Scimitar is a crap weapon and it offers no advantage whatsoever

[Yazid]

[Tydeus]

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that the curve is what makes the weapon glance?

[Yazid]

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that the curve is what makes the weapon glance?

Have you tried that damn thing? Try doing some rounds with scimitar and elite scimitar, and see how terrible a weapon the scimitar is, you're better off with a butter knife from NW

[Tydeus]

Yes, but what does the curve have to do with how often it glances?

In fact the scimitar's curve makes it unrealistically glance like nobodys business

Collision detection, and damage, is the same, regardless of the weapon model. The only differences are found in the weapon type, the exact item length stat, and damage values(such as your PS and the weapon's damage value).

[Dark_Blade]

in native form of the sword meant something in armor break(or damage calculating, not sure) because of hitboxes... and actually curve swords was better then simple ones. not sure how come that scimitar is glancing even here.

[Yazid]

The Niuweidao is a much better weapon much more damage, and faster (how idk) and the chances of it glancing are minimal at best, however the right swing with scimitar glances pointblank, even with enough space to let the arm swing, it doesn't justify its shorter range from the elite scimitar if the scimitar glances more... I think there are plenty other people who know what I'm talking  about, in terms of balance I think this weapon needs serious re-balancing.

[Tydeus]

in native form of the sword meant something in armor break(or damage calculating, not sure) because of hitboxes... and actually curve swords was better then simple ones. not sure how come that scimitar is glancing even here.

It doesn't. Warband creates a straight "bar" that extends from the hand, any time this bar intersects with a player's hit-capsule(when the attacker is in the weapon's release_anim, animation), warband registers a hit. The orientation of this bar depends solely on the weapon type.

Edit for clarification: The only time damage calculations intersect with when and where a weapon hits, is when deciding the bone penalty, and the sweetspot penalty. Neither of these two cases will be affected by a sword's curve, as the collision bar's orientation, as stated earlier, doesn't care about the shape of a weapon's model.

[Gurnisson]

Scimitar is a great weapon that I've been using a lot. If you don't make the curved model your advantage it's not worth it, but if you do, it's awesome!

[Yazid]

It doesn't. Warband creates a straight "bar" that extends from the hand, any time this bar intersects with a player's hit-capsule(when the attacker is in the weapon's release_anim, animation), warband registers a hit. The orientation of this bar depends solely on the weapon type.

Edit for clarification: The only time damage calculations intersect with when and where a weapon hits, is when deciding the bone penalty, and the sweetspot penalty. Neither of these two cases will be affected by a sword's curve, as the collision bar's orientation, as stated earlier, doesn't care about the shape of a weapon's model.

In theory

[Tydeus]

In theory

If by theory, you mean scientific theory? What you're purporting does not stand up to the actual facts of the matter. 

The blade is illusive, that's all there is to it. I'm not saying it has no impact on performance, only that the impact is limited to perception.

[Phew]

By this same logic, the Niuweidao should be vastly better than the Liuyedao. However, most cRPG players would gladly take 1 speed over 1 cut damage, which explains why the Liuyedao is actually about TWICE as popular as the Niuweidao (according to the most recently-posted NA server stats).

Now, the Elite Scimitar happens to be the most popular 1h in NA (way more popular than the Scimitar), but I don't think that has anything to do with more glancing as you claim. At least on NA, the Elite Scimitar achieved legendary status in the hands of Balbaroth, and I think he inspired hoards of copycats (he hasn't played in like a year, but I still see people wearing his gear combo).

The extreme curvature of the regular Scimitar makes it look odd (both for the wielder and opponents), and I guess people just don't like the aesthetics. Stats-wise, the regular Scimitar is quite nice (it's the fastest 1h weapon with anywhere near that much reach), so it's all in your head.

The blade is illusive, that's all there is to it.

[Daunt_Flockula]

It's curvy blade always fools me and I end up getting whipped with it over and over again, thinking "there is no way that thing is gonna reach and hit me from that angle". Needless to say it does everytime.

Can't see why you think it is crap. Some people have been specifically using it quite successfully.

[MURDERTRON]

I think the Scimitar's length stat more closely represents its model than the Elite Scimitar does.  What I'm saying is that Scimitar doesn't have the absurd ghost reach of the Elite Scimitar, and is therefor a much worse weapon.

[Tibe]

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[Sandersson Jankins]

I would take the scimitar over the elite scimitar every time. Speed is essential, and the elite scimitar looks extremely silly to me,.