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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Magikarp on July 18, 2011, 05:50:07 pm

Title: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Magikarp on July 18, 2011, 05:50:07 pm
I think we've all seen it: people trading c-rpg gold for strategus troops or gold. Or people selling strategus stuff the vice versa.

It's like paying for items on c-rpg with dollars/euros/whatever real life currency, it should be banned.

People who got a lot of gold on c-rpg, can now slack off and have advantages against others in strategus. Not to mention that if every clan will start doing this, than the richest clan will obviously be able to field more troops with better equipment.

And it's not like I'm biased, I got a lot of gold to spend and enough masterwork items to get an even bigger amount. This kind of behaviour just annoys me, strategus and c-rpg need to be seperated as much as possible, as their only link should be the character's stats and name that you bring to the battlefield.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Skurcey on July 18, 2011, 06:31:04 pm
trading is fun, and encourage friendship ! It s a fun way to have something other to do
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Garem on July 18, 2011, 07:51:29 pm
Better suggestion: homogenize both systems. They were split before because cRPG gold was far less valuable. I don't think that's the case anymore.

Plus, the easy balance to this if gear gets too cheap in Strategus is to increase the cost of Strategus gear.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Magikarp on July 18, 2011, 08:49:32 pm
Better suggestion: homogenize both systems. They were split before because cRPG gold was far less valuable. I don't think that's the case anymore.

Plus, the easy balance to this if gear gets too cheap in Strategus is to increase the cost of Strategus gear.
Good suggestion as an alternative, added to poll.

@Skurcey: I don't understand a thing of what you are saying. I can only make of your post that you are making money out of this, or at least utilising this system.

Please if you vote for the poll, leave a reply why you voted that way.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Matey on July 18, 2011, 08:55:19 pm
i have mixed feelings. but overall, i think it is good to have such trade exist... it encourages players who otherwise would not participate in strategus to get involved... they may at some point decide they care about strat enough to join a faction instead of just selling their stuff for crpg gold.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Lordark on July 18, 2011, 10:21:05 pm
how do you sell Crpg gold for Strat gold ? I dont get it..
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 18, 2011, 10:23:30 pm
how do you sell Crpg gold for Strat gold ? I dont get it..

Get near each other in Strat' map.
PM each other, work out a deal. Player 1 uses the market to offer a rock for two hundred bajillion gold. Player 2 buys the rock for two hundred bajillion gold, then on strat map transfers 1 bajillion fake Strat gold as well as a quarter bajillion troops to Player 1.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Lordark on July 18, 2011, 10:29:33 pm
O gee I think I get it now...


Peoples who have been playing this game alot and saving up a ton of money will be big money ballin on strategus by selling stuff now on the marketplaces since those transactions also
add to ur Strategus characters gold vault??
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: [ptx] on July 18, 2011, 10:43:11 pm
chadz had once said that strategus and crpg gold will be the one and the same. I think that might just apply in some future version of strategus (maybe the next?). So, if people feel like wasting their gold on this, temporary version (i don't believe it will last that long, lol), why not let them?
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Magikarp on July 19, 2011, 12:17:29 am
chadz had once said that strategus and crpg gold will be the one and the same. I think that might just apply in some future version of strategus (maybe the next?). So, if people feel like wasting their gold on this, temporary version (i don't believe it will last that long, lol), why not let them?
True, but still, I'd like some sort of dev answer on this. Both for this old and the future version.

Even a guarentee that this will be fixed in the future 'new' strategus is enough.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Blondin on July 19, 2011, 01:44:31 am
IMO this add some things to do for clanless ppl, don't know if you participate in last Strategus but there was nothing to do for lonewolf except hired merc in battles.
Gathering gold in strat was useless as only thing you can do was buying equip for your troops, equip for what? once you reach 200/300 troops you were a threat for clans and so they eradicated your little army.

Now ppl can do something with there troops and gold strat, they could sell all for some gold to pay upkeep. Honestly i don't need myself gold, but i'm sure that for new players it could be interesting.
Don't know if Apsod and Polobow make a lot of money but they have a goal in strat (find the best spot!)
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: PhantomZero on July 19, 2011, 04:36:11 am
IMO this add some things to do for clanless ppl, don't know if you participate in last Strategus but there was nothing to do for lonewolf except hired merc in battles.
Gathering gold in strat was useless as only thing you can do was buying equip for your troops, equip for what? once you reach 200/300 troops you were a threat for clans and so they eradicated your little army.

