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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 11, 2014, 12:03:35 am »
Quote from: Xant on November 10, 2014, 01:02:50 am
Look at your exact Tovi-ness, instantly moving on after your accusations are proven retarded.

So got any proof I believe in "Iraq's WMDs, in 30 Russian invasions in Ukraine and in children killer Netanjahu's warning"? If not, then you're just speaking out of your ass, confirmed. You make this too easy.

Well, if you think you have proven my accusations retarded, then I will let you live in your dream world.
I hope you know who started insulting and simply badmouthing the other one for no reason, who is raging against the other one like mad, who sees the other one a hard nut to crack, who actually brought arguments123, who thinks he is so much better by claiming to have the arguments of the other one proven retarded, while leaving out aspects which at first appear to be an advantage for oneself, but actually just make the other one look better - just to not risk that the own opinion gets damaged.
=> I hope you know who is making a fool of oneself while not even noticing it.

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1In 1882, a Rothschild member bought land in palestine (Zikhron Ya'akov and Rishon LeZion), which was later given to the Jewish Colonization Association.

2And in 1917, another Rothschild received a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour, in which is said:
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3In 1924 that first Rothschild founded the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association which bought more than 500 sq km (193.05 sq mi) of land and in the time between 1887 and 1925 he went to Palestine five times to see how his colonies are.

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 09, 2014, 08:13:20 pm »
Look at all those anti-Semites!
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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 09, 2014, 05:07:18 am »
Quote from: Xant on November 09, 2014, 02:16:27 am
Seriously, people like you will believe fucking anything. It's amazing how your conspiracy nut brains work. You post all these pointless videos and see ghosts and aliens and deep conspiracies in them, no matter what is actually happening or being said in them.

I can only retort this to you. You are just on the "other side". :wink: I mean, you believe in Iraq's WMDs, in 30 Russian invasions in Ukraine and in children killer Netanjahu's warning:
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How can one even dare to discuss with you :rolleyes:



Quote from: Xant on November 09, 2014, 02:16:27 am
Meanwhile, normal people laugh their asses off at you.

I expected that to come at 100% :D Yeah, nowadays it's indeed unnormal or uncommon to question something different... People like me who actually question other things than people like you do are getting verbally suppressed, insulted and marked down as totally insane psychopaths (conspiracy theorists), also publicly, nationwide. That's for sure. But why? Isn't it in a democracy like everyone can say his opinion freely? Why are some critical voices silenced (if they speak against the published and often public opinion) and others aren't? By the way, I still wonder why I get downvoted if I am against public nazi propaganda which is also used on children. I rarely saw hatred against a person taking over someone that heavily, but okay, that's a different issue...




It's a deceptive title, but it's still interesting content (well that owl symbols etc. is bullshit but there are also people who beat around the bush...).

Or this one: watch from 6:03 to 9:32. The first part with the Kennedy speech is cut in favor of the uploader, I have heard the whole speech and he's rather talking about communism and the Cold War. Yes, I am able to face things which might counter my view on things afterwards.


And if you ever find quotations like "we just need the right major crisis" from David Rockefeller or "There is a plan going on to enslave everyone, I will expose this plan before I leave this office" from JFK: These two quotations are wrong and completely made up or pulled out of context. That's what I have found out when I found these two.



Quote from: Christo on November 09, 2014, 02:21:32 am
So, why pick out Rotschild only?

Because of the quotes I wrote. And Rothschild is the part I firstly heard something about, I am currently mostly interested in and it's the part I know most about in relation to the other parts.



