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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Wiltzu on July 21, 2011, 07:33:41 pm
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I really hope that C-rpg makes it possible to dual-wield 1h weapons =D and when you block, etc you press shift and then block and when you press right mouse it attacks with the right hand and same with left (left mouse--->left hand, right mouse--->right hand... you get the point =D)
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It won't happen lol
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I really hope this happens so I have more people without shields to shoot at. :P
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Not likely to happen. (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,8871.msg132172.html)
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Real dual wield I doubt will ever happen, but there are a few single player mods out there that have one handed blades for shields.
If you are into that kind of thing I know Kengeki Gaiden has one handed weapon shields, as well as The Ranger's Apprentice.
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Nope.avi
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I really don't get why it wouldn't happen, it was usual for barbaric ppl to dual-wield in battles
Thx for replies anyways =)
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just need someone who know how to animate
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I really don't get why it wouldn't happen, it was usual for barbaric ppl to dual-wield in battles
Source?
The only historical data that I can find for people to frequently duel wield was fighting Florentin, which was more common for duels then for a full scale battle.
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OMG! WE NEEDZ THIS SO MUCH! DIS WAI i CANS FINALLLY CRATE MAI DREEM CHARAKTER OF DUUURZZT AND DUEL WELD 2 SKIMITARDS!
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I really don't get why it wouldn't happen, it was usual for barbaric ppl to dual-wield in battles
Thx for replies anyways =)
Like Tears said, since when did barbarians dual-wield in battle? Because you saw it in a movie or something does not mean it is true.
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Like Tears said, since when did barbarians dual-wield in battle? Because you saw it in a movie or something does not mean it is true.
offhand parry'ing blades were fairly common, and can be used offensively in a pinch or moment of enemy vulnerability
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I have always dreamed about having 2 lances on my hands and 2 strapped to my legs.
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offhand parry'ing blades were fairly common, and can be used offensively in a pinch or moment of enemy vulnerability
A shield would be much more effective and cheaper. If you are thinking about having two swords. A sword would take long time to make and if you were to buy it, it would be really expensive, a shield on the other hand is just wood with maybe some iron pieces for better protection.
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A shield would be much more effective and cheaper. If you are thinking about having two swords. A sword would take long time to make and if you were to buy it, it would be really expensive, a shield on the other hand is just wood with maybe some iron pieces for better protection.
but an offhand dagger might have been used, or offhand cudgel perhaps?
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OMG! WE NEEDZ THIS SO MUCH! DIS WAI i CANS FINALLLY CRATE MAI DREEM CHARAKTER OF DUUURZZT AND DUEL WELD 2 SKIMITARDS!
Wow, it's so funny when you misspell words. :rolleyes: Cretin.
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I have always dreamed about having 2 lances on my hands and 2 strapped to my legs.
:oops:
I have a similar dream, I dream of one day, when I may wield no less than two bows at the same time!
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First, let me preface my statement by saying that I am glad that dual-wielding will never be implemented into CRPG. Its become so popular in video game culture that it only comes off as campy now.
That said, there are historical precedents for using two swords both in Italian fencing manuals (http://www.thehaca.com/Manuals/NewManuals/DiGrassi/03001092.jpg) as well as on the battlefield. However, the use of two swords in battle was far more popular in the Far and Near East than in the European tradition. The mamluks of Egypt were trained in the use of two swords, one in each hand (Hassanein Rabie, The Training of the Mamluk Faris, p. 162. http://the-mamluk-faris.blogspot.com/2005/06/training-of-mamluk-faris.html) I believe that the Ming Chinese also had a tradition of using two extremely short blades, what might be considered long daggers in Europe, but I dont have a citation handy.
In Europe proper, its harder to pin an example down. Im not as familiar with the customs of the Frankish tribes, but most of the information we have regarding their ways of war is from Roman writings which can be unreliable on occasion when describing their enemies. In the medieval period, sword and shield or sword and lance were by far more popular, by virtue of being generally more useful. In fact, two-handed weapons are rare enough in medieval Europe for the same reason, although they gained popularity during the Renaissance and the rise of the pike square.
