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Title: Third Age Total War
Post by: dynamike on April 26, 2012, 03:44:21 pm
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One of the best mods for (still) one of the best iterations of the Total War series: Third Age Total War for Medieval II Total War: Kingdoms

The mod offers all relevant factions from LOTR on the LOTR map, unique heroes (like Gandalf, Sauron, etc.) and custom settlements!! Every faction has its own flavor and plays much more diverse then vanilla Total War. There are incredibly strong units to beat like troll and ents and scripted events that are triggered under certain conditions (like Eriador reforming to Arnor). The mod is for experienced players seeking a challenge and even supports multiplayer battles!

Get a feeling for it here (Release Trailer):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lky9diYN6Qo

And here (Battle for Minas Tirith):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X51fFTOwKr0&feature=related

Some impressions:
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Download and latest version info here:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=500418

Find the forums here:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=654

Strategy Guide:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=257891

All units:
http://totalwar.honga.net/faction.php?v=tatw3

Join up now and play - maybe we can schedule some multiplayer battles!

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Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Tiberias on April 26, 2012, 04:52:48 pm
Indeed, one of the best mods i ever played.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: dynamike on April 26, 2012, 05:22:43 pm
Have you played it since the recent 3.1 update yet? More immersive and impressive than ever!!

The custom settlements add a whole new level of excitement and challenge when sieging e.g. Mordor or the Black Gate  :D

From the new content:
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Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Teeth on April 26, 2012, 05:35:37 pm
Ooh, maybe its time to play this one again.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: bruttus on April 26, 2012, 05:56:40 pm
well, in mine opinion, i did a siege where i had to defend Minas Tirith against Mordor
whill the city looks awsome, i found it to difficult to have a good sight where the troops where
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: 7000bc on April 27, 2012, 12:05:28 am
Absolutely orgasmic
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: B3RS3RK on April 27, 2012, 10:46:25 pm
Well I just start games, cheat shittons of gold and continue producing the best units until I can destroy the enemy(Which takes surprisingly long).

But it´s really nice.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: ZEE_BISHOP on April 29, 2012, 09:20:10 pm
Quote from: bruttus on April 26, 2012, 05:56:40 pm
well, in mine opinion, i did a siege where i had to defend Minas Tirith against Mordor
whill the city looks awsome, i found it to difficult to have a good sight where the troops where

Yeah there's a few pathing issues with the new settlements. It's probably why all of the vanilla castles and such are very square. Still really sweet though, much better than any "official" lord of the rings games
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Araxiel on May 01, 2012, 05:29:54 pm
I started playing 3.1 a couple of days ago and its absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Janis_Corp on May 02, 2012, 08:44:28 pm
If u gys wanna Play PM me
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Fips on May 02, 2012, 10:02:30 pm
You really should try out the Sub-Mods, too.
I enjoyed FROME a lot (Too bad there is no 3.1-version out yet) and there are some other huge Sub-Mods, too.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Araxiel on May 02, 2012, 11:35:04 pm
I am playing with Baron Samedi's Gameplay Enhancing Submods Compilation v5.0.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Draggon on May 03, 2012, 01:49:10 am
Man, Third Age was one of my favoritist mods ever.  If they added all these updates to it I may have to dig it out and go at it again.   Loved attacking humongous Orc/Uruk-hai  hordes with much smaller Rohirrim armies.  Epic carnage.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Sir Ryden on May 05, 2012, 08:55:34 pm
i did not know you played this dyna. yeah this is the most well put together mod for total war i've ever seen, perfectly balanced and everything. this and the call of warhammer mod
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: BaleOhay on May 06, 2012, 12:05:45 am
never did any modding to medi 2. It was a great game out of the box. Dusting it off and trying this add on. Any multi player stuff with this? Or all single player based?
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: BaleOhay on May 06, 2012, 10:41:37 pm
the people who made this mod really put in some effort. awesome game. making it feel like new for me. Dwarfie armies attack!! man i wish i had some cav tho hahaha
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on May 07, 2012, 12:38:39 am
Its a really fun mod, and challenigng too if you have it set to very hard both settings. I played as eridor, and reuinted the kingdom of arnor. It was tough gondor got run over by morder right off the bat, and by the time i get down to teh rohan/gondor area mordor and rhun were killing rohan too. rohan had like half their land and gondor had 3 provinces. And this was withotu isengaurd who i rushed and killed right off the bat. I had to send shit tons of armies down to their land for like 100+ turns atleast constantly fighting harad and mordor to try to reestablish rohan and gondor. I was able to re-establish rohan and most of gondor, but i had to invade harad and capture and massacre the populations of all their cities as well as destroy all the buildigns in their cities to stop the endless waves of harad troops into gondor so i could finally restablish it. I remember taking cities with over 100,000 peole in harad and killing all the peopel till there was like 3,000 and no buildings. Scorched earth tactics/genocide won me the game. Mordor fell easily after harad was neutralized.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on May 07, 2012, 07:45:18 pm
Quote from: WarLord on May 07, 2012, 09:23:09 am
Sounds nice! I downloaded and installed everything as the instruction says, but when I load the game and start a battle, it crashes with an "unspecific error" .....

