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Deep existetntial questions
« on: February 22, 2020, 11:12:34 am »
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Would you rather never be born and never suffer, or live and have a chance at finding happiness? There is no guarrantee that you will be happy, is possible that you will suffer until you die.

If you could restart your life, but you lose all your skills, memories, etc., you have a hard reset, and you restart in current time as a fetus, would you do it? You would be genetically identical as you are now. You can write down your life story and stuff for your future you to read when you grow up, you can leave money in a bank account, you are the same person, just super younger. Like being your own child, but there is no other parent.

Would you become permanently immortal if you had the choice? With no other bonuses, so you can still suffer, feel pain, get sick, have normal human strength and computing power. There is no way to undo immortality, you are stuck in life forever, for eternity.
What about with the bonuses? If you are also invincible, can't feel pain, nothing can hurt your body, don't need to eat to maintain health, you can run around naked in winter and feel fine. But you stilll have normal strength, so if someone pours molten iron on you, you're stuck.
What if after death there is reincarnation each time, and you don't get to choose what you live as? It mostly depends on where you died, but you can be reborn as anything, for example a fly, a beetle, a fish, a chicken in egg factory, a cow in meat farm, whatever. Wouldn't it be better to be immortal with bonuses, knowing that you will never suffer like those animals do? There is no escape from life, but at least you wouldn't feel pain.

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Re: Deep existetntial questions
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2020, 12:19:23 pm »
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Ever play Warband with cheats? Shit's boring quick.
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Re: Deep existetntial questions
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2020, 02:04:37 pm »
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Would you rather never be born and never suffer, or live and have a chance at finding happiness? There is no guarrantee that you will be happy, is possible that you will suffer until you die.
You can't have no nightmare if you never dream
That's from my little pony and perfectly describes this question. You can avoid all pain for good, but for the price of never achieving happiness. If you want happiness, you need to take the chance of suffering. Or even more, you need to know agony and grief to achieve and truly appreciate happiness. There can't be happiness if there is no grief, because otherwise you wouldn't recognize happiness.
Rainbows won't light up the sky unless you let it rain
That's also from the show. Kinda interesting how much a stupid kids show can teach you about values and mental stability
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If you could restart your life, but you lose all your skills, memories, etc., you have a hard reset, and you restart in current time as a fetus, would you do it? You would be genetically identical as you are now. You can write down your life story and stuff for your future you to read when you grow up, you can leave money in a bank account, you are the same person, just super younger. Like being your own child, but there is no other parent.
No. There's so much shit I don't want to deal with again (being a kid sucks ass) and I wouldn't make some mistakes that were important for my personal growth. Nobody grows up perfectly and we often remember our past fondly, yet I've always enjoyed my times fully and do not wish to go back. It would bore me.

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Would you become permanently immortal if you had the choice? With no other bonuses, so you can still suffer, feel pain, get sick, have normal human strength and computing power. There is no way to undo immortality, you are stuck in life forever, for eternity.
What about with the bonuses? If you are also invincible, can't feel pain, nothing can hurt your body, don't need to eat to maintain health, you can run around naked in winter and feel fine. But you stilll have normal strength, so if someone pours molten iron on you, you're stuck.
Fuck no, immortality is terrible. You would be forced to see friends, lovers, etc die, live through wars/tragedies to come. People who seek immortality never ever think it through. The bonuses are even worse, it would mean that if you'd fall into a pit or something and you couldn't get out, you'd be stuck there for centuries. Sure, your body would be alright, but your mind would be broken beyond repair. There's plenty of stories out there of individuals who got stuck in immortality and lost every bit of sanity due to that. You'll become an immortal, empty hull.

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What if after death there is reincarnation each time, and you don't get to choose what you live as? It mostly depends on where you died, but you can be reborn as anything, for example a fly, a beetle, a fish, a chicken in egg factory, a cow in meat farm, whatever. Wouldn't it be better to be immortal with bonuses, knowing that you will never suffer like those animals do? There is no escape from life, but at least you wouldn't feel pain.
Pain and suffering isn't bad per se, of course the first thing you want when you experience it is to make it go away, just like when you become sick, the only thing you want is to get well again. But it's also an important experience, as already said, you need to know bad to recognise and appreciate good. Just as I learned to appreciate good food and a soft bed so much more after the military. You have to keep reminding yourself how good you're having it and that it could be so much, very much worse.

In a nutshell: Immortality is a curse and if you want happiness you gotta experience sadness. Actively think of how nice things are, appreciate them and be thankful for them.
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