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Dual Wield?
No matter how much I like about medieval fantasy, dual wielding is just unpractical and lame (for me). I never create a character in D&D/MMOs/RPGs that dual wields, even my thief character in Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, and Neverwinter Nights uses buckler and darts.
But then, if it's to wield something purely cosmetic for off-hand (A torch or lamp like in Morrowind/Oblivion), it'll be a great addition to cRPG (Sadly, though suggested a month ago, no news of such implements yet)
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Wow, it's so funny when you misspell words. :rolleyes: Cretin.
GAHH YOU CANTTT TAKE A JOKEH! HOESNTETYKLYYL AHHUAFHASFJASÇSEJB
Enough said :/
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Tears_of_Destiny
Some point of my school we went to a museum where were battles from all centuries, and the guide guy said that for the poor ones, they picked up a second sword and used it due to they didn't have own shield(and most of the shields that were on the ground were taken/broken).
And yes i know ppl used this more in duels, but seriously why do you ppl get pissed off about this? It's just one way to fight.
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I'm surprised nobody has posted a picture of one of these yet:
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Now that would be great, stop a sword slash or use the point to shank someone in an armor joint.
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I'm surprised nobody has posted a picture of one of these yet:
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Now that would be great, stop a sword slash or use the point to shank someone in an armor joint.
lul, sure, if it can't be used to block with.
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lul, sure, if it can't be used to block with.
Are you kidding me? Can you see the size of that cross-guard?
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Are you kidding me? Can you see the size of that cross-guard?
:lol:
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That has to be the most rag tag bunch of police that I have ever seen in my life... Only the lower left guy looks proper.
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That has to be the most rag tag bunch of police that I have ever seen in my life... Only the lower left guy looks proper.
Racist.
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GAHH YOU CANTTT TAKE A JOKEH! HOESNTETYKLYYL AHHUAFHASFJASÇSEJB
Enough said :/
Autistics should be drowned at birth.
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Kind of suprised there is even a Wakizashi in this game, given it's relative pointlessness, unless you want to be a shileld wielding Samurai. :rolleyes:
Maybe if there was Niten ichi-ryu with a Katana it would work, but it doesn't seem to me that dual wield has a place in M&B. You can't be disarmed in game and your blade won't break during the fighting, so it's a moot. I guess you can wear it for RP, too bad you can't stab yourself with it.
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This mechanic would not work. There is no way such a spammable, flambouyantly homosexual means of killing players could ever possibly be implemented.
Only for looks. This would be amazing for my native american 1her. Axe in main hand, knife in off hand for the lulz.
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Autistics should be drowned at birth.
:rolleyes: great job einstein. Hows neo-YMCA treating ya?
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Bah, can't find a damn reference but there was a style in the middle ages (or later?) where you had a staff in your offhand protecting you from blows while in your main you had a regular sword, which was fairly common.
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duel wielding wasn't used in battle, then again neither were two handers, lets remove them!
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duel wielding wasn't used in battle, then again neither were two handers, lets remove them!
This please :twisted:
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Double Masterwork Elite Scimitar.
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Autistics should be drowned at birth.
Idiots should die in a fire...
But alas that would be cruel!
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duel wielding wasn't used in battle, then again neither were two handers, lets remove them!
I hope this was just my sarcasm meter failing me, as by the 1400s shields were fast becoming obsolete compared to two handed swords amongst the high end infantry designed to counter plate wearers.
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About a million spammy legolas's would come out of the woodwork. Swashbuckler + dagger would be cool though. As for the practical in game mechanics, it would be the exact same as everything else except using different animations.
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I'd implement it but make it so that the 2nd weapon is only used like a shield. But of course with manual blocking directions. So one hand would have a short sword or long dagger that blocks and other hand has normal 1h. Upside would be perhaps little faster than a shield and doesn't brake. Downside of course would be that flying things would kill you.