Ya the game has some minor bugs in terms of running the game. I remeber the launcher was a little messed up and i often had to start steam in offline mode and then run the launcher, or start another kingdoms game exit out and then start the third age kingdoms game. I also had the same bug as you a few times, i think checking integrity of game cache or somethign helped a bit, i dont remember the exact solution to the problem but its basic. Maybe moving the installation from one kingdoms game to antother, like from teutonic to americas.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Zanze on May 07, 2012, 10:22:07 pm
Before you hurt yourself, avoid Rhun as the Dwarves until you get crossbowmen. It will be a very annoying challenge until then. (By that I mean field battles, sieges you lol them)
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: BaleOhay on May 08, 2012, 12:02:32 am
yeah i noticed this fighting misty orcs who had a bunch of skirmishers. Had to chase them around the map and devise traps to catch the buggers. Or run like mad till they ran out of ammo.

I have some crossbow and axe throwers now which make life a little easier. Really miss cav. Where are the war pigs when you need them!
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Fips on May 08, 2012, 12:13:44 am
I think in the area of Beorning Dwarves can recruit light cavalry as mercenaries. At least i remember recruitung some while playing the Dwarves of Ered Luin. It's probably just because i played with FROME, but you could at least give it a try.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: BaleOhay on May 08, 2012, 03:11:54 pm
I appreciate that. I enjoy the infantry game but not being able to stop runner or chase down archers quickly becomes a pain pretty fast.

I have gotten decent at walking a unit behind them and chasing them into it. But takes time and leaves one of my units in a tough spot if it gets hit.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Havoco on May 09, 2012, 08:16:19 am
Has anyone else had the crashing on starting battles bug??? It has the weirdest fix Ive ever seen in a game or mod. LOL DAMN U DAYLIGHT SAVINGS

Anyways, Ive been playing Rhun lately and the campaign seems pretty easy so far. I had a few close calls but found that vetted javelin throwers are just beast.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 09, 2012, 10:17:40 am
It's no stainless steel that's for sure.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Knute on May 09, 2012, 07:43:07 pm
Definitely my favorite TW mod next to Europa Barbarium.  I'd buy it.

I like the atmosphere they create with the music and video clips and the way every faction is balanced so you really do feel like you're part of a massive good vs. evil world war that you might lose.  I haven't spent much time with the latest version, but in the last one every time you're doing a little too well the AI would start pumping out these full stack armies in cities under siege or you run into special characters that can wipe out an entire army if you don't have the right thing to counter them. 

Quote from: Lemmy_Winks on May 07, 2012, 12:38:39 am
And this was withotu isengaurd who i rushed and killed right off the bat.