Quote from: Lt_Anders on November 09, 2014, 03:50:52 am
Jews, that's why. :lol:
Quote from: Christo on November 09, 2014, 04:41:42 am
I know, but that is a fucking retarded view on this  :lol:

Yeah, of course, come on, call me anti-Semite, nazi or whatever, just because I also help Jews by criticizing those banksters/robbers. :lol:



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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 09, 2014, 01:52:32 am »
Quote from: Xant on November 08, 2014, 11:51:23 pm
Why exactly did you post that? To share some very embarrassing people spouting even more embarrassing crap at an old man? Seriously cringe-worthy, especially when they announce proudly that the "NEW WORLD ORDER HAS NO LEGITIMACY AND WE AS A PEOPLE ARE NOT AFRAID!!" So many different levels of retard.

You make fun of these guys while the Rothschild bankster laughs at you...


"New World Order, Mr. Rothschild?" - "Oh! Listen, who, who, who, who are you, who are you televising for?"


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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 08, 2014, 11:17:02 pm »
Quote from: Lt_Anders on November 08, 2014, 04:05:49 pm
Oh, really, we buy most of our oil from Saudi?

of the 290k Barrels imported, 120k come from 2 countries in our sphere. Venzula and CANADA(more than half of all Imports) Mid-East Countries supply only 60k barrels 40% less than Canada alone. In addition, 89K Barrels come from NON-OPEC countries. (All per month, you can display this data in yearly to)

Please, fact check yourself before you pump out useless bullshit.
(We get 9k and 1k barrels from Iraq and Kuwait, way less than we produce domestically or import from our bestest friend Canada.)
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

Please tell me where I wrote that the US imports most of the oil from Saudi Arabia. However, I won't say anything against your figures.

Let me explain why I think the US is waging these wars just for getting mining rights in these resource-rich countries: the US have the highest debt in the world (almost 18 trillion US-$). And in this capitalistic system we live in, debt and assets grow exponentially due to the compound interest. Money is only existent (owned by the "1%", the more they own the mightier they are) if there is debt, you can't pay back all your debts as a state, otherwise there would be no money. Debts only appear if you borrow money. And if a state raises debts, they are shifted on the citizens since they have to pay for them (the "99%"). In German there is a funny and interesting wordplay: the German word for "citizen" and the word for "bail for sth." are the same. Would be something like "bailer" in English. Anyway, who should pay the interest the debt causes? Where to get the equivalent value from? One does not simply make up two big lies for two wars against a resource-rich country! Delaying the "payback" of debt only makes the situation more harsh. A good example is Greece. More than 170% debt-to-GDP ratio. The debt cut in 2011/2012 did not work at all. Look at all the protests in Europe or the Greek parliament. The Europe-splitter "Euro" will fall, so will the Dollar and thus the US hegemonial power due to the angry and furious people who get ousted and exploited. Sounds like a speech full of hatred - well, it is but it's what happens atm.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." -Henry Ford

Or have you ever heard of the dynasty "Rothschild"? They own the FED among other families. FED is the privatized federal (yes, you heard right) bank in the US which can print money as much as it wants and thus it controls the Dollar. And, you know...
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"Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” -Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the dynasty

"The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” -Rothschild brothers of London, 1863

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NA (Official) / Re: Ban Cheese_of_War
« on: November 08, 2014, 03:08:55 pm »
He just destroyed the equip box and hit the Viscount several times now. There should be another topic soon in EU official

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 07, 2014, 09:49:56 pm »
Quote from: Tibe on November 07, 2014, 05:56:29 pm
And where did you read that. RT news? Atm there isnt in Ukraine.

Yeeeees, RT...... Almost! German news proudly announcing the maneuver.

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So there is quite much NATO activity in Ukraine for years already! (Rapid Trident)



Quote from: Tibe on November 07, 2014, 05:56:29 pm
And they got barely any equipment and like measly few 100 to few 1000 american troops.

You are not talking about nowadays, are you? Spontaneously reminds me of:
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Quote from: Tibe on November 07, 2014, 05:56:29 pm
And why is it that every time something happens its automatically US and oil? Thats conspiracytheoristlevel factless assumption. I make this too: I wake up some morning and discover my car stolen, its pretty obviously CIA is behind this and they gave the car to a small buisness that uses it more regularly than I did, thereby they buy more oil and increase the demand and in return the dollar currency stays stable. See how easy it is?

