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Title: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Alex_C on July 13, 2011, 05:48:05 pm
Feel free to sign up, the more the merrier.

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=182640.msg4378147#msg4378147
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Alex_C on July 16, 2011, 01:00:31 pm
~~#Bump#~~
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Phyrex on July 16, 2011, 01:19:50 pm
I was thinking of joining in this time around, however, the native duelling scene is no longer about skills, it's all about having the most fucked up, crazy ass macro feints.

Make rules against macro feinting and I might sign up.
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Vibe on July 16, 2011, 02:15:10 pm
People actually macro their feints?

fucking bundle of stickss
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Christo on July 16, 2011, 02:17:01 pm
 :?
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Alex_C on July 16, 2011, 02:39:19 pm
I was thinking of joining in this time around, however, the native duelling scene is no longer about skills, it's all about having the most fucked up, crazy ass macro feints.

Make rules against macro feinting and I might sign up.

This was considered, however the problem lies in detecting what is a macro feint and what isn't. Since it's more than possible to do the things people are apparently doing with macros, just by increasing your sensitivity a load, we have essentially no way of detecting such macros.

It's a pity you don't wish to join, however I'd also like to point out, that the fact that at most three European duelists that I have played against would be suspect of perhaps using macros, doesn't really mean that the entirety of Native dueling is doing so.
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Phyrex on July 16, 2011, 03:38:50 pm
This was considered, however the problem lies in detecting what is a macro feint and what isn't. Since it's more than possible to do the things people are apparently doing with macros, just by increasing your sensitivity a load, we have essentially no way of detecting such macros.

It's a pity you don't wish to join, however I'd also like to point out, that the fact that at most three European duelists that I have played against would be suspect of perhaps using macros, doesn't really mean that the entirety of Native dueling is doing so.

10-15 feints per second is in-human and can only be done by mutants, cyborgs, robots and macro feinters. They're quite easy to spot. The hard ones to spot are people like Storm, duellist frequently visiting Ndition, but goes by other names now days. He has done some clever macro feints which looks unnatural due to not moving his mouse, ergo his character animation does not move along with his feints.

Of course they do not attack any quicker then I or you do, however, being a clickblocker(most of the time), it is hard to keep up with 10 feints per second, I get a brain meltdown.
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Gurnisson on July 16, 2011, 09:20:40 pm
Dueling sucks
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: ManOfWar on July 16, 2011, 10:26:03 pm
10-15 feints per second is in-human and can only be done by mutants, cyborgs, robots and macro feinters. They're quite easy to spot. The hard ones to spot are people like Storm, duellist frequently visiting Ndition, but goes by other names now days. He has done some clever macro feints which looks unnatural due to not moving his mouse, ergo his character animation does not move along with his feints.

Of course they do not attack any quicker then I or you do, however, being a clickblocker(most of the time), it is hard to keep up with 10 feints per second, I get a brain meltdown.

Another way to break the game like what we North Americans call "The Castor"

Where a 2h left swing goes, is then blocked, then you use a right swing right after which is super fast for some reason
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Alex_C on July 16, 2011, 11:30:33 pm
10-15 feints per second is in-human and can only be done by mutants, cyborgs, robots and macro feinters. They're quite easy to spot. The hard ones to spot are people like Storm, duellist frequently visiting Ndition, but goes by other names now days. He has done some clever macro feints which looks unnatural due to not moving his mouse, ergo his character animation does not move along with his feints.

Of course they do not attack any quicker then I or you do, however, being a clickblocker(most of the time), it is hard to keep up with 10 feints per second, I get a brain meltdown.

M and I did some testing on this, whilst this was being considered, M was able to do the macro-feints, without actually having such macros. Now, I don't know they're not a mutant, cyborg or robot, but... =p
Title: Re: Nditions' European Duelling Tournament II!
Post by: Phyrex on July 17, 2011, 12:40:31 am
M and I did some testing on this, whilst this was being considered, M was able to do the macro-feints, without actually having such macros. Now, I don't know they're not a mutant, cyborg or robot, but... =p

So he was able to do 10 feints per second? lol sure