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Offline Leshma

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2775 on: April 16, 2014, 03:21:23 pm »
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People's Republic of Odessa? I knew it. The moment I heard Russians were taking over Ukrainian ships in Crimea, I knew that at some point they were going make move to seize the whole coast.

And again, in the East soldiers and officers joining pro-Russians. FSB alone has potential to demolish Ukrainian army from the inside. Putin's plan is playing out.

I think its now just a matter of time before Russian troops cross the border.

Good luck to Ukraine and to all of its people.

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However, the Republic ceased to exist when it was sacked by German and Austro-Hungarian troops on March 13, 1918, two months after its creation, following the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk between the Central Powers, Ukrainian People's Republic and Petrograd Sovnarkom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa_Soviet_Republic

These dudes are even dressed as Soviets...

Is Odessa new Bosnia? From what I read they placed barricades on roads... sounds like Bosnia to me. I'm fairly sure that at this point civil war can't be avoided.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2776 on: April 16, 2014, 03:28:14 pm »
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air raid:
 

The "national guard" in search of enemies of Ukraine:

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2777 on: April 16, 2014, 03:30:24 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2778 on: April 16, 2014, 03:34:05 pm »
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Ukraine isnt yet in NATO and they already send ship/airplane/tank to "help bolster security"  :rolleyes:

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2779 on: April 16, 2014, 03:34:51 pm »
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What's the problem? They have to reassure NATO members that they are ready to defend them, that's why there will be theatrics with sending planes, ships and other bullshit in Baltics, Poland and other Eastern European countries. But that's all that is - theatrics.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2780 on: April 16, 2014, 03:41:07 pm »
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Dude, my father never believed Yugoslavia will ever fall apart, no matter how many signs of that were around him. When the war started, I was 5 years old, sitting at my desk drawing bloody Ninja Turtles. Never finished the drawing... when second war started (NATO bombing) I was playing football outside when sirens signalized an attack... was 13 years old atm, now I'm 28 and totally expect it to come again at the time I'll least expect it. Good thing my building still has working atomic shelter...

Also check out this map. It's from some conspirator's blog but that doesn't mean the map is correct.

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According to this map, they will go for western Ukraine as well. And Moldavia.

Many will find this comment inappropriate but this seems to me like "All whores belong to us" situation.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2781 on: April 16, 2014, 03:43:55 pm »
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I believed that since the begining. Actually, since Crimea. Putin is playing to win big.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2782 on: April 16, 2014, 03:47:09 pm »
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For some reason I don't think this will go as easily as with just Crimea.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2783 on: April 16, 2014, 04:07:50 pm »
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Leshma,
Don't be sad!
You know what was the name of  Donbass (not even a lot more territory) in the 18th century? Slavicserbia and New Serbia!  8-)

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2784 on: April 16, 2014, 04:14:53 pm »
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War involving Russia since Putin became president in 1999:

- 1st-2nd-3rd Tchetchen War (1999-present)
- Georgia War (2008)





War involving USA since 1999:


- Kosovo War (1998-1999)
- Afghanistan War (2001–present)
- Philippines War  (2002-present)
- Sudan-Somalia-Djibouti-Ethiopia-Eritrea-Seychelles-Kenya War (2002-present)
- Second Liberian War (1999-2003)
- Iraq War (2003-2011)
- Pakistan War (2004-present)
- Trans Sahara War (2007-present)
- Yemen War (1998-present)
- Libyan War (2011)



War involving Europe since 1999:

- France interventions in Africa and Europe support sent for USA



Putin is playing to win big.


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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2785 on: April 16, 2014, 04:24:53 pm »
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Dave would not allow it, he Use all his two education to enlighten people on the streets!
Not a lot about Odessa:
 
Ukraine ready to repel an attack from the sea!
 

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2786 on: April 16, 2014, 04:26:10 pm »
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Seems to me that when you say freedom of mind and expression, you will tolerate only one view on things and completely disregard the others. How exactly that makes you different from Russians, aside from taking opposite stances?

When I'm talking about freedom expression, I'm talking about freedom of expression, not something else. I have opinions, you have opinions, everyone of us can express them, but that doesn't mean I have to agree or even listen to what you say. Of course, the decision of agreeing or not, listening or not is strictly individual, otherwise it's not freedom of expression. Just like freedom of religion means that choosing your beliefs is a strictly individual matter.

I do not try or want to muzzle people like Ivani, but I still can call them Putin apologists and argue against them.

War involving Russia since Putin became president in 1999:

- 1st-2nd-3rd Tchetchen War (1999-present)
- Georgia War (2008)

War involving USA since 1999:

- Kosovo War (1998-1999)
- Afghanistan War (2001–present)
- Philippines War  (2002-present)
- Sudan-Somalia-Djibouti-Ethiopia-Eritrea-Seychelles-Kenya War (2002-present)
- Second Liberian War (1999-2003)
- Iraq War (2003-2011)
- Pakistan War (2004-present)
- Trans Sahara War (2007-present)
- Yemen War (1998-present)
- Libyan War (2011)

War involving Europe since 1999:

- France interventions in Africa and Europe support sent for USA

This again ? Can you be on topic for once ?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2787 on: April 16, 2014, 04:35:03 pm »
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Leshma,
Don't be sad!
You know what was the name of  Donbass (not even a lot more territory) in the 18th century? Slavicserbia and New Serbia!  8-)

I'm not sad. I just had enough war in my life, don't want to go through it again. In the 18th century real Serbia was under Ottoman occupation...

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War involving Russia since Putin became president in 1999:

- 1st-2nd-3rd Tchetchen War (1999-present)
- Georgia War (2008)

Well, Russia is obviously satisfied with the current situation. War will happen in case of civil unrest (pro russian vs pro western) or in case NATO decides to intervene.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2788 on: April 16, 2014, 04:35:58 pm »
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Many think that without Putin this wouldn't happen. And they are right. If someone else was in charge this most likely won't happen. Two examples what could happen:
  • If Russian president was a western puppet, none of this would happen but I fear that is impossible because Russian people would probably execute such president
  • If Russian president wasn't ex-KGB agent but rather some military hothead like Stalin was, this wouldn't happen at all. There would be no infiltration, no sabotage, no insurgents. There would be tanks, thousands of dead people on both sides.



If Russian president wasn't ex-KGB agent? He would had a deadly accident/cancer...
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2789 on: April 16, 2014, 05:42:23 pm »
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And your point is?