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Offline Christo

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7800 on: January 22, 2015, 10:17:27 am »
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Place has a fuckton of holes, think of the drunkards falling into them over and over while trying to fix the landing strip  :lol:
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7801 on: January 22, 2015, 10:17:49 am »
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The Donetsk 'Airport' has fallen into the hands of the separatist vermin lately.
Well it won't see a plane landing there in a while based on its condition, that's for sure.
He was held not for strategic purposes, but political. I'm sure in the next two days will be found guilty traitor, and Poroshenko promises to recapture it. And will be sent to the death of a couple of hundred kids for to maintain political rating.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7802 on: January 22, 2015, 10:18:22 am »
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spasibo sherlock

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7803 on: January 22, 2015, 10:21:27 am »
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spasibo sherlock

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By the way, recently published a video on which some freak argues that in the next few weeks the Kolomoiskiy's army of mercenaries begin  takeover it will begin in Dnepropetrovsk ^^
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7804 on: January 22, 2015, 11:23:44 am »
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million man strong?  :shock:
in the days of the Soviet Union they mb have  like 800 thousand, in 2012 it was 200ะบ and continued to reduce,
add to dat ~20 territorial defense battalions from 100-to 1k man in each and 50k from mobilization and so i think its 300k max but mb i wrong.

Also even 1 mil cant win if they receive orders from apes
Active personnel   250,800 (8.2015)
Reserve personnel   720,000 (12.2014)
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7805 on: January 22, 2015, 12:13:13 pm »
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Active personnel   250,800 (8.2015)
Reserve personnel   720,000 (12.2014)
Unless they plan to repeat Stalingrad ^^ 1 rifle for two soldiers
for 2015 is planned to mobilize 200k, ie an increase in the army almost doubled, apparently all goes bad for ua army
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7806 on: January 22, 2015, 12:42:51 pm »
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Unless they plan to repeat Stalingrad ^^ 1 rifle for two soldiers
for 2015 is planned to mobilize 200k, ie an increase in the army almost doubled, apparently all goes bad for ua army
Weird if they don't have rifles for all of them, considering how cheap AKs are.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7807 on: January 22, 2015, 01:10:02 pm »
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Weird if they don't have rifles for all of them, considering how cheap AKs are.
  I'd rather talk about military vehicles, at the last press conference with Ukrainian military prisoners from the airport, they said that their crew the car was assembled from four different crews, but their car broke down half way. So after four months of training man was captured on the second hour of battle, because his car broke down. Of course it is possible prapoganda, but taking into account age vehicles, I am inclined to believe.
 

 in chechnia was the same, on the TV show the newest models of tanks and helicopters, but the soldiers fought on the buckets. At the same time the oligarchs make money using his connections in the headquarters.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7808 on: January 22, 2015, 05:56:49 pm »
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Damn, those Ukrainians are clearly getting help from western puppetmasters. Why would they have cars breaking down otherwise?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7809 on: January 22, 2015, 07:57:16 pm »
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Damn, those Ukrainians are clearly getting help from western puppetmasters. Why would they have cars breaking down otherwise?
there is no reason to spend extra money to rescue the soldiers if there 720,000 in reserv (12.2014)
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7810 on: January 23, 2015, 08:54:26 am »
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So what's actually going on in Ukraine with the fighting? Like, how are the battles being fought? How has it lasted this long? Why isn't the government's military able to defeat the separatists? They're obviously backed by Russia, but since Russia is still trying to maintain some plausible deniability, the backing shouldn't be enough to let the separatists manhandle a government army a million man strong... so what gives? I'm under the impression only a fraction of the Ukrainian military is mobilized and fighting. Why? It seems like all the fighting is super half-hearted. Got to be, or it'd be over, one way or the other.

Ukrainian army is currently blocked in its actions. Ukrainians can't use artillery as actively as it's needed because pro-russian forces are shooting from cities, that would mean a total annihilation of everything inside cities including civilians. If a single explosion in the city which takes several lives of civilians gets such a huge social coverage in media imagine what would happen if you widely use artillery with that capacity of troops on such a small territory (nothing to say about thousands of dead civilians each day if not hour of such usage of artillery). Same things go for air forces and so on. Basically pro-russians are having unlimited amount of everything, it's like playing against a cheater, you kill 10 of his tanks and 300 of infantry and on the very next day he gets new. Backing by Russia can have any amount of troops/weapons. At this point Ukrainian military system works a lot on its reserve personnel to be ready for full scale invasion, also time works for Ukraine now as Russia suffers economical crisis by now. If it was up to me - I would leave the whole situation there as it is, live of people are not worth it. Also people need time to understand and compare.

As Vovka stated correctly, Donetsk Airport was not a strategic place, rather a political. There was no strategic sense to hold it as neither russian nor ukrainian aircrafts could land there, you need just 1 day of artillery work to make it impossible to land. Ukrainians held it until everything got destroyed but pro-russians on their hand didn't actively try to capture it during all those 200 days, was more like attempts with breaks.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7811 on: January 23, 2015, 11:20:56 am »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7812 on: January 23, 2015, 11:48:00 am »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7813 on: January 23, 2015, 12:49:54 pm »
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Good guy Putin, makes sure the bear doesnt run out. If it does, its gonna go apeshit and kill everything. Atleast this way it will eventually overdose.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #7814 on: January 23, 2015, 01:19:58 pm »
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