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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #435 on: November 19, 2015, 12:55:15 pm »
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Which ones? All of them?

Do you know how to read? "endless excuses for barbaric islamists". Who do you think I'm talking about? Dede says it was "disrespectful", yet makes excuses and pretends it's anything but what it is, religious fanatics. And then people say with a straight face that Turkey is a "secular" country. Right, right.

Hey Brokar, why only show the map of states with islamic religion in their constitution? Why not show the entire planet? It's only "half" of total majority muslim countries after all. Not a uniquely islamic thing at all, no sir.

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And Baathism was a gigantic success, Iraq and Syria were, after all, super "secular", not sectarian shitholes where religious and tribal denomination completely determined the distribution of government power and resources. No massacres of shia by sunnis, no massacre of kurds, no massacres of sunnis by alawites and druze, no opression or government sponsored violence against the few assyrians and jews that were still around, all those were mere mirages before the islamic "renaissance".
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #436 on: November 19, 2015, 01:01:39 pm »
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Though it's not entirely wrong...
They shoutet "Şehi.tler ölmez, vatan bölünmez", it means something like"Martyrs never die, our land/nation will not be divided".
This is a frequently used slogan in remembrance for the fallen soldiers in turkey. You might hear this in almost every football match.
It has nothing to do with the terrorist attacks in Paris, but with the bombings and terrorist attacks happening in Turkey(mostly committed by Pkk Terrorists).
It was also a protest against the hypocrisy on how some tragic events get so much attention, while others are totally ignored.

Without a doubt, this was disrespectful...

You are describing the whole thing as if the martyrdom motto has any tangible meaning anymore. These dogs nowadays always shout either "Allah Akbar" or the line about martyrs whenever anti-government people are brutally murdered. These two are used in the same context. It really doesn't have to involve a Turkish soldier being killed by a terrorist. It has become an oxymoron.

Really, I don't want to disrespect you like I did in our latest argument, but I think you have been away for too long from Turkey that you don't have a sound idea about what kind of hellhole it has become. I'd advise you to at least drop the whole terrorist-martyr talk. Today, if you are a Muslim belonging to a sect other than the Sunni or if you are an atheist worst of all, someone who opposes war, an enivorenmental activist, a worker that is a member of an independent union (not one of the government handled ones, which we call a "yellow union"), god forbid a Christian or Jew, an Armenian, somebody who doesn't like Tardogan (as if you absolutely have to); if you don't believe in all the false inflation figures bullshit etc. spewed on your face on TV all day long; if you don't worship asphalt and double-lane highways; if you question instead of blindly accepting just anything; or if you don't like Islam being shoved down children's throats at school starting from primary school; you are a fucking terrorist. That is that and it won't change.

In that case, even crowds of mobs that are in favor of lynching you will shout out the same lines. And no, you don't hear that in almost all football matches. That is again something you don't seem to know. By the way, you previously claimed that you prefer to question things, not jump to conclusions. But the fact that you are explicitly calling victims of Suruç and Ankara bombings terrorists tells me otherwise.

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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #437 on: November 19, 2015, 01:07:36 pm »
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Wait, is he saying the Suruc and Ankara bombings were commited by PKK terrorists? Or that the victims were PKK terrorists? It's hard to keep the completely irrational justifications of retards straight.
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #438 on: November 19, 2015, 01:11:26 pm »
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Wait, is he saying the Suruc and Ankara bombings were commited by PKK terrorists? Or that the victims were PKK terrorists? It's hard to keep the completely irrational justifications of retards straight.

Actually it might be both. Government media has been claiming that the victims were PKK sympathizers, i.e. terrorists after all. Likewise, they also claim the attacks were committed by PKK. In the meantime, it has been already proven that the Suruç bombing was the doing of a young maggot that was an IS member. And, brace yourself, the Ankara bombing was the doing of his elder brother, also an IS maggot who wasn't even looked for after the Suruç incident despite all warnings.

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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #439 on: November 19, 2015, 01:23:28 pm »
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Actually it might be both. Government media has been claiming that the victims were PKK sympathizers, i.e. terrorists after all. Likewise, they also claim the attacks were committed by PKK. In the meantime, it has been already proven that the Suruç bombing was the doing of a young maggot that was an IS member. And, brace yourself, the Ankara bombing was the doing of his elder brother, also an IS maggot who wasn't even looked for after the Suruç incident despite all warnings.