I usually took out the Orcs of Gundabad right away then would recapture the Rivendale from the Orcs of the Misty Mountains and defend the bridges there.  That's about the point when the invasions of Bree would start happening though and then it would just be fighting off hordes of full stack armies.  I never had time to explore all the factions but that was probably the most difficult human one, at least on VH/VH.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: dynamike on May 09, 2012, 08:40:54 pm
Quote from: Sir Ryden on May 05, 2012, 08:55:34 pm
i did not know you played this dyna. yeah this is the most well put together mod for total war i've ever seen, perfectly balanced and everything. this and the call of warhammer mod

Yeah I love this mod - we should schedule a multiplayer battle sometime. Same for you, Mr. Ohay!

My biggest problem with the mod is actually that it plays so versatile and different with each faction that half way into a campaign I get so excited about someone I just fought that I want to start a new campaign with them already  :D


So far my favorite faction to play with (I think) are the elves. It is so epic to shower tons of charging baddies with arrows, breaking up their lines. Then drawing swords and rushing in ridiculously small numbers into the mass of enemies and finishing them of like a boss!
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: BaleOhay on May 10, 2012, 12:22:34 am
would love a multi fight sometime. If you do not already have me Baleohay on steam. Lets get this going.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: agile on May 10, 2012, 01:39:51 am
I've been playing this for about a week now. One question though, how do you get custom settlements or culture? I go to custom battle and want to play a defense at minas tirith but it says I need a large city and custom culture to play in it.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Fips on May 10, 2012, 01:59:10 am
Quote from: agile on May 10, 2012, 01:39:51 am
I've been playing this for about a week now. One question though, how do you get custom settlements or culture? I go to custom battle and want to play a defense at minas tirith but it says I need a large city and custom culture to play in it.

Means you have to add a large city + custom culture to the map. Take a look at the left of the screen where you choose the map. =P
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: agile on May 11, 2012, 05:37:08 am
When I go to the drop down menu its empty.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Havoco on May 11, 2012, 07:25:44 am
Quote from: agile on May 11, 2012, 05:37:08 am
When I go to the drop down menu its empty.

U have to select the settlement level first
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Havoco on May 13, 2012, 04:48:52 am
Just finished the long campaign for Rhun. The most fun I had the whole campaign was fighting Dale and the Dwarves. After that it was just complete annihilation. I had to buy the last 4 settlements from other factions because the dark factions took over the entire map.

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any tips for playing Gondor?
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Count_Curtis on January 27, 2013, 06:45:22 am
I am now playing this mod, so it deserves to be posted in again.

"Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic."

O SHIT
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Fips on January 27, 2013, 11:22:18 am
Okay.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: BASNAK on January 27, 2013, 11:27:08 am
Is that mod still under development, haven't seen any update or news in a long time.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Latvian on January 27, 2013, 11:34:14 am
it might be finished
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Fips on January 27, 2013, 02:49:56 pm
Quote from: BASNAK on January 27, 2013, 11:27:08 am
Is that mod still under development, haven't seen any update or news in a long time.

Yep, it is. Especially the submod-community is very busy.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Angantyr on January 27, 2013, 03:53:58 pm
Excellent mod, too bad I've never really been able to play it much due to the artistic choice of using the movies as reference for unit equipment. My favourite faction Gondor's mainstay infantry simply looks too silly in their plate armor and American Football shoulder pads. Should have gone with the mailles from the books and the Fourth Age mod, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Korgoth on January 27, 2013, 06:50:39 pm
I played Third Age long ago but I havent tried the new settlements. They look fucking epic! Might have to reinstall Medieval just to play it.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Umbra on January 27, 2013, 07:21:11 pm
Have you guys tried Warhammer Total war. Another epic total conversion mod
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Janis_Corp on February 01, 2013, 11:36:17 am
COW are very good mod, if someone play soe games on Third age or Call of warhammer add me under.

