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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: bruttus on October 16, 2015, 06:45:03 pm

Title: Wanted, Death
Post by: bruttus on October 16, 2015, 06:45:03 pm
Wanted.

Jona of HoC
Reason: Telling lies about an entire clan on the forums, and after the Truth came out, still refusing to give his apolegy's.

Reward.
250 000 CRPG Gold. for attacking and sending Jona to EU.
500 000 CRPG Gold, If you attack his main fief in strat and conquer it, But Jona has to be in his own fief.
50 000 CRPG Gold for the person who can kill Jona atleast 15 times during a Strat Battle/Siege ( Only in the first Strat. Battle/Siege when we see Jona)-----> Need Proof or screenshots on this threat.

Conditions

- Every 1 can join the hunt, except HoC members.
- If some one attacks him, Acre members has to be accepted for that battle/siege, Even if Acre is in war with that faction.

- These conditions ENDS when Jona take his responsibility and apologize on this forum.

This wantedlist comes from me, Bruttus, NOT from ACRE or HCE, so all this CRPG Gold comes from me allone, not from the factionbank.
Why?: I do not like to be called as a liar, cheater or abusser, especially not from a NA Admin, who do everything what he can to screw ACRE, and don't take his responsibility about the lie that he was telling around on the forum.

Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bronto on October 16, 2015, 06:50:42 pm
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Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 16, 2015, 06:55:12 pm
Reward.
250 000 CRPG Gold. for attacking and sending Jona to EU.
50 000 CRPG Gold for the one that can keep Jona in EU.
500 000 CRPG Gold, If you attack his main fief in strat and conquer it, But Jona has to be in his own fief.
50 000 CRPG Gold for the person who can kill Jona atleast 15 times during a Strat Battle/Siege ( Only in the first Strat. Battle/Siege when we see Jona)-----> Need Proof or screenshots on this threat.

Not very good rewards, especially the 50k to basically kick him and you out of the game(even though supposedly EU strat is fixed we will find out later today)
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: bruttus on October 16, 2015, 07:02:16 pm
Not very good rewards, especially the 50k to basically kick him and you out of the game(even though supposedly EU strat is fixed we will find out later today)
Well, count this 250k + 500k together if you can manage him in his own fief :) + i'm still thinking about extra payment with EU goods to the persons faction in strat itself. so atleast its 750K CRPG Gold + atleast 1 million stratsilver.
But it comes from mine  bank

Hmm, and maybe ure right, I will delete that :)

And Heskey, ure right, but almost every1 apologized for it, but Jona is a NA admin, he should judge better, or use his brains, instead of accusing an entire clan of cheating/abussing.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bjord on October 16, 2015, 07:12:30 pm
An entire clan of shitbags*
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Voncrow on October 16, 2015, 08:59:11 pm
500k to successfully siege a measly 4.5k troops in a city. No biggie obviously.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: sLaughterino on October 17, 2015, 03:13:31 am
I feel like Bruttus is the kid who thinks that the people laughing at him are actually laughing with him.

Bruttus, put some neosporin and a band-aid on your butt and move on.

Jona had very solid reasoning for the stance he took, and it was a very commonly shared stance.

Offering chump change to take one of the best defended fiefs on the strat map is not only sad but indicative of how out of touch you are.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on October 17, 2015, 06:01:35 pm
Jona was a complete dickhead to me personally about this, when it was completely obvious that we did not gearbomb. If he had listened to our members we had evidence that it was a glitch for quite some time.

He is letting his hatred for us in strategus cloud his judgement as an admin... Pretty much exactly what you do not want from an admin.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bjord on October 17, 2015, 06:02:51 pm
Jona was a complete dickhead to me personally about this, when it was completely obvious that we did not gearbomb. If he had listened to our members we had evidence that it was a glitch for quite some time.

He is letting his hatred for us in strategus cloud his judgement as an admin... Pretty much exactly what you do not want from an admin.

Nah, he's pretty sound.

I think he's doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on October 17, 2015, 06:04:44 pm
My opinion about Jona is formed from watching him abuse his powers multiple times against our clan purely because of personal hatred. If he wasn't an abusive admin I would respect him as I do the admins that do a good job.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Taser on October 17, 2015, 06:21:37 pm
Jona was a complete dickhead to me personally about this, when it was completely obvious that we did not gearbomb. If he had listened to our members we had evidence that it was a glitch for quite some time.