Totally conspiracy theoretical. They handle their debts with oil and gas (and other things). Don't you ask yourself why Saudi Arabia, a non-democratic country, gets supported by the US (Arabia sells its oil for the worthless dollar to the US while the US protect them at pumping the oil) and other countries get bombed down "to bring democracy"? Or why Saddam Hussein gets supported by the West first, and when he starts to sell his oil in Euro instead of Dollar, the US make WMDs up to invade Iraq?

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 07, 2014, 06:36:48 pm »
Quote from: [ptx] on November 07, 2014, 05:27:33 pm
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I "discussed the videos", now what?

Let me say something concerning the Berlin video first: I don't think this is a neonazi march. That red flag one guy is carrying is probably one of the "Antifa" ("antifascist action", although "anti-German fascism" fits more). On this day usually left-wing extremists, autonomists, anarchists, communists and anti-Germans (Like "Bomber Harris do it again") do massive marches which aren't that peaceful... Such fascist left-wing extremism is far too underestimated here in Germany, just by the way.
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Now to all the videos: I don't think that children get manipulated like in Hitler's time in these countries. And such heavy neonazi-like anti-Russian agitation like it is spread in Ukrainian media is not existent in the videos' countries, I'm sure. Of course all that neonazi stuff is bad and a threat to society but in Ukraine it's something different. I can't exactly explain it but I have felt more concerned than I expected when I saw this... My gut instinct made me feel even more concerned.

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 07, 2014, 05:34:20 pm »
Quote from: Tibe on November 07, 2014, 05:08:27 pm
You can blame Nato and the West all you like, but the only one using its military in Ukr is Russia atm.

Umm... actually there already were some NATO maneuvers in western Ukraine... And there are more and bigger ones to come (not only in Ukraine but in eastern Europe)


Quote from: Tibe on November 07, 2014, 05:08:27 pm
I highly doubt this is some secret Western plan. Theres nothing to gain from Ukraine or from destabilizing/pissing off Russia. Russia was weak and poor before the crysis and its still weak and poor.

Russia has much oil and gas and one particular country wants its currency to stay stable. And this country also hates if oil-rich and gas-rich countries offer their stuff in other currencies... Ukraine or the Ukraine crisis is only a means to an end. One does not simply risk a third World War by massive agitation against Russia out of nowhere or making up incidents just to blame the nuclear power Russia...

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 07, 2014, 04:28:05 pm »
Wow... Surprise! Russia invaded Ukraine. OSCE didn't confirm and Russia is again denying the accusation. But Kiev said it, that's enough proof! :rolleyes:

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 07, 2014, 05:35:07 am »
Quote from: Thomek on November 07, 2014, 03:26:08 am
You clearly live in an alternate reality and are not able to think for yourself Anuran.

An "alternate reality" doesn't have to be a wrong one. We just got different opinions. But it's not nice if you say I cannot think for myself only because I have a different opinion :( :D

Quote from: Thomek on November 07, 2014, 03:26:08 am
Please explain if you are trolling, just retarded, or actually believe all the crap RF state controlled media throws at you.

Now it's again Russian propaganda... I don't even know exactly what's coming from Russia... As long as conclusions are logical enough I could agree with them. That's quite logical I think...

Quote from: Thomek on November 07, 2014, 03:26:08 am
Understanding the psychology, actually the mass brainwashing going on is more interesting.

Yeah indeed. I am also always amazed when I notice how manipulative mainstream media can be. How they can change peoples' minds. I have recently seen a video from September 11, 2001. This video contained short clips of people and experts talking in German mass media about the terrorist act and most of them added that it can't only be the terrorists who did this. Maybe there was an intelligence agency involved, no one was warned when these planes entered the closed airspace, assumptions that it was not only bin Laden, the fact that the US supported bin Laden's organization etc. But nowadays this stuff is marked down as conspiracy theories...


