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 Refugees "flooding" Europe are (2 votes max)

Huge problem in my eurocountry
Small problem in my eurocountry
Not relevant problem in my eurocountry
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Help as many of them as possible
Help only a few of them (aka "non muslims" only etc.)
Send them all home
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I'm from Murica
I just want to click somewhere

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« Reply #1215 on: August 11, 2016, 06:31:41 pm »
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The conspirationist theories of "everything was planned from A to B" always fails to impress when you understand that every individual events's conclusions are barely controllable individually, even more so in chains...

There may be people that have pushed in that direction, from parts of a few governments in the world, but to believe that it was more luck than anything, is pure madness. It is not enough to say "this and that, in conjunction, makes sense, so this is why it happened and everybody is part of it", this is juvenile logic.
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« Reply #1216 on: August 11, 2016, 07:56:30 pm »
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Dunno about that Butan, I mean look at Pokemon Go. It is global phenomenon made to attract and control masses and affect their behavior. Why does everybody play Overwatch? Because everybody else does. People like to follow others.

My mom goes to the flea market to buy something specific, sees long line of people waiting to buy something, has no clue what it is, does she need it or not, still stands in a line. I've seen people waiting in lines for hours not even realizing why are they there.

It is not too far fetched to assume that with sufficiently advanced techniques our overlords certainly posses because they came as result of countless experiments on people throughout decades, they are able to push masses in certain direction, effectively creating future situations according to their own will. Do you really think that current behavior of 'civilized' people is natural? That being tolerant is natural? It is more a product of indoctrination, from mass media and other sources after WWII ended to prevent similar disaster to happen. Our true nature is aggressive, deep inside we're just animals who act upon their instincts.

Which is why I believe that it is incredibly easy to change people opinion from one extreme to another, because it is not natural state but learned behavior. That is why keeping things balanced is so damn important.

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« Reply #1217 on: August 11, 2016, 10:58:23 pm »
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Dunno about that Butan, I mean look at Pokemon Go. It is global phenomenon made to attract and control masses and affect their behavior. Why does everybody play Overwatch? Because everybody else does. People like to follow others.

You are absolutely right in believing that people follow others. But you would be wrong if you said that Pokemon GO and Overwatch had predicted their success and had bet everything on that.

The same thing is true for everything that triggered the immigration crisis and everything that is being triggered by it. It was not "created", but after its there and its big, it can be used for political goals. But the line stops there: noone, I say, noone engineered the situation with clear intent and amazing nostradamus skill through all the loops that it needed to jump in to be where we are now. Those that believe so are people with poor logic or political agenda, not interested by truth or facts, just by confirming their own ideas of how the world is.

Its way easier for people to deal with reality when they just have to believe that "someone is responsible for this entire thing". A bit like believing in god if I may add  :P
Plain old action-reaction, chaos, randomness and people fighting in every directions with different results is too tiresome to explain! But to have a quick idea one just have to consult what is the chaos theory.
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« Reply #1218 on: August 12, 2016, 12:53:47 am »
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Easy to predict really. Pokemon is huge in States and rest of the world in full follow mode. Overwatch is Blizzard game, yes they always make them well polished but even if they flop people will buy and play. They have credit.

Have you heard about Battlefront 3 fanmade project? Modders were working on reincarnation of canceled Battlefront 3 and were doing really well (huge interest from internet crowd) until Lucas Arts sent in cease and desist letter. They will keep working on a game but set in their own (mostly generic) sci-fi setting. All of a sudden comments on project changed from 'awesome, will totally play it' to 'you know, when I think about it Battlefront were clunky online shooters and from this perspective doubt I'd be willing to put up with all the flaws if there was no Star Wars license attached to it'. They dun goofed, silly munchkins...

People don't care about context, they learned to be helpless slaves to shiny stuff and follow in footsteps of others. Those circumstances also created people like me, who are overly critical (haters) towards things and act like contrarians most of the time. Truth is somewhere in between, but think closer to my side of spectrum than theirs.

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« Reply #1219 on: August 12, 2016, 09:00:04 am »
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My mom goes to the flea market to buy something specific, sees long line of people waiting to buy something, has no clue what it is, does she need it or not, still stands in a line. I've seen people waiting in lines for hours not even realizing why are they there.

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
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« Reply #1220 on: August 12, 2016, 09:57:25 am »
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It's a well known recorded phenomenon in fairness. If there's a long queue of people plenty of people will join just to see what the fuss is.