He is letting his hatred for us in strategus cloud his judgement as an admin... Pretty much exactly what you do not want from an admin.

What evidence? For quite some time? This was not what you said in the other threads. Bauar accidentally deleted the report and you simply just said our members don't gearbomb. You never offered up any evidence in those threads. If you had actual evidence there was a glitch going on with peasant gear why didn't you come forward with it? Could have avoided a lot of drama if you had.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on October 17, 2015, 06:23:35 pm
Our players had experienced the exact same thing Jona and HoC did. Fiefs that should have had peasant gear having nothing. A glitch, and we didn't go on a ban rampage...

Unfortunately Jona wasn't intent on actually finding out what was going on. Just on banning his strategus enemies.

It is also a move that NEVER would be commanded in Acre, anyone who says it would is spewing propaganda.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Kidduis on October 17, 2015, 06:35:32 pm

An entire clan of shitbags*

Trying to get muted again eh Bjord ? :D
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Taser on October 17, 2015, 06:36:19 pm
Our players had experienced the exact same thing Jona and HoC did. Fiefs that should have had peasant gear having nothing. A glitch, and we didn't go on a ban rampage...

Unfortunately Jona wasn't intent on actually finding out what was going on. Just on banning his strategus enemies.

It is also a move that NEVER would be commanded in Acre, anyone who says it would is spewing propaganda.

Should have mentioned it. Far as I was aware it was occurring only to fiefs being attacked by acre which is why people were up in arms hence Louie's army being hacked. Still not the best way to combat perceived cheating but the anger was understandable since no one knew about chadz messing with strat along with acre being the one attacking fiefs with no gear.

Jona suspected cheating on the people that had attacked fiefs with no gear. It was a likely suspicion since no one knew about chadz messing with strategus or whoever is doing it. Jona probably should have talked to the other admins to get a more fair judgement call on it and what should be done but it seemed clear something was up and chadz left everyone in the dark hence it seemed likely to be sabotage and cheating than chadz messing with strat. It was only afterwards anyone even heard rumors he was working on it.

The whole situation is a mess and had chadz and co just said something.. this might have gone a bit differently.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on October 17, 2015, 06:40:30 pm
I was talking directly to Jona where he made it clear he didn't care to actually hear what was going on and would judge the case with no evidence by himself...

One of the worst parts is Jonas behavior really. No admin should be a cunt to people after wrongfully banning them with no evidence when they have 0 ban record!

It goes to show his character that he is incapable of admitting his mistakes.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 17, 2015, 09:03:44 pm
I don't mean to be a dick James, but you're an admin despite being deeply out of touch with reality.

Does that mean I can be admin now?

All this stuff with jona stinks of this:
http://forum.melee.org/na-%28official%29/unban-request-kesh_ats/
http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(na)-smoothrich/msg726343/#msg726343
http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(na)-smoothrich/msg725879/#msg725879

That was some good drama.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Thryn on October 17, 2015, 09:16:16 pm
Does that mean I can be admin now?

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Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Jona on October 17, 2015, 10:45:59 pm
I was talking directly to Jona where he made it clear he didn't care to actually hear what was going on and would judge the case with no evidence by himself...

One of the worst parts is Jonas behavior really. No admin should be a cunt to people after wrongfully banning them with no evidence when they have 0 ban record!

It goes to show his character that he is incapable of admitting his mistakes.

Talked directly with me? Cool story.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: ArysOakheart on October 17, 2015, 10:52:01 pm
Why?: I do not like to be called as a liar, cheater or abusser

You're a lying, cheating, abusing, no good can't even spell basic words piece of shit. Blow it out your ass.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bjord on October 28, 2015, 03:10:58 pm
You're a lying, cheating, abusing, no good can't even spell basic words piece of shit. Blow it out your ass.

you bettr apolegys rite now for that
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Sharpe on October 28, 2015, 05:21:40 pm
The fuck is this.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Kirbyy on October 28, 2015, 07:18:05 pm
http://forum.melee.org/global/why-am-i-banned-68308/

Take away Jona's admin, he banned me for having FuckHoC_Kirby as my name, I was clearly making my own clan under the actual name of

Fabulous, Utterly Cool Kings Hating On Cock

FuckHoC_ is an actual clan tag you stupid cunt

I suppose however, that I should at least try to be a little more appropriate with my clan name.  Considering cock is one of the words I should try to make it a little more kiddy friendly for all you bundle of sticks fucks out there, I'll try this: JonaIsAmy old friend Got_(Yourname)

Just Owning Nikrs And Idiots Says A Fuckton About Gaycre Gaggers Obviously Today

JonaIsAmy old friend Got_Kirbyy
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on October 28, 2015, 11:32:04 pm
All accusations of cheating against Acre were unfounded. We never have and never would condone that type of behaviour in Acre or HCE.

