Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Kuujis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

[DaveUKR]

But how do you know who is who? You can't even distinguish where is pro-russian/pro-ukrainian. Same shit goes for Butan. How could your info have any value then? 

[Christo]

But how do you know who is who? You can't even distinguish where is pro-russian/pro-ukrainian. Same shit goes for Butan. How could your info have any value then? 

This.

Like it or not Dave destroyed one of those picture "facts" here a few pages back, and if I remember right complete silence followed it.

[Molly]

Well, tbh... gimme 2 hours and I craft a completely different story out of all those pictures, giving only the pro-rus dudes the blame.

If you accept that "thing" as truth... well, I wouldn't even know where to start laughing about you.

Grab a few pictures, mark them with red arrows, dots, circles and anything else Paint.exe lets you draw, come up with some probable explanations that fit your side of the story and piece everything together...

Those picture-stories are the very last source of information I'd ever consider.

[Kuujis]

This.

Like it or not Dave destroyed one of those picture "facts" here a few pages back, and if I remember right complete silence followed it.

Also - lets maybe fast roll back to the places where "little green men were not russian special forces", then fast forward to putler admitting contrary, then lets enjoy Butan not believing even putler, because <some reason> 

Except this was not silence for me, I laughed loud 

[Armpit_Sweat]

What I can say for sure is that obviously pro-Russians just entrapped their own people.

-_-

This is a bit too far... Even for Adolf Kim Jon Osama bin Bundy type. 9/11 CIA conspiracy level shit.
"Special toxic substances" - wtf...

Will make a tinfoil hat when I'm back home from work.

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Have to occam's razor here. Russians burning themselves, and eating special toxic substances to make Ukranians look bad?.. Or angry Ukranians throw molo's to force Russians out of the building?

Now i am not saying it's not a provocation, since i have no idea, but it sounds crazy. God help Ukraine!

[LordBerenger]

I just don't like Russia or its history and politics.

Didn't like Tsar Russian history. Didn't like Lenin. Didn't like Stalin. Don't like vodka fetish. Don't like kremlin. Don't like ballet. Don't like kalinka. Don't like Soviet Union. Don't like Bolsheviks. Don't like communist history of Russia.  And i don't like Putin.

[Butan]

What I can say for sure is that obviously pro-Russians just entrapped their own people.

Re-read twice, still not sure if trolling or just brainwashed.

[Panos_]

Re-read twice, still not sure if trolling or just brainwashed.

lol!

Stfu butan, you`re a retard/idiot/moron who supports russian fascistonazees.

You`re dumb, and only people who support Ukraine are smart, its obvious that Putin himself strangled that pregnant wife

[Butan]

The worst part of all this is that its not that hard to understand and acknowledge that there is some ukrainians that could and have done this.

Dave shouldnt feel guilty because they share the same nationality, and should be able to tell them for what they are : violent extremists.
Probably the same kind of people that were at Maidan bearing the brunt of the unshackled action that cost many people their lives

[Kafein]

The worst part of all this is that its not that hard to understand and acknowledge that there is some ukrainians that could and have done this.

Dave shouldnt feel guilty because they share the same nationality, and should be able to tell them for what they are : violent extremists.
Probably the same kind of people that were at Maidan bearing the brunt of the unshackled action that cost many people their lives

Even if the bandera natzee are responsible, it's still not a reason to wholesale euromaydan as a fascist coup.

For the same reason, the unrest in the eastern regions is not a proportional response to the actual events in Kiev. It's a proportional response to a fascist coup, which is what the Russian-speaking media that the easterners are watching is describing. Remember Crimea ? I would also chose Russia rather than Nazi Ukraine, even if I had no love for Russia.

Besides, those Right Sector boy scouts are not any worse than Jobbik or Golden Dawn. Every criminologist will tell you that opportunity is the most important component.

[Leshma]

Well, Dave is Ukrainian and is in Ukraine atm so it's perfectly understandable that he doesn't believe anything Russian side says or do. It's easy to pick sides in front of a monitor miles away from actual conflict which pretty much doesn't concern you in the slightest bit (yet). When you're living in an area affected by civil war or it is close to happening you need to act accordingly. All logic goes out of the window, only opinion allowed are: are you for us or for them? Do you know what happens to Ukrainian who tries to help his "pro-russian" buddy (not real protester, just someone who has some russian relatives) when they meet Right Sector gang? They both end up dead, first labeled as traitor of his own nation...

[Vovka]

But how do you know who is who? You can't even distinguish where is pro-russian/pro-ukrainian. Same shit goes for Butan. How could your info have any value then? 

Who cares who is who if they all Ukrainians and kill each other just for different views on the future of the country?

[Butan]

Even if the bandera natzee are responsible, it's still not a reason to wholesale euromaydan as a fascist coup.

Who did? Not me. Because I dont have this opinion.

For the same reason, the unrest in the eastern regions is not a proportional response to the actual events in Kiev. It's a proportional response to a fascist coup, which is what the Russian-speaking media that the easterners are watching is describing. Remember Crimea ? I would also chose Russia rather than Nazi Ukraine, even if I had no love for Russia.

And Maidan was a proportional response to choosing a Russian commercial agreement instead of a European one?...

Your statement lack profound background checks.

[Kuujis]

Who did? Not me. Because I dont have this opinion.

Panos did it

And Maidan was a proportional response to choosing a Russian commercial agreement instead of a European one?...
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Yes it was.