Solid Builds

[The_Angle]

Archer+1 handed+Shielder.

Build please, I really like the look of these, whether they are battle effective or not.

[Cyclopsided]

going back to the hoplite. Is light armor viable? Or heavy armor essential.

Edit: I'm trying to build off 21/15 but somehow still maintain some speed. I was wondering if I should go light armor/short spear or just go heavy and warspear. Trying to stray from support and being able to fare somewhat better 1v1 w/ the spear.

Light-medium armor.
I wouldn't use heavy armor as a hoplite.
Warspear is great, use it with light armor. Awlpike is better but doesn't fit the style as well.

Archer+1 handed+Shielder.

Build please, I really like the look of these, whether they are battle effective or not.

Oh man, this is an interesting request. These are a really hard hybrid to use well. So many stat points need to be filled for this.
Really the decision is between 21/15 or 15/21. Base it on your playstyle. I listed the inbetween options as well.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 56

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 61
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 138
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
No IF, but otherwise this has everything without cutting anything. Probably best build for an archer/1h/shielder.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 19
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 66

    Attributes to skills: 1

    Ironflesh: 6
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 6
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 61
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 138
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note:do one conversion of attributes to skills, not the other way around as normal. This allows you to have full IF/PS/Shield/Ath/PD/WM. All the skills used.
However, it is a weird build I've never seen before. Interesting though.
I would go 21/15 and just have 0 IF. Listing it anyways

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 53

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 6
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 61
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 147
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Hits a little weaker, has a bit less HP but is a little more accurate and faster.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 50

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 5
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 61
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 156
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
note: Weak but fast. More accurate but you'll be doing a lot less damage.

[The_Angle]

Thanks once again for your services Marathon, greatly appreciated as always!

[SuperSix]

I need a weird build. Looking to have 2h/throwing. Maybe pure PS + Athletics + Throw? I'm looking to use something like light armor, the Nodachi (or heaviest Katana) and throwing stars?

Is this viable at all?

Edit: If this is not viable, should I use the 18/21 build for my character? Again, light armor + heavies Katana. Or should I got more agility oriented?

Many thanks.

[Cyclopsided]

I need a weird build. Looking to have 2h/throwing. Maybe pure PS + Athletics + Throw? I'm looking to use something like light armor, the Nodachi (or heaviest Katana) and throwing stars?

Is this viable at all?

Edit: If this is not viable, should I use the 18/21 build for my character? Again, light armor + heavies Katana. Or should I got more agility oriented?

Many thanks.

This build is a fun hybrid. Light armor 2h(or other melee) + throwing.
Tons of options and flavours. KEEP IN MIND FOR THROWING YOU HAVE TO HAVE WPF TO USE THE LEVEL OF POWER THROW YOU HAVE. 13 WPF PER LEVEL. THIS IS LOWERED BY ARMOR, SO WEAR LIGHT-MEDIUM ARMOR. In all the builds udner I have given you ~20 grace wpf to spare at least. This will allow light armor, and some medium armors. If you see a message saying soemthing along the line s' Throwing skill not high enough' you need more WPF or less armor.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 66

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 7
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 110
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 113

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 63

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 6
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 122
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 115

Nodachi requires 16 Strength.; SO this is a third option for a build if you like to be faster but not hit as hard.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 16
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 57

    Skills to attributes: 4

    Ironflesh: 3
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 5
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 125
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 126

[Keshian]

With the recent horse bump damage multiplier increase there is a new sexy skip the fun build:

Str: 3
Agi: 36

IF: 0
PS: 0
Shield: 11
Ath: 0
Riding: 12
HA: 0
PD: 0
PT: 0
WM: 0

You can have a near unbreakable shield with 88% damage reduction from the 11 shield skill alone and just ride around ona  plated charger (once you can afford it) and rack up 20-30 kills a map just from bumping people to death.  You will be incredibly fast with 12 riding (or you can go 12 shield and 11 riding for 96% damage reduction to shield) and will be a fearsome force on the battlefield.

[BADPLAYERold]

Plated chargers are hilariously bad horses.
If you want to do that build I suggest a mamluk horse.

[Bobthehero]

BeepbeepIamajeep?

[Tears of Destiny]

If you want to do that build I suggest a mamluk horse.

This, it is pathetic when I can side step a plated charger, but that extra bit of speed and maneuverability on Mamlukes (besides them looking substantially more interesting) helps a lot, and not only allows you to net kills easier, but also allows you to survive better.

[Bashere]

Hey the 21/15 1 handed build seems like I can't even get a hit on anyone anymore due to my swing speed. How is this.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Hit points: 60
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 141
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 105
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

[Cyclopsided]

Hey the 21/15 1 handed build seems like I can't even get a hit on anyone anymore due to my swing speed. How is this.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Hit points: 60
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 141
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 105
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

...? Nothing has changed regarding swing speed. The only changes in 0.240 & 0.241 are bouncing off terrain and teammates.
also; get 7 shield 3 if instead on 15/21. If you want to go agi shielder.
If you want to play that character type and enjoy it, by all means do it! It may not be the most effective for everyone, but it might be better for you individually.
Might I ask what weapon you are using, that you are having trouble with swing speed?

[Player_01]

Since my thread has gotten all views and no replies. (And I don't know jack shit about archers)

I really like a lot of the builds you outline and was wondering what you would suggest for a horn bow user in light armor? The direction I wanna take is archer emphasis but I want to have enough "umph" with my melee to whack jackasses that get too close with a single slot 2h or polearm.

[Warcat]

What do you think is the best 13 shield build? 4 Ath, riding, or some other combination.

[Cyclopsided]

What do you think is the best 13 shield build? 4 Ath, riding, or some other combination.

Is this a skip the fun? a permanent level 30? I assume it is. 4 athletics; unless youw ant to be interesting and get 2 ath and 1 ps or 1 PT.
Grinding it to level 31? Laugh and go all out. 14 shield and nothing else. Or get 7 athletics with 13 shield since it is pointless to go higher in shield.
I'd get 4 athletics.

Since my thread has gotten all views and no replies. (And I don't know jack shit about archers)

I really like a lot of the builds you outline and was wondering what you would suggest for a horn bow user in light armor? The direction I wanna take is archer emphasis but I want to have enough "umph" with my melee to whack jackasses that get too close with a single slot 2h or polearm.

So you want an archer/melee hybrid.

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 66

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 50
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 141
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 60

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 5
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 50
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 159
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: faster, can kite. weaker though.

I recommend  the 2h mace for melee.

[Bashere]

...? Nothing has changed regarding swing speed. The only changes in 0.240 & 0.241 are bouncing off terrain and teammates.
also; get 7 shield 3 if instead on 15/21. If you want to go agi shielder.
If you want to play that character type and enjoy it, by all means do it! It may not be the most effective for everyone, but it might be better for you individually.
Might I ask what weapon you are using, that you are having trouble with swing speed?


You mean agi has nothing to do with swing speed? If not what does besides wpf? I just kept getting double swung on constantly. I wasn't able to get a swing off on my turn most times. Now I am 12/20 at lvl 26 and I am finally able to retaliate.

I tried all the weapons but depending on my mood I switch now between 3; elite scimitar, steel pick, and broad one handed ax. I carry a spear as well.