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Now that I think about it an interesting combo comes to mind. 1h sword in left hand as a shield and some 1h spear in the other one. That might not be most practical but it would be fun.
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Hmmm,
I can wear samurai armour and weild a great maul
I can wear fullplate and fire a long bow
So why cant I weild 2 weapons?
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It won't happen lol
That's the same response that was given to people asking in the Mount and Blade forums "you should add multiplayer!".
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Hmmm,
I can wear samurai armour and weild a great maul
I can wear fullplate and fire a long bow
So why cant I weild 2 weapons?
It's a matter of historical accuracy bro.
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Double Masterwork Elite Scimitar.
I like the sound of that!
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Hmmm,
I can wear samurai armour and weild a great maul
I can wear fullplate and fire a long bow
So why cant I weild 2 weapons?
I agree with him. Dual wielding is just one way to fight.
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I like the sound of that!
Why am I not surprised?
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that would be cool to have like a long espada and a dagger in the offhand, maybe if there was some way to trick the game into making the dagger into kind of a shield that attacks/parries or something with the block button
the biggest hurdle to this is the game mechanics itself, it would be cool if it is possible(which I'm not sure of)
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Why am I not surprised?
Because we both live in the sea, ofc we sea creatures know each other very well!
But:
1. The engine makes this impossible.
2. It would be OP
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Impossible is not a word chadz is familiar with. It was "impossible" to make horses cause friendly bumb damage too. I think my suggestion would not be op at all.
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Impossible is not a word chadz is familiar with. It was "impossible" to make horses cause friendly bumb damage too. I think my suggestion would not be op at all.
Teamdamage is already ingame, dual wielding isn't.
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Did you even read my suggestion? Wouldn't be that far off from what we have now.
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Did you even read my suggestion? Wouldn't be that far off from what we have now.
It's just not possible within the engine's limits, maybe even not when wse gets implemented.
Teambumps were much less complicated, it's like comparing hearth surgery with picking your nose.
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How's that not within the engines limit? I dont see anything that would stop this from happening. There is dual wielding mods out there.
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to avoid op it could be like this:
you can attack only in one dirrection at the time
if you attack with only one hand you do 3/4 of the normald dmg of the weapon
if you attack with both hands (=2weapons) that could do like 5/4 of the normal damage (the bonus damage could be added from the less damage doing weapon so attacking with 2hands at the same time you'll do 100% dmg of your most damage doing weapons pluss 1/4 of the less damage doing weapon)
and the blocking (as i've suggested before), etc. you press shift(or what ever else...) + left or right and show the dirrection.
and to really avoid the op it could be done that when blocking if you shift + left and show the dirrection to right, it wouldn't block.
and seriously, 2h are more op than this, they make little bit more damage(if my 5/4damage suggestion would be done) and they have more reach. ok they're little bit slower but the normal "you hit, i block then i hit, you block" thing would be still on.
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I think this is hardcoded (not 100% sure) if it is then it isant going to happen. But it would still be cool people might even duel wield on horseback a sword in each hand would be cool.
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but an offhand dagger might have been used, or offhand cudgel perhaps?
Off hand weapon is near useless in most circumstances. Unlike stupid computer games, it does NOT allow you to attack more. It can be used to parry, but than it is much less useful than a shield or buckler - the only advantage of a dagger is that it is easier to carry around, hence much more likely to be on you in an urban environment. The other reason it have it in the left hand is in case someone gets under your sword arm and the fight turns into a grapple match - the you drop the sword and already have your dagger out. Nobody will go into battle like this. In addition, an empty hand is extremely useful in combat, which is far removed from the "ching, ching, have at thee!" that we are used to from Hollywood. Real fight can quickly turn into a wrestling match and if you look at the old fencing books, there are many moves that involve the left hand in grappling.
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LoL blocking dagger vs great long axe :lol: :lol:
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In fact you can chamberblock(riposte) a great long axe with fists.