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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

« on: May 12, 2015, 10:22:21 pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand_of_Austria

Serbia was the Antagonist(Bosnian Serb shooter, with 5 Serbian conspirators and a whole lot of Serbian Military support)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand_of_Austria#Aftermath
This letter became known as the July Ultimatum, and Austria-Hungary stated that if Serbia did not accept all of the demands in total within 48 hours, it would recall its ambassador from Serbia. After receiving a telegram of support from Russia, Serbia mobilized its army and responded to the letter by completely accepting point #8 demanding an end to the smuggling of weapons and punishment of the frontier officers who had assisted the assassins and completely accepting point #10 which demanded Serbia report the execution of the required measures as they were completed. Serbia partially accepted, finessed, disingenuously answered or politely rejected elements of the preamble and enumerated demands #1–7 and #9. The shortcomings of Serbia's response were published by Austria-Hungary. Austria-Hungary responded by breaking diplomatic relations.[147]

What I said was the short version. Please, sit down.

You do realize the ultimatum was written specifically so any sovereign nation with any self respect would refuse, right? Unless of course you would consider unrestricted access for foreign military personnel completely acceptable.

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General Off Topic / Re: Skyrim: The biggest problem with paid mods

« on: April 26, 2015, 06:01:43 pm »

If you think this is about the future of PC gaming (haven't a clue as to why paying for third party mods all of a sudden threatens PC gaming) then respond in the only way that can force a company to change:

Do. Not. Pay. Threaten the bottom line. Whining about it on forums as you dish out your cash to buy mods is not going to accomplish anything. I don't play any games that are based on in game micro transactions or repetitive DLC that turn games in to pay to win. the fact that others do is out of my control but my actions are and I choose not to give them a cent.

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General Off Topic / Re: Skyrim: The biggest problem with paid mods

« on: April 26, 2015, 04:20:31 pm »

Or...

You don't pay and stop playing Skyrim? That's always a choice.

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General Off Topic / Re: Russian girls - beautiful and strong

« on: April 19, 2015, 06:11:04 pm »

Fucking brilliant.

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

« on: April 04, 2015, 06:27:58 pm »

If the US seriously wanted to topple Assad they would not have went through the UN where they knew it would lead them nowhere. They have many times acted unilaterally in what they perceive to be their self interest, and there is no reason to believe they wouldn't have if they truly wanted Assad gone.

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

« on: April 04, 2015, 06:02:58 pm »

Wait wait wait, Russia stopped the US from attacking Syria?

The US never had any intention of attacking Syria, if it did it would've done so already. Assad is still in power in Syria because the US realized the moderate Syrian opposition would be overrun by Islamists sooner or later. If anything, Russia gave the US a way out which it gladly accepted.

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General Off Topic / Re: This organization against guns opened a gun store in NYC to make a point.

« on: April 01, 2015, 11:41:41 pm »

No Xant if anything it's subjective to suggest a gun is anything but a gun. To me a gun is a gun because it is declared by the manufacturer as such. It is classified by laws and regulations as a gun. It will never be a book end or a toothbrush even if you use it like one. The fact that to someone else it might be something else is entirely subjective. But I'm seriously not going to argue about philosophical nonsense about what something is and isn't. It so far removed from practicality that it's a complete waste of time.

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General Off Topic / Re: This organization against guns opened a gun store in NYC to make a point.

« on: April 01, 2015, 03:02:42 am »

It's not even that, it's just wrong. What something is "designed for" does not matter, only what it actually is does matter.

Maybe I used the wrong word. Replace designed for with engineered to do. To me, what a product is engineered/designed to do defines what it is.

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General Off Topic / Re: This organization against guns opened a gun store in NYC to make a point.

« on: March 31, 2015, 12:24:42 am »

I knew I shouldn't get involved in a gun debate.

Anyway, yes the analogy works for the video like I originally said. I also said the analogy makes no sense in terms of the overall gun control debate. If what things are designed for makes no difference in its regulation then fuck it I want a nuclear bomb as a lawn ornament. Sure, it can be used to unleash destruction in a wide radius, but it also looks really nice sitting on my lawn.

