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« on: November 07, 2011, 10:19:10 pm »
You guys have clearly lost the route of this thread. Thax was saying about nerfing archers damage against plate.
Why the heck do you think that Xbows were made, as knights amount increased? Yes, it was to pierce that freaking thick plate, which normal (even pierching) arrows couldn't do.
You guys like to praise that Warband is most realistic ancient "simulator", but I can't see this happening as normal archer can kill a KNIGHT?!
Wake up, how many times you have heard from stories/documents (other than Robin Hood) that normal peasantarcher have killed fully equipped knight? I havent neither.
I can get the idea that Enlighsmens longbows could kill knights, but hey, they had always over 2000 archers ready to fire death upon incoming knights, ofcourse that amount got easily find those little gaps in armor.
Straight shot with piercing arrow just can't go trough plate, it its impossible!
"Armour penetration"
It has been suggested that the bodkin came into its own as a means of penetrating armour, but research by the Royal Armouries has found no hardened bodkin points, though only two bodkin points were actually tested, not a statistically relevant number. Bodkins did, however, have greater ability to pierce mail armour than broadheads, and historical accounts do speak of bodkin arrows shot from close range piercing plate armour. Broadheads were made from steel, sometimes with hardened edges, but were more often used against lightly armoured men or horses than against an armoured adversary.
In a modern test, a direct hit from a steel bodkin point penetrated Damascus chain armour, although at point blank range. However, the test was conducted without a padded jack or gambeson, which was layered cloth armor worn over heavier armor for protection against projectiles, as it was known to stop even heavy arrows. Furthermore, and despite the author's assertion, the penetration ability of the arrow would decline according to the distance it has traveled due to drag. Lastly, a human body standing will give, another factor not accounted for in this experiment.
Some recent tests have demonstrated that needle bodkins could penetrate all but heavy steel plate armour; one test used padded "jack" armour, coat of plates, iron and steel mail and steel plate. A needle bodkin penetrated every type, but may not have been able to inflict a lethal injury behind plate.
Here is text from wikipedia for all you whiners, who want to say that it could be possible.
It is damn annoying to fight as a 2 hander, when you know that even one good shot from archer can deal over half of damage (8 if for me).
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