011, 09:56:25 pm
Added a few more guys I noticed when revising the log. Would have been tragic if you had missed all the fun!
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: KoA_Veteran_Kolin on July 25, 2011, 10:51:42 pm
Hi Espu, I guess I was one of the people you banned for DTV exploiting (Though I had no idea what that was) If their is any way I can make the ban shorter lol i'll take it I just wanna play again.  Before you told me I was DTV exploiting I tried all the things I could think of such as: Deleting my char, re installing Crpg, re installing M&B so I guess thanks for atleast telling me what happened
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Monin on July 26, 2011, 06:15:50 pm
I must admit that I took part in the bug exploit after some players showed it to me. Read my individual unban resquest for more details. Sorry about that...
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: chompers on July 27, 2011, 04:51:59 pm
arite espu here comes the bandaid....

i think i got dealt some shit in this situation but i'm sucking it up because i have to recognize the scale of what you've done here.  [also on the case by case basis my actual physical evidence is notably less than most peoples]  anyways you're definitely setting [or just reminding a lot of people who have forgotten] a solid example of the need for reporting glitches.

most people are going to remember this whole incident and not dare exploit glitches [even if "everybody is doing it"], and even if some are still brave enough, all those people who see it and recall this massive smack down will definitely bother to report it.

so yeah in summary, i guess i was pretty pissed about my specific situation, but being able to see the largescale now, any collateral damage, [which three days isn't even so much considering] is worth the end result.

sorry if i blew up a little.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 27, 2011, 07:14:25 pm
Regarding XP & gold penalties:
- 7 day + essay ban -> -400k xp, -20k gold
- 3 day ban -> -200k xp, -10k gold

(Yes, I know it's unfair)

Unbans scheduled for today should happen in a few hours.


[..]
sorry if i blew up a little.

I appreciate people who admit their mistakes and see reason. Thanks.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: JihadistMexican on July 27, 2011, 07:42:37 pm
Thank you for the fair punishments.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 27, 2011, 09:35:48 pm
27.7. unbans are done. Don't do any more stupid stuff.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: DrKronic on July 28, 2011, 01:25:05 am
thank thee sir, hey was this also a ban on trading during the ban period?
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Grey on July 28, 2011, 01:37:18 am
@Espu, just saw your post about fines and  just had a thought: I gave my strat gold to my clanleader since my ban then: To reclaim that your gonna have to put me on negative strat gold: dont know if this is possible, hope it IS doable OR your gonna have to wait till I make more and THEN fine me. w/e works. :D
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Espu on July 28, 2011, 02:10:28 am
Banned people can't trade.

Strategus gold was not reduced with fines.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Grey on July 28, 2011, 02:24:06 am
Banned people can't trade.

Strategus gold was not reduced with fines.

K thanks. Thought about giving me time off for being nice yet :D ?


ALSO: Espu why you no gimme feedback on my essay?
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: Tinoshi on July 31, 2011, 02:57:34 am
Hello Espu, I just wanted you to know that my in game name is Tinoshi for when my ban ends tommorow  31.7
And once again im sorry for the trouble i've caused you wont be seeing it from me again. And i also made my unban essay i wasnt sure how i can put it in the unban essay portion of the forum so i just put it in the Global section since thats your jurisdiction.
Title: Re: Global bans for DTV exploiters
Post by: fear_my_blade on October 28, 2011, 01:18:54 pm
Unban me 2 please