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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #105 on: March 25, 2016, 01:48:48 pm »
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #106 on: March 25, 2016, 02:10:04 pm »
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That is a terrorist act, plain and simple.
If you cannot beat someone's military, you kill unarmed civilians.

If you really believe the shit that pours out of your mouth, never again criticize terrorists's actions.
No, it's something called "total war", simpleton.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #107 on: March 25, 2016, 02:14:29 pm »
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If you really believe the shit that pours out of your mouth, never again criticize terrorists's actions.

Insurgents who have fought for freedom of my country in XIX century and who are viewed as heroes, these days would be terrorists. But there're different kinds of terrorists; those who fight for their country, against occupants. And those who attack Paris and Brussels, because of... what exactly? Because they don't like Belgians?
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #108 on: March 25, 2016, 02:23:57 pm »
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No, it's something called "total war", simpleton.

Call it anything you want, as long as you purposedfully aim for civilians targets (not collateral damage), it is an act of terrorism in the definition of today.
Wars may not be as ritualistic as 2 thousands years ago or even 50 years ago, but today this is how it works, caveboy.
The level of bullshit needed to explain to the world that "total war" acts are needed is just propaganda and will stay like that until war evolves in the "total war is okay" direction. You defend the point of view that it is acceptable, I do not, end of the story.


Insurgents who have fought for freedom of my country in XIX century and who are viewed as heroes, these days would be terrorists. But there're different kinds of terrorists; those who fight for their country, against occupants. And those who attack Paris and Brussels, because of... what exactly? Because they don't like Belgians?

Insurgents who deliberately killed random civilians of an enemy country are terrorists IMO. They can bomb railroads, facilities, governmental offices and attack military targets, and still kill innocent civilians, but thats already closer to collateral than aiming for the killing of the people itself, like Hiroshima and terrorists suicide bombing today.

Those who attack Paris and Brussels, I dont presume to know whats their end goal. Why they do it is easy to understand though, they are fighters of countries that are at war with the West. The West is so powerful that they cant win via conventional warfare, so they go the Xant way and aim for war exhaustion via killing of civilians.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #109 on: March 25, 2016, 02:24:44 pm »
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #110 on: March 25, 2016, 03:05:53 pm »
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Call it anything you want, as long as you purposedfully aim for civilians targets (not collateral damage), it is an act of terrorism in the definition of today.
Wars may not be as ritualistic as 2 thousands years ago or even 50 years ago, but today this is how it works, caveboy.
It's literally the definition, it's not something "I" call it, it's what total war is. No one cares what you think the definition of terrorism is. Reality doesn't change by how someone chooses to define words. If you weren't so dumb, you'd understand that the only reason total war isn't how things are done right now is because all the recent wars have been extremely asymmetric. You can, of course (and no doubt will), continue living in your little bubble and thinking humanity has evolved greatly in one generation, but you'd be wrong. Again, definitions mean absolutely nothing and there is no ultimate arbitrator of moral justice.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #111 on: March 26, 2016, 06:51:36 am »
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #112 on: March 26, 2016, 07:12:18 am »
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Insurgents who deliberately killed random civilians of an enemy country are terrorists IMO. They can bomb railroads, facilities, governmental offices and attack military targets, and still kill innocent civilians, but thats already closer to collateral than aiming for the killing of the people itself, like Hiroshima and terrorists suicide bombing today.

Hiroshima was the headquarters of the Japanese 59th Army, they had 40,000 troops there and lot's of war industry. Over 5 million warning leaflets were dropped in Hiroshima and Nagisaki before the bombing took place, as well in every other city that was bombed.

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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2016, 08:30:01 pm »
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #114 on: March 30, 2016, 09:54:43 pm »
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And what do you mean they seen how badly Muslims have been integrated? On youtube or what like in the videos you posted?
What's so wrong about the videos? A news story from ZDF and another citing Spiegel TV? You don't think teachers and police officers are good enough sources?