{Assas}Janis-Corp  on steam
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: 7000bc on February 02, 2013, 12:24:53 am
Turned into Third Age Total Real Estate after I got Isengard's economy up running, bought out Rohan and am at peace with everyone, but currently buying out Gondor and the Silvian Elves :D
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Umbra on February 02, 2013, 01:10:55 am
What version are you running? I dont think you can be at peace with the "good" factions as Isengard in the newer ones
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: 7000bc on February 02, 2013, 03:40:07 am
3.2?
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Emotion on February 08, 2013, 04:13:29 pm
Quote from: 7000bc on February 02, 2013, 12:24:53 am
Turned into Third Age Total Real Estate after I got Isengard's economy up running, bought out Rohan and am at peace with everyone, but currently buying out Gondor and the Silvian Elves :D

Sounds boring.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Latvian on February 08, 2013, 05:13:58 pm
Quote from: Emotion on February 08, 2013, 04:13:29 pm
Sounds boring.
diplomacy is most powerfull weapon
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Emotion on February 08, 2013, 06:09:57 pm
Quote from: Latvian_Knight on February 08, 2013, 05:13:58 pm
diplomacy is most powerfull weapon

Not in Med II Total War - TATW Mod.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Latvian on February 10, 2013, 10:48:57 pm
i never had such problem, reinstall? try changing any settings? run as administrator?
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Latvian on February 10, 2013, 11:44:14 pm
maybe you know why i sometimes get random game shutdowns? when i sometimes click on factions when starting new campaign it crashes to desktop without any error or when i pick factions in costum battle.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Havoco on February 11, 2013, 02:39:44 am
Quote from: Havoco on May 09, 2012, 08:16:19 am
Has anyone else had the crashing on starting battles bug??? It has the weirdest fix Ive ever seen in a game or mod. LOL DAMN U DAYLIGHT SAVINGS

Anyways, Ive been playing Rhun lately and the campaign seems pretty easy so far. I had a few close calls but found that vetted javelin throwers are just beast.

This may help u guys. Turn daylight savings off if its turned on.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Havoco on February 11, 2013, 03:18:50 am
It's in ur clock settings on ur computer toolbar. Can't remember precisely where, because its been awhile and I'm not at my computer right now.

Also, it might be European summer time if ur in EU
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Havoco on February 11, 2013, 03:51:02 am
I know I didn't get it either.

Well, turning that off worked for me when I got the crashes for starting a campaign. Not sure if that would fix the battle crashes too.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Havoco on February 11, 2013, 04:19:03 am
I hope it works for u.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Latvian on February 12, 2013, 12:11:54 pm
i crashed 2 times in same battle, than i launched game as administrator and it worked, maybe that will work for you as well.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: dynamike on June 17, 2013, 05:41:06 pm
They actually released version 3.2 sometime late last year and I completely missed it:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?500418-Third-Age-Total-War-3-2-Released

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I got back into it (to get warmed up for Rome II) and it plays better than ever! My High Elves are really fulfilling their role of parachuting in and helping out other good factions where needed and its a blast beating those nasty orcs with showers of arrows.

There are also some interesting sub-mods out there that add more factions and tons of other stuff:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?1154-Sub-Mods

Have fun!
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Banok on July 24, 2013, 04:14:16 pm
I never even played any medieval TW, downloaded few days ago and also got third age 3.2 mod.

both alot of fun setting wise, but people said shogun 2 was dumbed down so I was expecting more depth but actually there was just a whole lot less. medieval europe is maybe my favourite TW setting, but I do want tech trees and trading resources etc.

all TW games kind of suffer from the same kind repitition, rome 2 looks brilliant and im super excited but im worried it will end up the same type of repitition in the endgame.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Turboflex on July 25, 2013, 08:14:37 pm
STW2 is a much superior game, CA did actually make quite a lot of gameplay progress in the 5 years between MTW2 and STW2. It's "dumbed down" in the sense that you don't have to micro manage dozens of trivial agents and settlements but overall gameplay is more pleasant and the AI is a lot better. I like the way in RTW2 they are acknowledging the repetition factor and trying to balance the game so there's fewer but more decisive battles, and less stack/siege spam.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Warcat on August 03, 2013, 07:30:14 pm
Definitely one of the better mods that has been made for any game, would be great if something similar were to come out for TWR2 in a year or two.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Taser on August 03, 2013, 08:10:45 pm
I must thank warcat for bumping this...

