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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: robotbrains on July 19, 2011, 04:48:47 am
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hello
I am making a 1h + shield and have a few questions about the build.
this is what i got right now.
lvl 19
14/10
1h 113
PS 4
Shield 3
Ath 3
WM 3
with 7 skill points waiting to be used.
my ending result i was thinking of was
1h + shield - 21/15 or 18/18
2 pts converted
Ironflesh 7
Power Strike 7
Shield 5
Athletics 5
Weapon master 5
or a 1h + shield with cavalry. maybe even a hybrid 1h + shield, pole-arm with cavalry.
with the hybrid being around 130 1h and 100 pole-arm
21/15 or 18/18
Ironflesh 0
Power Strike 6
Shield 5
Athletics 6
Riding 6
Weapon master 6
basically is Ironflesh worth it when i have a shield? I am also not bad at blocking when i lose it.
for top gear i was looking at Orange Transitional Armor with Surcoat Armor and a Pigface Klappvisier Helm
what weight should my armor be for a good 1h + shield?
i was also looking at the bastard sword as i love it as a 1h weapon. i figure if i get the Plate Covered Round Shield i wont have the issue of using it as a 2 handed.
also i find the bastard sword would work great on a horse if i decide to go that way, wont have to use a pole-arm.
thanks for any help.
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Yes, the iron flesh is useful. It is the difference between the ability to make one mistake, two mistakes or three mistakes before dying.
No ironflesh + light armor = Make one mistake and you die.
ironflesh + light armor = get to make a mistake and survive!
ironflesh + medium/heavier armor = 2 or more mistakes before you die.
It is a world of difference.
As for armor, Typically light armor is best for a shielder. The shield should be your armor. Putting heavy armor on can be good for certain occasions, but shouldn't be something you think of as a regular thing. Medium armor is good too, though.
Using a bastard sword with one hand is very slow compared to a real 1h, and you have to understand that you lose 30% speed and damage (roughly) when using it with a shield. However, if you have your footwork and timing down it isn't bad! I actually have a character right now that uses 1h + shield but uses a goedandag! It is really good, so much reach + knock down! However, with that said I still recommend a real 1h weapon if you are going for battle effectiveness. They are better than half-handers.
Now, for the plate covered round shield. It has good armor -- but it has shitty HP. If you run into an axe it will survive maybe 3 hits. I do suggest a shield with higher hitpoints -- like a heavy or normal kite/norman/board shield/ huscarl* (*it is overused for a reason. Try it and you'll see.)
Now for cavalry. Cavalry is a nice variation for 1h + shield characters. You sacrifice the delicious IF for more versatility, and I like it. One thing though, no matter what I suggest getting the 100 wpf for pole arm. You'll have 130 1h already anyways!
Hope I helped.
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thanks for the reply!
yeah im still trying to decide between IF or cav.
i think i may play right now for a bit to see how well i can do with one of the shields you recommended.
if i can last, i may go Orange Transitional Armor with Surcoat for those special occasions and keep wearing my Blue Tunic over Mail.
what do you think between 18/18 or 21/15
the hard part is picking what one. im thinking more foot because i do allot of siege. but i would like to get into battle.
and about pole arms. would you recommend a hybrid?
and thanks so much.
edit:
i picked up a bastard sword in battle with a shield and i loved it, other than the slow speed... i am use to the Italian swords speed tho.
and that "30% speed and damage (roughly)" is that just because your using a two handed as a one handed?
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As for using the 2h as a 1h, yes. It is the penalty for using a pole arm or 2h with one hand.
I personally suggest 21/15. Do cav and you can still get 2 IF also. 7 IF without cav.
Blue tunic over mail is awesome armor. Doesn't weigh much but lets you survive a hit or two :)
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21/15 and you can have 7 IF and believe me, it really shows.
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Thanks again both for the reply. Very helpful.
I think im going to go pure 1h + shield with this guy. make a cav later on.
and if im going 7 IF what would my other Skills be?
and as for armor i love the blue tunic over mail for my lower money making gear.
but for my better armor should i go medium over high?
basically Heavy or light Kuyak over Orange Transitional Armor with Surcoat.
because i feel if i get the Transitional Armor with Surcoat i should go 18/18 and 21/15 seems very sweet.
would the Transitional Armor with Surcoat slow me down allot over the Heavy/light Kuyak.
and on that note will the heavy slow me down noticeably over the light kuyak.
sorry for all the questions. long time mount and blade player, first time cRPG.
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7 PS, 7 IF, 5 shield, 5 ATH, 5 WM.
I wear light kuyak, nordic warlord helm and mail gauntlets with leather boots and I'm still quite fast, so I guess you could go even higher than that.
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7 PS, 7 IF, 5 shield, 5 ATH, 5 WM.
I wear light kuyak, nordic warlord helm and mail gauntlets with leather boots and I'm still quite fast, so I guess you could go even higher than that.
loveing those skills. im going that.
i think il get the light Kuyak with the Pigface Klappvisier. thanks.
what weapon do you use? right now im using the Italian. enjoying the speed. with the shield its not hard to close the distance either. just with the bastard sword didn't get that penalty when using it as 1h.
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Well, I'm using Nordic Champions Sword and Elite Cavalry Shield (because it's fast). But any weapon works with that build really. Just pick what suits you the best.
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True. Thanks for the advice.