Two articles citing mainstream sources:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6264/no-go-zones-germany
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7470/germany-migrants-crime

Any who follow press releases on a regular basis and/or reads crime statistics will know of the problems posed by third world mass-immigration. I was not aware anyone, not even the most casual observers, hadn't yet acknowledged these problems, and I was under the impression what separated people on the issue were the question of how much it bothered them. Particularly after the New Year's Eve assaults which should've awoken even the most comatose from their slumber.

And not only in regards to crime rates of course, identity politics, parallel societies, religious fanaticism, terror, medieval doctrines like the subjugation of women, violence against children, hate of gays and Jews as have been revealed to be preached in Mosques around the UK and Europe (and openly practiced in many Muslim majority countries around the world), are major concerns for a lot of people aswell. And in the Nordic welfare states the pressure put on social services, where half of the Muslim men don't work even in the third generation and many of the Muslim women are not allowed to work due to them not being allowed to be near other men by their husbands. Recently a Danish tv station infiltrated a mosque and demonstrated how imams told members of the community how to best milk the Danish tax payers through social services, even by lying.



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I don't think John Cleese 'believe that 40 years ago everyone in London had pure anglo-saxon genes, went around wearing top-hats, drinking tea, eating crumpets and talking about cricket.'
Rather I think he is talking about facts like the 2011 census demonstrating that people who identify as white British are now a minority in England's capital. These rapid changes can be seen and felt by people all over the country (and in Europe), are not wanted by a majority of UK citizens (57% want status quo or fewer immigrants according to a BBC survey) and are rejected not only due to 'phobias' or 'racism' but for a lot of people on perfectly rational grounds.

No need for strawmen or hyperbole, no one is talking about cultural stagnation; only uncontrolled immigration. The immigration has been happening far too fast for anyone to keep up, police and politicians themselves had admitted so much. Conservatism deals with conserving what's good, not all progress is inherently good, certain cultural traits are good, certain institutions are good, certain ideas are good, multi-culture has failed, even according to European leaders.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #115 on: March 31, 2016, 12:31:48 am »
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There's some truth in it. You look at Molly and think he's nice, friendly guy who wouldn't harm a fly. But if you consider that not so long ago his own grandfather killed no less than 6 milion jews... The devil inside of him may be hidden deep, but he's right there, waiting to awake and strike down with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy his brothers.

Everyone has the devil inside him. It's about controlling it, not denying the truth. But when it comes to Germans, I really do believe most of them would skin us alive if we come to the point where their standard of living is threatened. Happened in the past, will happen again. Is only natural, human life is a struggle. Actually, those people who live in "shitty" way are actually the nicest. You can't be nice and prosperous. Most of us are eating animals we kill in huge numbers on daily basis. Just because we built a system that obfuscates the ugly truth about our good life doesn't mean we are saints who wouldn't hurt an ant. That clean laundry doesn't wash itself ya know, someone has to do it and that someone is doing it for our sake...

So many books and other works of art covered this topic. It is universal truth by now.

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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #116 on: March 31, 2016, 01:22:33 am »
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Only a minority pose problem, and the permanent solution is forbidding everyone to immigrate, even the brave souls ready to work for a new country.
The non-permanent solutions are costy and some inapplicable, like special laws against immigrants/new citizens.
How do you stop people fleeing from their country? Except building a wall, I dont see, and we already have aplenty :wink:

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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #117 on: March 31, 2016, 10:04:32 pm »
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But when it comes to Germans, I really do believe most of them would skin us alive if we come to the point where their standard of living is threatened. Happened in the past, will happen again.

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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #118 on: March 31, 2016, 10:16:20 pm »
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Everyone has the devil inside him.
Just because we built a system that obfuscates the ugly truth about our good life doesn't mean we are saints who wouldn't hurt an ant.

Nah, I'm harmless, unable to harm other human being in any way.
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Re: #dream is alive
« Reply #119 on: March 31, 2016, 10:31:52 pm »
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What a grandiose strawman. Genuinely made my stomach churn.