That was more of a rhetorical question than anything, unlike a bunch of western idiot dhimmis now whining that evil self-centered west did not care about any of this I've followed these things very closely. Can just quote myself from these forums, but oh, there's soooo much out there on the internetz, especially turkish speaking forums where blind ignorant cunts would absolutely not go to lest their stupid illusions about Turkey being a "secular" country are shattered.


Suruc:
It's a joy going around turkish forums and youtube comments. Apparently they were all a bunch of kurdish communist scum who deserved death. And it's payback for PKK terrorism. How would this be used as a reason for war when the people it's supposed to galvanize are totally ok with it? A lot of turks don't even see it as an attack on themselves. Because it wasn't.
And of course the usual it's a zionist conspiracy arguement, because it's just soooo unbelievable that an islamic fanatic could ever do such a thing. It must've been a CIA/Mossad operation, designed to make muslims look bad and foment chaos in Turkey.

Ankara:
Apparently it's a false-flag attack the kurds launched against themselves to seem like martyrs and undermine Erdogan's authority. Yup. Just like all the other suicide bombings and terrorist attacks against kurds, always some vague and unexplained reason why the real targets and victims are, ultimately, the sunni turks.
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #440 on: November 19, 2015, 01:45:52 pm »
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I guess that illusion has already been shattered for those who had truly secular mindsets. Yet there are still extremely naive Muslims who are clueless, preaching about how secularity is still there and the fundamentals of democracy are intact and unharmed.

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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #441 on: November 19, 2015, 01:50:44 pm »
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As soon as the islamists in government castrated the army, secularism in Turkey was dead in the water. It always was the only thing standing against that takeover, ever since Ataturk's era.
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #442 on: November 19, 2015, 03:23:23 pm »
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Hey Brokar, why only show the map of states with islamic religion in their constitution? Why not show the entire planet? It's only "half" of total majority muslim countries after all. Not a uniquely islamic thing at all, no sir.

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And Baathism was a gigantic success, Iraq and Syria were, after all, super "secular", not sectarian shitholes where religious and tribal denomination completely determined the distribution of government power and resources. No massacres of shia by sunnis, no massacre of kurds, no massacres of sunnis by alawites and druze, no opression or government sponsored violence against the few assyrians and jews that were still around, all those were mere mirages before the islamic "renaissance".
Because anyway it doesn't mean much, Uganda is not an official christian country, it doesn't prevent them to persecute gay for religious reasons. And on the opposite, what does it really mean for the UK to be officially christian?

Baath dictator used ethnico-religious difference to divide like any politician loves to do to cover the other problems the population were facing.

And anyway if mulsims like to put the word "islam" in thier constitution so what? Like we should give any fuck about what they put in their constitution
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #443 on: November 19, 2015, 07:42:08 pm »
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As soon as the islamists in government castrated the army, secularism in Turkey was dead in the water. It always was the only thing standing against that takeover, ever since Ataturk's era.

 Yet the Turks still have the common-sense to deport known terrorists back to Europe, where they are allowed roam free once again. Why should they care if European countries don't. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-deported-jihadist-tied-to-paris-attacks-in-early-2015.aspx?pageID=238&nID=91364&NewsCatID=351

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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #444 on: November 19, 2015, 07:59:26 pm »
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I guess that illusion has already been shattered for those who had truly secular mindsets. Yet there are still extremely naive Muslims who are clueless, preaching about how secularity is still there and the fundamentals of democracy are intact and unharmed.

 Seems like a strategy to keep far more dangerous people out of the position and power of a religious moral high ground.

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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #445 on: November 19, 2015, 09:48:28 pm »
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #446 on: November 19, 2015, 09:48:37 pm »
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #447 on: November 19, 2015, 10:02:40 pm »
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Prosecutor: Paris attacks ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud dead
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/19/world/paris-attacks/

"Police fired around 5,000 rounds of ammunition in an hour-long gunfight with the apartment's occupants early Wednesday and used powerful munitions that spurred a floor to collapse. Five officers suffered slight wounds, while a police dog and two suspected terrorists died."

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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #448 on: November 19, 2015, 10:20:56 pm »
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That must be one of the most meaningless gifs I've ever seen.

When you're arguing on the internet, you're typing. Ok.

Also, the whole "lol it's so stupid and low status to argue ON THE INTERNET :) :) :)" is so 1995. There is literally nothing making real life arguing "better" or "superior"; and nothing making arguing on the internet worse. On the contrary, there are tons of positives to arguing on the internet, such as being able to check sources immediately.

Just an easy meme for people without arguments to use.
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Re: France under attack....
« Reply #449 on: November 19, 2015, 10:32:08 pm »
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