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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #90 on: April 18, 2016, 06:09:04 pm »
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Dunno about black holes containing whole universe(s) but latest theory from Stephen Hawking says something along lines that matter black holes "regurgitate" could contain information about history of our universe.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/stephen-hawking-black-hole-hairs-information-problem-a6819986.html

Apparently, some matter does leave the black hole and information it carries is "encrypted" (randomized, all over the place) or in other ways currently useless for us. My personal belief is that same thing happens with our conscience/mind&soul when we die. Energy transforms but is information it carries truly lost? Maybe there are ways to fix the glass after it shatters, to go back in time? It would render basic laws of physics useless but isn't that we all desire? Anyway, black holes are best thing in universe to research if you want to find out is our knowledge about universe set in stone or just subset of bigger knowledge bank that governs our and maybe many more universes. Problem is, we have no means to directly experiment on black holes. For the time being.

The theory involves hawking radiation and kind of implies that they are actually a star. After trillions of years they expend all their energy and die, then the universe becomes a crazy fucking place. Eventually it gets to a point where the laws of physics as we know them no longer exist and we have no idea what could actually happen. There even could be a big crunch and the universe restarts all over again, in which case I'll be making this post again in an uncountable amount of years. :P
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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #91 on: April 18, 2016, 06:13:12 pm »
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Stars are just definition of celestial object type. Saying black hole is a star means nothing. It all about properties of those celestial objects. Stars don't have same properties as black hole.

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #92 on: April 18, 2016, 06:17:20 pm »
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Stars are just definition of celestial object type. Saying black hole is a star means nothing. It all about properties of those celestial objects. Stars don't have same properties as black hole.

It isn't a traditional star but it would be on the Planck scale, so the theory simply named it a Planck Star because it is easier to understand that way.
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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #93 on: April 18, 2016, 07:22:28 pm »
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Also I just want to mention there are also no guns in space (yet).

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The TP-82 pistol (Russian: ТП-82) was a triple-barreled Soviet firearm that was carried by cosmonauts on space missions.

It was intended as a survival aid to be used after landings and before recovery in the Siberian wilderness. The upper two smoothbore barrels used 12.5×70 mm ammunition (40 gauge), and the lower rifled barrel used 5.45×39mm ammunition. The pistol could be used for hunting, to defend against predators and for visible and audible distress signals. The detachable buttstock was also a machete that came with a canvas sheath.

That could not be used in space though, since it was a regular gun. Due to reduced/no gravity, black powder weapons do not function properly. Traditional firearms would rip Cold War era ships up real bad and then everyone onboard would die. So it's not really a space gun. But this next one is:

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A prototype that was never finished, it's a Soviet laser pistol, designed in 1984. It did not use a battery to produce a laser like modern day laser pointers. Instead, it had a magazine with 8 flashbulbs (yes, like the flashbulb on a camera) as ammunition. The light from the flashbulb was focused inside the gun to create a laser beam. Looking these up I just found out that one of the Soviet space stations had a gun turret mounted to it as well.

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The Salyut 3, although called a "civilian" station, was equipped with a "self-defence" gun which had been designed for use aboard the station, and whose design is attributed to Nudelman.[1] Some accounts claim the station was equipped with a Nudelman-Rikhter "Vulkan" gun, which was a variant of the 23 mm Nudelmann aircraft cannon, or possibly a Nudelmann NR-30 30 mm gun.[12] Later Russian sources indicate that the gun was the virtually unknown (in the West) Rikhter R-23.[13] These claims have reportedly been verified by Pavel Popovich, who had visited the station in orbit, as commander of Soyuz 14.[12] Due to potential shaking of the station, in-orbit tests of the weapon with cosmonauts in the station were ruled out.[1] The gun was fixed to the station in such a way that the only way to aim would have been to change the orientation of the entire station.[1][12] Following the last manned mission to the station, the gun was commanded by the ground to be fired; some sources say it was fired to depletion,[12] while other sources say three test firings took place during the Salyut 3 mission.[1]
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irl something shorted on the shuttle and laika overheated and died within a few hours of liftoff and for a brief while one could look up to the stars and see a light shooting across the sky that was actually a warm dog corpse slingshoting about the earth at thousands of miles per hour which was arguably humanity's greatest achievement so far

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2016, 07:41:13 pm »
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...Due to reduced/no gravity, black powder weapons do not function properly....

