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General Off Topic / Re: What are you listening to?
« on: January 04, 2016, 02:39:26 pm »
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General Off Topic / Re: Why the fuck are you reading this
« on: January 01, 2016, 04:57:27 pm »
Was in a club, there was no countdown or announcement when it was a new year. So I missed it. But on the brightside I met a very hot grill.
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General Off Topic / Re: CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS.
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:02:29 am »
Stupid sexy boys
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General Off Topic / Re: cRPG manlet thread
« on: December 22, 2015, 11:07:05 am »
1.88m, wish i was a bit shorter doe
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General Off Topic / Re: "I tripped and fell" isn't apparently just a joke
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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Hungary
« on: November 27, 2015, 01:03:40 pm »
You in Latvia and Poland and Serbia and Bulgaria and Ukraine and Romania and Czech Republic and Slovenia and Croatia and Estonia and Lithuania and Slovakia and Hungary and Bosnia and Moldova and Albania and Monteblack in spanish can all join Russia together and you can be together with everyone yay. Free vodka for everyone
Albanians are not slavs.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 18, 2015, 08:54:54 pm »I agree with some points here, even though its very hard to see real opinions through all the sarcasm.
Where I dont get it is you seem to blame the buffet-religious as much as the ones going by the book. The cherry-pickers didnt wait for Islam to reform itself from all the over-the-top agressive expansionism surats, isnt that good?
Of course secularism and cherry picking in religions is preferable to people following violent parts of their faith. But the thing I don't understand is how people can still believe in a religion they have to cherry pick and say "but its metaphorical" and "God works in mysterious ways". I prefer argumenting religion with fundementalists because it is clear what they follow and they truely believe in their religion. People that cherry pick their religions on the other hand just make up shit as time goes and are slippery as fuck and will twist and interpret their holy scriptures in anyway just to make excuses to believe in their religion.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 18, 2015, 03:04:29 pm »This you Oberyn?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/991322/man-pushes-muslim-woman-into-oncoming-underground-train-in-london/
Just because one dislikes a religion it doesn't automatically make you a hater of every follower of that religion.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 17, 2015, 10:40:15 pm »26
General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 17, 2015, 10:03:07 pm »All 3 religions see parts of the Old Testament as being divine.
This is absolutely not true. Muslims believe that the bible is heavily fabricated and modified, and all the stories about old prophets such as Abraham, Moses and so on are quite different and so is Gods behaviour in them, if you compare the quran and bible. The bible stories tend to be mega fucked up, while the quran stories are more refined, but not as fucked up.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 17, 2015, 08:04:24 pm »The behaviour and attributes of God is consistent between Christianity, Judaism and Islam in the Old Testament.
Christianity branches off cos it has a new testament where we're forced to believe that either God got replaced by a calmer God somewhere between testaments, or he really mellowed with age and stopped smiting people/wiping out their first-borns and started talking about loving one another and treating others as you would wish to be treated.And then you also happen to know that Christians believe that Jesus is God, and he is also a spirit a father. Which both Islam and Judaism deny, and then at the same time you claim in the first quotation i made that the attributes of God is consistent in the three faiths. So no they are quite different, which you also say in the second quote. And the stories in the bible are different in the Quran, where god acts differently.
And when you say "they all believe in the God of Abraham" that is incorrect. The Christians believe in a God that is defined by the trinity and the Jews believe in a God that is not. Now there's only one God speaking to Abraham in the bible, and the attributes of God differ between these two religions. The Muslims believe Abrahams God was their God. In fact Muslims believe that every prophet in the bible was a Muslim and spread Islam, but the religion was corrupted with time into other religions such as Judaism and Christianity where polytheism and kufr was introduced, and then Muhammed was sent as the final prophet to reestablish the religion. So they believe that they used to believe in Allah, but deviated and are praying to idols, and other gods or deny the attributes of God. Even in the hadith the Jews mock the Muslim God in debates with Muhammed, where they call Islam's God poor because its an obligation for Muslims to pay zakat (http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=759&Itemid=60 Too much to quote read this site if you care).
And:
http://islamqa.info/en/67626
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The Jews and Christians are both kaafirs and mushrikeen. They are kaafirs because they deny the truth and reject it. And they are mushrikeen because they worship someone other than Allaah.
Anyways it's quite subjective like I said, if your assumption is that they believe in the same God, because the religions share same roots then so be it. I don't think they should be considered the same God because if you compare the three they are different. But the respective followers of each religion believe it's their God in the stories.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 17, 2015, 06:44:29 pm »It's called the Old Testament in Christianity, all the Abrahamic faiths have it in common. The behaviour and attributes of God is consistent between Christianity, Judaism and Islam in the Old Testament.
Christianity branches off cos it has a new testament where we're forced to believe that either God got replaced by a calmer God somewhere between testaments, or he really mellowed with age and stopped smiting people/wiping out their first-borns and started talking about loving one another and treating others as you would wish to be treated.
It's the same God, 'Allah' is literally just their word for God and they have the Old Testament in common. It's kinda like saying 'These French Christians are weird, they all worship some guy called 'Dieu' instead of God. Such sacrilege!'. Think of the spectrum of different Christian denominations that all see and worship God in different ways, they aren't different 'Gods'.
Christians belive in the trinity amongst other things, which is completely rejected in Islam and considered to be polytheism. And the god in the old testament is quite different in behaviour compared to the new testament. If your argument is that because someone believes in a god they believe in the same god, then you could also include countless other religions as believing in the same God. Such as hinduism (where some sects believe all the gods are actually one god) or Zorostrianism. This is a pointless discussion because it's only a matter of word play.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 17, 2015, 11:15:58 am »Step aside I got this.
Allah = God . Its just in Arabic. i.e. God means Tanrı in Turkish coming from Tengri it can always be used as Allah ( Muslims wouldn't like that tho )
It is "la ilahe illallah" which means Allah is the only one.
also p.s. : the word Allah was used to refer to the God before Islam aswell.
and Illah means Divine
The shahadah goes like "there is no god but Allah". And both the words Illah and Allah are used. Illah being any other god or divinity, and Allah meaning the one god. I personally don't like when people claim Christians believe in the same god as the Muslims. Because the behaviour and attributes of the Christian god is completely different compared to the Muslim one. Muslims believe the true Christians back in Jesus time used to believe in the true God but, have since then strayed from the "true path". The Jews however believe in a god that closer resembles the Muslim one.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 17, 2015, 02:00:03 am »Pepe, Allah is just the Arabic word for God, i assume it's not the name of who they worship.
I'm no Muslim so correct me if i'm wrong. But it's like you have created a list of names there
Just responding to this quickly and I'm not looking up the things I'm about to say. I think the Arabic word for God is Illah, and Allah means The God, meaning the only god. The definitions of what god is differs drastically between Muslims and Christians.