Since I'm getting drawn back into this unholy quagmire where literally no one's opinion's will be changed, I'm gonna do something constructive like visit the Ukraine, wiping your ass standing or sitting, Facopalypse thread.

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General Off Topic / Re: This organization against guns opened a gun store in NYC to make a point.

« on: March 30, 2015, 10:23:57 pm »

That's nothing but semantics, and semantics don't carry any power in the real world. Guns are made for shooting. That's it. You can do many things with shooting. You can shoot cardboard, you can shoot animals, you can shoot criminals to wound them, you can shoot enemies to kill them, you can shoot the air to make a celebratory noise while shouting "Allah Akbar" and so on. If someone buys a gun to shoot at cardboard and someone steals it to kill with it that is exactly the same thing as if someone buys a car to drive it in circles and someone steals it to "transport" someone's blood and bits of flesh around after driving over them.

It's not semantics at all. I can't think of any gun that was designed for anything but to maim and kill, from the lowliest calibre to .50. The things you listed are other applications, but doesn't change the fact that a firearm is designed to main and kill. If you don't think what the original purpose of something matters in terms of regulation and laws that's fine, but to think that a gun isn't designed to kill is the very definition of playing semantics that you accuse me of.

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General Off Topic / Re: This organization against guns opened a gun store in NYC to make a point.

« on: March 30, 2015, 10:01:21 pm »

That argument only works if you suppose a gun is useless or near useless. In Western European cities, guns are next to useless, even for self-defense. Out in the middle of the Mid-West, guns are actually kind of useful, like cars. Some city centers have been banning cars for the last few years because cars are not necessary if you have proper public transport, so the comparison isn't as strange as you might think.

I don't think a gun is useless or near useless at all. In fact I think the exact opposite. They are very effective at what they're designed to do.

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General Off Topic / Re: This organization against guns opened a gun store in NYC to make a point.

« on: March 30, 2015, 09:57:58 pm »

It isn't apples and oranges in regards to this video. It can be apples and oranges if you make the analogy in a normal conversation about whether guns should be made illegal or not; it's not apples and oranges in the context of this video.

Even then, I don't completely buy the apples and oranges thing because if someone buys guns for shooting at targets because it's fun, and someone steals it and kills with it... there's not much difference to someone getting his car stolen and someone driving people over with it.

Similarly if you buy it to protect yourself against rape, and a three year old accidentally shoots someone with it, it was used in a way and for a purpose it wasn't meant for. A car can be used as a weapon too.

Actually, shooting someone with a gun is exactly how the gun is meant to be used. Whether or not it was accidental or not is moot - a gun is designed to shoot projectiles in order to kill. A car is designed to transport people and goods.

Like I said, what you've said is valid for the purpose of this obnoxious video. Furthermore, I support responsible people getting guns. I just unapologetically disagree with the notion that owning a gun is a right. It is a privilege, much like driving a car.

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General Off Topic / Re: This organization against guns opened a gun store in NYC to make a point.

« on: March 30, 2015, 09:19:40 pm »

It's like setting up a fake car store, showing people some nice and shiny cars, then saying "yeah, yeah, this Volvo is really good and reliable.... this one right here was used by young Dennis, 11 years old, to drive over five kindergarteners when he stole it from his dad for a test drive..." and then people walking out of the store going all "wow I totes changed my mind about buying a car, so convince."

Apples and oranges. Cars are for transportation, guns are for killing. A car can be used to kill yes, but pretty sure the person that conceived the car did not do so for the purpose of killing people. Guns on the other hand were, and still are, designed to kill. I get the comparison you're trying to make in regards to the video itself, but people who are for guns that use the cars and guns comparison are fucking stupid.

The video is somewhat funny. Some of the reaction that people have is pretty hilarious. They were totally up for buying a device for killing yet completely recoiled when they heard it was used for that purpose (accidentally notwithstanding).

Meant to quote antiblitz as well but I can't forum.

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General Off Topic / Re: Emergency!!

« on: March 27, 2015, 10:36:58 pm »

Welcome to hemorrhoid city, population you.

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General Off Topic / Re: Fapocalypse

« on: March 20, 2015, 09:12:56 pm »

Me neither. I for one value whores much more than prudes.