Let us not forget that this thread was about a bounty on Jona for being a dickhead! Stay on topic!

Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: HappyPhantom on October 29, 2015, 12:16:30 am
Let us not forget that this thread was about a bounty on Jona for being a dickhead! Stay on topic!

Lol.

Bananas.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Kirbyy on October 29, 2015, 02:01:25 am
Happy go spam ban threads about how they're cancer before you make corrupt admin decisions just like jona and smoothrich like always.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bjord on October 29, 2015, 02:13:50 am
All accusations of cheating against Acre were unfounded. We never have and never would condone that type of behaviour in Acre or HCE.

Let us not forget that this thread was about a bounty on Jona for being a dickhead! Stay on topic!

lol ur an my old friendet
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Kirbyy on October 29, 2015, 04:20:24 am
lol ur an my old friendet

Shut up you cringey self proclaimed asshole spook hating douche
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Thryn on October 29, 2015, 05:13:38 pm
lol ur an my old friendet

get out of this thread you cuntslapping euronerd



signed, burger flap
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bjord on October 29, 2015, 05:31:53 pm

Shut up you cringey self proclaimed asshole spook hating douche

u wot m8, idek who u r

and spook is a bundle of sticks

get out of this thread you cuntslapping euronerd



signed, burger flap

i think i shall indeed stay here. u fucking americunt.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Thryn on October 29, 2015, 05:43:14 pm
americunt.

funny and original +1 nice meme
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Sharpe on October 29, 2015, 06:33:42 pm
Fruit Salad yummy yummy.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Kirbyy on October 29, 2015, 07:55:16 pm
u wot m8, idek who u r

and spook is a bundle of sticks

i think i shall indeed stay here. u fucking americunt.

the only reason i know who you are is because you spend more time on the forums, when you should instead be spending that time shoveling the refugees off your driveway/sidewalk or whatever you eu's have
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Thryn on October 29, 2015, 11:35:55 pm
the only reason i know who you are is because you spend more time on the forums, when you should instead be spending that time shoveling the refugees off your driveway/sidewalk or whatever you eu's have

filthy unpaved trails into their swampholes, filthy peasants




america master race

so much money
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: bruttus on November 01, 2015, 08:43:42 am
This is mine point.
Jona had all the right to think that ACRE was cheating.
I would say the same if HoC was doing the same crap, but I do that only in TS, I won't make a special forum of it.
But with the evidence that came out that we, Acre has nothing to do with it, A couple people who where shouting to Acre that were cheaters, etc... they stood up and excused themselfs. That takes guts, and I respect that.
Doesn't mean that were suddenly buddy's, but thay are man enough to admit that they were wrong.
Jona for instance, make a special forum to tell every1 that we, Acre, where cheating. So he attacked the entire clan, including me, knowing that if I suspected that some1 is cheating, that I leave that faction in a instant.
But making an apollegy and telling that he was wrong in his accusations, then you don't hear from him.

He acted like a dickhead, and to be honest, and that is what I told James a couple times, that Jona hates me more then the rest of Acre together.

Now if no1 wants to have the crpg gold from me personally, and I keep Always mine promisses, ask to the others that I have payed from mine own gold, I will do it by myself.

And BTW, now this community is deffending HOC again, think how manny ennemy's that they really made during the years.
In mine time allone
-Astrallis
-MB
-Hospitallers
-Malta
And prolly others that I don't know.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: bruttus on November 01, 2015, 02:06:31 pm
We're *still* talking about this?

Strat's frozen (ish), so let it go.

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Let me ask you this
What would you do when a certain Admin post a forum about that you are cheating or abusing without anny evidence and making sure that the entire community is against you becouse of that?
How would you feel that some clanmembers are being banned of the server from the same admin, without anny reason, just becouse they wear the clantag of the clan that you in it and that he hates in reall live?

Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on November 01, 2015, 04:07:34 pm

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Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Yeldur on November 02, 2015, 04:06:09 pm

Shut up you cringey self proclaimed asshole spook hating douche
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bronto on November 06, 2015, 08:41:22 pm
Let me ask you this
What would you do when a certain Admin post a forum about that you are cheating or abusing without anny evidence and making sure that the entire community is against you becouse of that?
How would you feel that some clanmembers are being banned of the server from the same admin, without anny reason, just becouse they wear the clantag of the clan that you in it and that he hates in reall live?

I would definitely make some type of bounty thread encouraging people to send him to EU and attack him there so he couldn't play strat. Thus eliminating my one enemy in the most shitlordly way possible and not even attacking him myself.

As for the clan member thing, I would instruct them to go outside while this thing blows over and they get unbanned in like an hour or two, once I spoke with another admin and explained my innocence, providing the appropriate screen shots that I've had them take to further bolster my claims. Eliminating any doubt that my clan was involved in cheating whatsoever.

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Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: imisshotmail on November 07, 2015, 02:56:33 pm
Normal admins have never been allowed to ban for strategus site issues, and putting gear in a fief isn't even against the rules anyway unless it's item bombing (which is putting in so many different types that you make it so the enemy can't select their equipment when the battle starts)

I have it from a reliable source that the devs shut down NA strat so as not to deal with the hassles of administrating strategus, which were brought on by Jona abusing his power for a petty ban.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: imisshotmail on November 08, 2015, 12:19:31 am
Normal admins never used to have to cos there were previously active admins that could apply strat-specific sanctions or roll-backs.

Exactly, and the devs would prefer people don't try step into their place and cause problems for them. An absence of authority does not pass the scepter to you. -Psalms 118:19
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: bruttus on November 08, 2015, 04:14:20 pm
Admins are people, and the situation looked dodgy as fuuuuuuuck. I mean, although it turned out peasant gear didn't exist anyway, you physically couldn't have made yourself look more guilty if you tried. It's easy to say after the event 'Oh yeah, Acre also had battles where we got no peasant gear', but you neglected to mention this until after we found out for ourselves. And you accidentally deleted the log that proved your innocence.

So I can only surmise that either someone in your clan, no guesses who, wanted some drama and deliberately played up to the crowd. Or, that you have no one to blame but yourselves.

I apologised for misjudging at the time, but to expect every single person to do the same is unreasonable. This is the reputation that you have built for yourselves, zero honour etc, and you seemed more than happy to provide the drama at the time but then acted all offended afterwards.

The admin didn't turn the community against you, the community was already against you, that's why everyone believed that you'd cheated in the first place. Strat's done (at least for now), there's not need to go out of your way to suicide-bomb your clan's reputation further until battles begin again.

Its not that I expect that every1 apolegy's for it, the most people did that already, even when they have a grudge against ACRE.
But I expect from Jona that he openly apolegy's for it becouse he started it, becouse of his personal hate of ACRE and his members.
He started a treath about it, without anny proof, except that it was just ACRE that was attacking those village's
He is still searching way's to blaime us for something, just like the battletimes that suddenly where screwed

And Bronto, i'm not a coward, but I can't tell mine position where I am :)

But yeah, I know Jona long enough, big talk on the forums, but in reality just a kid

Small edit: I do hope that the community first check the accusations of cheating if it is true, instead of believing a person that has personal vendatta.
Its still a game, and if something like this happens, We have steam, TS or whatever, to talk and check things out.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: BlackxBird on November 08, 2015, 08:14:21 pm
well as many people said now it was some sort of bug. That there won't be peasant gear in the fiefs anymore. But it was not like that in all the battles. Some were really gearbugged. so bruttus, stfu and go find some friends
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Jona on November 09, 2015, 08:57:13 pm
Its not that I expect that every1 apolegy's for it, the most people did that already, even when they have a grudge against ACRE.
But I expect from Jona that he openly apolegy's for it becouse he started it, becouse of his personal hate of ACRE and his members.
He started a treath about it, without anny proof, except that it was just ACRE that was attacking those village's
He is still searching way's to blaime us for something, just like the battletimes that suddenly where screwed

And Bronto, i'm not a coward, but I can't tell mine position where I am :)

But yeah, I know Jona long enough, big talk on the forums, but in reality just a kid

Small edit: I do hope that the community first check the accusations of cheating if it is true, instead of believing a person that has personal vendatta.
Its still a game, and if something like this happens, We have steam, TS or whatever, to talk and check things out.