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« Reply #1221 on: August 12, 2016, 12:44:53 pm »
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Easy to predict really. Pokemon is huge in States and rest of the world in full follow mode. Overwatch is Blizzard game, yes they always make them well polished but even if they flop people will buy and play. They have credit.

If Overwatch had been bad or there was too good competition at the time of release (to name two), there would have been no worldwide success. For example Heroes of the Storm didnt really make a great impact on the MOBA scene, but its a Blizzard game, its polished and its great, so why it didnt? You can try to look for answers everywhere, but you cannot really tell, nor can you accurately predict.
Same for Pokemon really, there has been a lot of Pokemon iterations and they didnt all work despite being a Pokemon game. To add that Pokemon GO was using VR which is a rather new technology for video games, with near no data on how people view it, it was a huge bet, it worked, why? Same answer than previously.

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« Reply #1222 on: April 03, 2017, 03:06:39 pm »
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« Reply #1223 on: April 03, 2017, 03:14:37 pm »
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« Reply #1224 on: April 03, 2017, 05:03:43 pm »
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Germany died for our sins

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« Reply #1225 on: April 03, 2017, 06:48:33 pm »
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Germany died for our sins

Ah

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4374836/Somalian-asylum-seeker-rapes-two-elderly-disabled-men.html

Stuff like this happens in the US all the time too


20 years in prison for murder? 3 months of community service for gang rape? Yes you guys are in for a big surprise with your weak legal system.
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« Reply #1226 on: April 03, 2017, 08:04:50 pm »
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Actually I despise Hittler. He gave Jews, Muslims and Catholics who were already widely unpopular in the US and UK a powerful huge platform to lash out emotionally without law and reason which gave rise to all this radical left wing ideology you see today that derived from socialism and communism.

National Socialism is just another form of left wing degeneracy. Nationalism goes hand in hand with success, it's not something you can artificially create, and socialism is forcibly or willingly becoming a dependency.

The Anglo-Saxon tradition of law as opposed to acting out on raw emotion is what always separated us from the others.

This is why these seemingly irrational crimes are carried out on a regular basis on natural impulse without thought or logic by refugees from the 3rd world. This kind of random illogical behavior is seen as peculiar in the west, but is viewed as normal and acceptable where they are from, justified by their book of desert fairy tales.


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« Reply #1227 on: April 04, 2017, 09:01:09 am »
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Actually I despise Hittler. He gave Jews, Muslims and Catholics who were already widely unpopular in the US and UK a powerful huge platform to lash out emotionally without law and reason which gave rise to all this radical left wing ideology you see today that derived from socialism and communism.

National Socialism is just another form of left wing degeneracy. Nationalism goes hand in hand with success, it's not something you can artificially create, and socialism is forcibly or willingly becoming a dependency.

The Anglo-Saxon tradition of law as opposed to acting out on raw emotion is what always separated us from the others.

This is why these seemingly irrational crimes are carried out on a regular basis on natural impulse without thought or logic by refugees from the 3rd world. This kind of random illogical behavior is seen as peculiar in the west, but is viewed as normal and acceptable where they are from, justified by their book of desert fairy tales.

Gratz you're even more retarded than Oberyn.
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« Reply #1228 on: April 04, 2017, 10:52:17 am »
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Actually I despise Hittler. He gave Jews, Muslims and Catholics who were already widely unpopular in the US and UK a powerful huge platform to lash out emotionally without law and reason which gave rise to all this radical left wing ideology you see today that derived from socialism and communism.

National Socialism is just another form of left wing degeneracy. Nationalism goes hand in hand with success, it's not something you can artificially create, and socialism is forcibly or willingly becoming a dependency.

The Anglo-Saxon tradition of law as opposed to acting out on raw emotion is what always separated us from the others.

This is why these seemingly irrational crimes are carried out on a regular basis on natural impulse without thought or logic by refugees from the 3rd world. This kind of random illogical behavior is seen as peculiar in the west, but is viewed as normal and acceptable where they are from, justified by their book of desert fairy tales.

National Socialism isn't what you think it is. It has very little to do with socialism at all.

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« Reply #1229 on: April 04, 2017, 11:09:02 am »
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National Socialism isn't what you think it is. It has very little to do with socialism at all.


Honestly the whole ideology was an obvious farse to start with the only success it had was due to extreme socialism and redistributing wealth into state projects . A bunch of guys none of which have blonde hair and blue eyes, some of whom looked like mongoloids convinced Germany that they were the superior Aryyans .

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