You misunderstood something. People believe guns do not work in space because of vacuum, has nothing to do with gravity. Zero gravity certainly helps, because bullet would go on forever, until it hits an object large enough which has its own gravity. That would bring the bullet down.

Modern guns do not need oxygen to properly work, gunpowder they use has everything it takes to fire a bullet (propellant and oxidizer). Biggest issue is how to keep pipes lubricated, because oil won't stay in the pipe like it does on planet Earth.

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #95 on: April 18, 2016, 07:45:14 pm »
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My personal belief is that same thing happens with our conscience/mind&soul when we die. Energy transforms but is information it carries truly lost?
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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #96 on: April 18, 2016, 08:05:35 pm »
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You misunderstood something. People believe guns do not work in space because of vacuum, has nothing to do with gravity. Zero gravity certainly helps, because bullet would go on forever, until it hits an object large enough which has its own gravity. That would bring the bullet down.

Modern guns do not need oxygen to properly work, gunpowder they use has everything it takes to fire a bullet (propellant and oxidizer). Biggest issue is how to keep pipes lubricated, because oil won't stay in the pipe like it does on planet Earth.

You're right, I remembered wrong. The reason traditional firearms were not good for cold war space combat is that missed or ricocheting shots could destroy the ship. Put a hole in the hull, break vital equipment, puncture fuel cells, etc. The laser gun was supposed to be a safe alternative, for when you get boarded by enemy astronauts.

The Cold War was fucked up.
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irl something shorted on the shuttle and laika overheated and died within a few hours of liftoff and for a brief while one could look up to the stars and see a light shooting across the sky that was actually a warm dog corpse slingshoting about the earth at thousands of miles per hour which was arguably humanity's greatest achievement so far

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #97 on: April 18, 2016, 08:20:18 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2016, 06:51:48 am »
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You misunderstood something. People believe guns do not work in space because of vacuum, has nothing to do with gravity. Zero gravity certainly helps, because bullet would go on forever, until it hits an object large enough which has its own gravity. That would bring the bullet down.

Modern guns do not need oxygen to properly work, gunpowder they use has everything it takes to fire a bullet (propellant and oxidizer). Biggest issue is how to keep pipes lubricated, because oil won't stay in the pipe like it does on planet Earth.

Also heat transfer is a problem - at least for automatic weapons.

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #99 on: April 19, 2016, 10:13:12 pm »
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A shame it's so short.

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #100 on: May 27, 2016, 11:51:48 pm »
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aand, rocket number 4 landed. Looks like they really got the hang of it...

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #101 on: May 28, 2016, 02:15:51 am »
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Biggest issue is how to keep pipes lubricated, because oil won't stay iizer). n the pipe like it does on planet Earth.

Would that be a problem, since there is almost no friction in space?
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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #102 on: May 28, 2016, 02:39:17 am »
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Would that be a problem, since there is almost no friction in space?
There is no air friction in space because there is no air in space. All other friction stays the same, so metal on metal is still undesirable. Temperature might be an issue though. One side of the gun gets heated up by direct sunlight, and the other radiates the heat away, so there could be a great difference in different parts' temperatures. Metals expand when hot and contract when cold, and that leads to problems like gas escaping between the bullet and barrel or too tight fitting between them, which can explode the gun. You get much faster overall wear, especially without lubrication. Try draining a car engine's oil, starting it at -50C and flooring the gas pedal. This is the same scenario, but much worse.

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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #103 on: May 28, 2016, 12:06:53 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Space
« Reply #104 on: June 29, 2016, 01:20:18 pm »
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Amazing short with sounds and footage from the voyager missions. I somehow had to shed some tears.  :D

https://vimeo.com/171954101



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