You really need an apology... still, after all this time? Man, you sure are needy. This right here is the exact reason you won't ever get one from me. You think that it's A-okay to go around spreading lies and slander about HoC and its members, yet if someone talk smack about "The Illustrious Acre" then they are the lowest of scum and deserve to be permabanned. Screw your brain in for just a second to realize that A) This is strat we're talking about, wars are won on the forums before they're won in-game and B) If you ever for a split second become emotionally attached to strat, then immediately quit crpg and start rethinking your life.

You're still convinced that "I hate Acre" and yet I beg you to find a single reason/piece of evidence as to why I would. Go ahead, find proof. You guys didn't show the proof that you didn't gear bug when you could have, even though it existed, so go ahead and just try and find something that proves that I for some reason have it in for you and/or your whole clan, when that doesn't exist. Sure, I banned a few members of Acre during my time as admin. Sorry, Acre players have broken the rules in the past, and I'm not about to overlook their actions in crpg due to the fact that they might participate in strat. In fact, I've barely banned anyone from Acre looking at the admin logs... I banned Joan once for TKing me for only 4hrs, which I then postponed until after a strat battle making the ban not go into effect until around 1am EST (oh no, he can't stay up til 5am playing crpg, QQ). Any other admin would have given him at least a 1-2 day ban for an intentional TK seeing how he had roughly 10 bans on record prior to that, mostly all for TKing. The only other time I banned anyone from Acre was when I banned those three guys for their strat attacks for half an hour each, at like 1 or 2pm EST... not exactly primetime. I didn't bother going into the servers to check if they were online to give them the boot... if any of them were actually effected by that ban, I'd be quite surprised. And since you still don't seem to get it, the bans were placed on those 3 not to actually punish them in any way, but to bring it to the higher-ups attention since they don't like to interfere until shit hits the fan. Unfortunately they still decided to not look into the bug or anything, but whatever, the bans got their attention and so the bans were lifted promptly.

If you think that "Jona's great strat exploit campaign" actually tarnished Acre's reputation in the slightest, you are sorely mistaken. The community has been around for enough strats to know to take a clan's supposed strat actions with a grain of salt. Most of the time they are fabricated by the enemy to gain a larger roster for themselves, nothing new to see in this recent shit-slinging fest. HoC has had it's name dragged though the mud by its opponents on several occasions, but no one particularly cares about that anymore and we happily see old strat enemies banner stacking with us from time to time or stopping by TS just to hang out. I've played with the same core group of HoC members for 3 years now, despite us not exactly gaining the public's favor at the tail end of strat 4, which goes to show one thing: A shitty reputation doesn't ruin a clan, but being a shitty clan will ruin clan. Don't go trying to blame us for your problems.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on November 09, 2015, 10:32:18 pm
Lol Jona none of our clan deserves permabans. The three guys you banned when you were on your abuse tyrade had no previous ban records...

You are losing it mate. Don't forget its a game!
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Jona on November 09, 2015, 10:36:53 pm
Lol Jona none of our clan deserves permabans. The three guys you banned when you were on your abuse tyrade had no previous ban records...

You are losing it mate. Don't forget its a game!

A) Learn to read
B) Try for once to make a response when your brain is occupying THIS reality
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bronto on November 09, 2015, 10:55:37 pm
WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You only banned them for a half an hour in the afternoon!!!!!!!!!!!??????

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Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on November 09, 2015, 11:19:08 pm
Jona I have nothing against you and forgive your petty personal grudge against me and my clan. Bruttus has every right to call you out for being a dickhead though as well.

Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: BlackxBird on November 09, 2015, 11:29:01 pm
I heard that many in the usa see psychologists. Now I know why. James, u better go find a other one. Bruttus, u better go hang yaself.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: njames89 on November 09, 2015, 11:34:05 pm
Classy as always Blackbird.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: BlackxBird on November 09, 2015, 11:36:50 pm
It's great to see that you feel more intelligent than anyone else. So there is atleast one person that has trust in you James, even if it's yourself...
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: imisshotmail on November 10, 2015, 12:35:22 am
Acre, HoC and the assorted euro's are at the Idiocracy stage of cRPG history.
Title: Re: Wanted, Death
Post by: Bryggan on November 10, 2015, 09:19:14 pm
Yes, we all know Jona hates the HCE.  That is why when he merced for us, he only gave 90% of his usual effort instead of 100%.