Now ppl can do something with there troops and gold strat, they could sell all for some gold to pay upkeep. Honestly i don't need myself gold, but i'm sure that for new players it could be interesting.
Don't know if Apsod and Polobow make a lot of money but they have a goal in strat (find the best spot!)

I agree, there is a lot of risk involved for all parties trading. Never know when you hand over your 500,000 cRPG gold and then the guy just attacks you with the 500 troops he was going to give you. Not to mention the effort of trying to meet up on the map. Or you get attacked transporting your Strategus Gold trying to get back to wherever you came from.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Magikarp on July 19, 2011, 01:22:25 pm
IMO this add some things to do for clanless ppl, don't know if you participate in last Strategus but there was nothing to do for lonewolf except hired merc in battles.
Gathering gold in strat was useless as only thing you can do was buying equip for your troops, equip for what? once you reach 200/300 troops you were a threat for clans and so they eradicated your little army.

Now ppl can do something with there troops and gold strat, they could sell all for some gold to pay upkeep. Honestly i don't need myself gold, but i'm sure that for new players it could be interesting.
Don't know if Apsod and Polobow make a lot of money but they have a goal in strat (find the best spot!)
OR you could just join a clan in strategus only, I think I've heard of people doing that. Having contracts with clans without having to join etc.

@Phantom: Not if your clan organises a neat and clean fast trading route.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: CoWorm on July 19, 2011, 01:48:53 pm
I agree with both PTX and Blondin. Especially since chadz has been talking of making gold interchangable in future versions anyway. And also think about the possibility of a whipe with this early Strategus version, sucks to be the guys that traded all that gold then.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Corwin on July 19, 2011, 01:51:28 pm
I think that, as a principle, it should be prohibited.

First of all, some nolifers have already accumulated incredible amounts of gold in crpg, and this would give them unfair advantage over new players, or over others that didn't grind as much. For example, the biggest crpg nolifer, Kesh, offered crpg gold as a reward to mercenaries against Mercs. Well, that didn't help him much, but as a principle it is unfair, because he is in possession of millions, while others may not have that much to spare. Off course, reward last night was only 10 000, but what's to stop him (and others) from offering 100 000? Now that would be tempting to some, wouldn't it?

Second, I would strongly advise against any solutions that would encourage grinding fest on battle and siege servers. No need to explain why, I hope.


Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: CoWorm on July 19, 2011, 01:54:52 pm
Second, I would strongly advise against any solutions that would encourage grinding fest on battle and siege servers. No need to explain why, I hope.

I agree with this, but sadly this is exactly what we have now. No?
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Vibe on July 19, 2011, 02:28:37 pm
I hate that strategus is partly grind dependant too.
Title: Re: A Ban on interaction of goods and gold between c-rpg and strategus
Post by: Blondin on July 19, 2011, 07:13:51 pm
OR you could just join a clan in strategus only, I think I've heard of people doing that. Having contracts with clans without having to join etc.


Yeah, i could just join a clan, but i'll lose my freedom, as a randomer i can go everywhere i want (for example if i join BRD, i'm sure Mercs will shoot me on sight) i have no diplomatic treaty to respect, i can fight for anybody as a hired merc, and i don't have order to follow (like stay in that village and recruit troops then give all to clan leader) i'm not talking of battle part which is way more interesting with teamwork and good organization from clan. Tbh, i wait for new version of strategus with crafting and all the stuff, i'm looking forward to see how it work and i may join a clan.

But i don't understand that you want to reduce the scope of clanless ppl in favor of clan members, as i said there is almost nothing to do as lonewolf and you want to withdraw the only thing we can do.

About no-lifer, this is bs, no-lifer allready have a tons of gold, he doesn't care to sell troops for 50000 crpg gold, but for a new player 50k gold could give him more choice (buy good gear or wear good gear without fear of upkeep). There is plenty of thread about new players that can't afford upkeep, here is a solution.

But i agree with Vibe, Strategus should not be grind dependant, otherwise clan with the most members will be to powerful (but i guess chadz will find a solution to strike big empire).