I never even knew about this. I will be trying this later today. THis looks so awesome.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Fips on August 03, 2013, 08:25:28 pm
Haven't played it in like over 6 months, i shall check out if any of the submods got ready for the game. There were some pretty awesome ones in progress.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Taser on August 06, 2013, 01:20:17 am
Played this some today and yesterday. It is sweet as fuck.

Playing as the high elves right now.. GOt attacked at rivendell with only 2 sword and archer units there. Demolished an orc army that surprised me coming out of the mountains. 1250 vs 350. They got wrecked.

I was really surprised I held and won. Only lost 70 people vs their 800. My units earned every bit of their pay holding rivendell.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Latvian on August 06, 2013, 06:53:46 am
Quote from: Taser on August 06, 2013, 01:20:17 am
Played this some today and yesterday. It is sweet as fuck.

Playing as the high elves right now.. GOt attacked at rivendell with only 2 sword and archer units there. Demolished an orc army that surprised me coming out of the mountains. 1250 vs 350. They got wrecked.

I was really surprised I held and won. Only lost 70 people vs their 800. My units earned every bit of their pay holding rivendell.
when i played elves i spammed archer units and some 4 or 5 infantry units, when you will reach mordor in later phase of game you will see that killing all those OP bastards is hard task and spamming archers seems to be most effective way
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Taser on August 06, 2013, 09:33:09 am
Quote from: Latvian on August 06, 2013, 06:53:46 am
when i played elves i spammed archer units and some 4 or 5 infantry units, when you will reach mordor in later phase of game you will see that killing all those OP bastards is hard task and spamming archers seems to be most effective way

The trolls are the worst of it.. I got ambushed by a small horde of 23 of them. They wrecked a small army I sent to reinforce another town. 300 elves dead and 12 trolls dead. They have insane attack and defense along with the fact that they can run incredibly fast once they get into melee range.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Turboflex on August 06, 2013, 04:47:36 pm
try using ballistas against them
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: bilwit on September 05, 2013, 02:41:55 am
Quote from: Warcat on August 03, 2013, 07:30:14 pm
Definitely one of the better mods that has been made for any game, would be great if something similar were to come out for TWR2 in a year or two.

I wouldn't hold my breathe. It took around 5 years for modders to finally figure out how to have custom buildings and develop tools to properly mod Medieval 2. With each new TW release, CA makes it harder and harder for modders which is an absolute shame because the franchise has such great potential as a mod platform.

I think they're still using some of my work in this mod (Haldir/Boromir/Theoden) unless he redid them between now and 2009ish <3 /self-promotion
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Fips on February 05, 2014, 01:16:14 pm
Started to play this again. Installed the sub mod FROGS (Which i played before already, great addition to the mod!) and currently pwning with the reunited Arnor. Was a bitch to get though. The sub mod makes the Shadow of Angmar (Orcs of Gundabad) quite nasty enemies since Eriador barely has any good units in the beginning and mid-early game. But now the wild men of dunland are making my days hard. The Balance feels very great with that submod, i'm having a hard time on medium difficulty =D

Also, Divide and Conquer is now in open beta status, so be sure to check this sub-mod out as well. I think they got 32 factions in there with plenty of new units and whatnot.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on April 03, 2016, 07:27:42 am
Recently dived back into this, theres been a lot of progress on various submods in the past couple years. My favorite is MOS it adds a couple factions to native TATW and a ton of awesome (and sometimes glitchy) scripted events/quests.
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: DKNhz on April 04, 2016, 11:40:02 am
Nubz, DaC is best of all. It's pure perfection, check the link below.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?667436-Divide-and-Conquer-Version-0-52-Released
Title: Re: Third Age Total War
Post by: Banok on May 06, 2016, 02:53:49 am
yeah I recently started playing DaC sumbod and its really a great upgrade.

I still get fairly consistent crashes like every 4th end turn, but still worth it.