Quote from: Thomek on November 07, 2014, 03:26:08 am
What shocks me however is how much support Putin gains, and I wonder how he does it.

Be it support or maintaining neutrality and objectivity: By figuring out Western propaganda and agitation. It's not even Putin doing it. It's us, the people, by ourselves. Yesterday RT German started on YouTube and it will soon start in TV, I am curious what effects this will have. We will probably have another propaganda channel but it's the completely opposite view and a danger to the already existing channels. RT is also announced to come in other european languages. In London posters of RT got forbidden!
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Now to MH17: It is possible that it was the jet fighters. But it is also possible that it was a BUK missile system. The BUK system is more probable. However, some more proof would be nice, I mean Russia showed something, US didn't yet although they could. And what about the black box? Case MH17 completely disappeared from the news...

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 07, 2014, 02:46:39 am »
Quote from: Tibe on November 06, 2014, 10:12:56 pm
And how is the MH17 thing still a subject? The separatists unknowingly pretty much admitted shooting down the plane via social networks.

Okay, then it's clearly 100% evil Putin's fault! Now we can invade Russia with Ukrainian Sukhoi Su-25 (if they still got some ammo left in their guns) and Ukrainian BUK anti-air missiles on the border of the planeless rebels! Especially Germans are happy about a war against Russia. :rolleyes:

What I actually meant is that the MH17 case was something like the Cuba Crisis 1962. War could have easily been declared due to that false flag operation (not applying to the Cuba Crisis!) and due to the overwhelming proof coming from US side. But the case was pulled back after a short time of anti-Russian agitation. Why? Because most people aren't that stupid anymore. Don't forget about the snipers on Maidan on February 20, Odessa on May 2, the Ukrainian airstrike on Lugansk on June 2, the voting in eastern Ukraine on August 11 - when Putin vainly tried to convince the pro-Russian rebels to reschedule the voting, and don't forget the made up Russian military vehicles on August 14/15. Oh and all these 30 Russian invasions in Ukraine... All these things were shortly used for anti-Russian agitation but what happened after this short time and what's up with it now? Just silence. Instead there are more and more sanctions imposed.


Quote from: Tibe on November 06, 2014, 10:12:56 pm
And before you act like idiot Tovi and say "EU is same", its definately not.

"...and, you know, fuck the EU."

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 06, 2014, 09:58:44 pm »

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It's just a horrible progress!

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 06, 2014, 09:49:10 pm »
Quote from: Tibe on November 06, 2014, 08:38:45 pm
Even a 7 year old would quess something like this. If NATO really wants to send troops somewhere it can easly do so. Theres loads of countries nobody has barely heard of and doesnt give a shit about it could invade and loads of conflicts happening all the time everywhere it could interfere. There is no battle with Russia, nor is there ever going to be one. Worst case scenario, more playing chicken with nukes. But not actual confrontation between the 2.

"NATO doesnt want its troops to stay in barrackses so they want to start a war with Russia." What a load of shit. It physically hurts me that grown people say something so fully retarded with dead seriusness. NATO/Russia war is not some random thing anyone on the planet Earth could just sweep under the rug and forget. It would be the endwar. Lots of good would that troopexperience do when we are all dead. NATO would have to be officially governed by suicidal retards(if they were the agressors in that case), for something like that to happen.


Well, I still think that the NATO leaders and other highly responsible persons want a war against Russia. And as long as the West continues escalating the situation, I will not deviate from that opinion. Fortunately, people aren't that stupid so the top-tier people can't go ahead with their war propaganda properly (MH17).

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General Off Topic / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« on: November 06, 2014, 05:53:46 pm »
Quote from: Thomek on November 06, 2014, 04:14:44 pm
Russia is the reason and the cause for this war, and all the blood is on its hands. (Putins..)

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