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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Behemoth_ on October 13, 2015, 07:06:03 pm

Title: This is not fair
Post by: Behemoth_ on October 13, 2015, 07:06:03 pm
Am I supposed to just swallow the fact that my army was lost last night due to cheating? They had no weapons in the village and the battle was almost won until they poll banned my players to get weapons. People are making all these false accusations that were gear bombing and cheating yet there is blatant cheating happening right in front of your eyes and no one is doing anything about it. I ask that some of you get off your high horse and step down from the acre hate train for just 1 minute and see this through my eyes.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 13, 2015, 07:09:11 pm
Strat isn't fair. Take the wins, you take the losses.

It happens.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bryggan on October 13, 2015, 08:27:04 pm
New tactic- get a larger roster then poll ban all the enemy.  Well worth the two day ban, since it takes months to build an army.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 09:27:06 pm
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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 13, 2015, 10:16:15 pm
Are we supposed to just swallow the fact that several fiefs were lost during the past couple weeks due to cheating? We had no weapons in the castles and villages and the battles are never won until people fight fire with fire. People are making all these false excuses that Acre isn't gear bombing and cheating yet there is blatant cheating happening right in front of your eyes and no one is doing anything about it. I ask that some of you get off your high horse and step out of the acre circle jerk for just 1 minute and see this through our eyes.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 13, 2015, 10:19:57 pm
Am I supposed to just swallow the fact that my army was lost last night due to cheating? They had no weapons in the village and the battle was almost won until they poll banned my players to get weapons. People are making all these false accusations that were gear bombing and cheating yet there is blatant cheating happening right in front of your eyes and no one is doing anything about it. I ask that some of you get off your high horse and step down from the acre hate train for just 1 minute and see this through my eyes.

Schoi was banned, do you want us to ban everyone who voted yes? Who was it and what do you want us to do about your army being lost? The milk is spilled and now you have to deal with that.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 10:21:33 pm
Schoi was banned, do you want us to ban everyone who voted yes? Who was it and what do you want us to do about your army being lost?

Schoi was is obviously a scapegoat for acre trying to distract everyone from the fact that they were are cheating.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 10:22:12 pm
btw, if they were able to rekt u with only one weapon in the beginning, imagine what would have happened when they had peasant gear. They would have rekt u dude. So, they were cheating and u were cheating (no matter if u pretend u did not, it absolutely looks like u did, so stop kidding), get over it.

and damn voncrow, in eu, a admin did that with me. One of us did a vote ban, and 3 others got banned just for voting yes (it was a fief transfer and there was an enemy accepted, unfortunately we had no weapons and ladders)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 13, 2015, 11:03:40 pm
Poll kicking/banning people to win is most definitely against the rules. That being said the devs have never gone back and given people back their armies in my experience. Just another example of HoC using any shit tactic (including rogue banning enemies in strategus, with no valid reason) to stem their losses.

I say again to HoC and Jona you do not need to resort to this low level of scumbaggery. It ruins the game.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: ARN_ on October 13, 2015, 11:08:05 pm
Am I supposed to just swallow the fact that my army was lost last night due to cheating? They had no weapons in the village and the battle was almost won until they poll banned my players to get weapons. People are making all these false accusations that were gear bombing and cheating yet there is blatant cheating happening right in front of your eyes and no one is doing anything about it. I ask that some of you get off your high horse and step down from the acre hate train for just 1 minute and see this through my eyes.
QQ we lost all our armies when the servers when down, shit happens stop crying and keep on fighting!

Also don't bug the fiefs you attack, that is cheating!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 11:08:44 pm
said the one who is representing the faction which attacked like 4 gear bugged fiefs now?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 13, 2015, 11:09:46 pm
You guys are hilarious. No amount of bullshit from you will ever make the lies you spew turn to truth.

I admire your resolve to spew this propaganda but alas it is wasted.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 11:10:08 pm
Poll kicking/banning people to win is most definitely against the rules. That being said the devs have never gone back and given people back their armies in my experience. Just another example of HoC using any shit tactic (including rogue banning enemies in strategus, with no valid reason) to stem their losses.

I say again to HoC and Jona you do not need to resort to this low level of scumbaggery. It ruins the game.

Last  I checked it was the Black Knights who had the battle last night not hoc. Also skoi was the person who did the ban poll. Someone who I've always seen merc for you and the rest of Acre
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 11:10:55 pm
I also love how you think -ing a post will somehow make it any less true
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 13, 2015, 11:11:25 pm
It wasn't HoC grievously abusing the rules? That is a surprise... Though not surprised schoi was involved  :lol:

I minus the posts that are completely untrue. Anyone claiming we were gearbugging is just looking for any bullshit to spew to make themselves feel better.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 11:13:08 pm
It wasn't HoC grievously abusing the rules? That is a surprise... Though not surprised schoi was involved  :lol:

I minus the posts that are completely untrue. Anyone claiming we were gearbugging is just looking for any bullshit to spew to make themselves feel better.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 13, 2015, 11:14:01 pm
Bauer making a joke in NA 1 does not mean anything. Hate on us if you want for no reason as many have always done. But know that this bullshit propaganda is just as useless and boring as the last bunch.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 11:15:31 pm
just sitting here and watching u guys QQ is fucking amazing. And I actually wonder how long it takes until u blame dutchy/jimmy for all of that :D
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 13, 2015, 11:16:08 pm
just sitting here and watching u guys QQ is fucking amazing. And I actually wonder how long it takes until u blame dutchy/jimmy for all of that :D

Didn't you hear? We're besties now  :)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: ARN_ on October 13, 2015, 11:17:54 pm
It wasn't HoC grievously abusing the rules? That is a surprise... Though not surprised schoi was involved  :lol:

I minus the posts that are completely untrue. Anyone claiming we were gearbugging is just looking for any bullshit to spew to make themselves feel better.
Only fiefs you have attacked has been gear bugged so far, not saying anything but there might be a pattern somewhere here..
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 11:18:07 pm
Didn't you hear? We're besties now  :)

That's not what I heard.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 11:18:13 pm
Didn't you hear? We're besties now  :)

heard of that  :lol: fucking amazing what is going on at the moment. Maybe I should wait until you acre guys built up ur empire again and then rekt u again.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 13, 2015, 11:21:02 pm
Go ahead James, just try and pinpoint one shady or underhanded tactic that HoC has employed any time this strat. You won't, you can't.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 13, 2015, 11:28:06 pm
Go ahead James, just try and pinpoint one shady or underhanded tactic that HoC has employed any time this strat. You won't, you can't.

You banning our players with no reason because you want them removed from strategus.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 13, 2015, 11:31:57 pm
Schoi is a hero and a national treasure. Please unban him immediately as he dindu nuffin wrong. He was a good boy and just getting his life back on track, going to church every day.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 13, 2015, 11:34:17 pm
You banning our players with no reason because you want them removed from strategus.


Your players were suspected of gear bugging in strat. Probable cause is enough to act upon. It can't be a permanent means to an end but it is enough to stop whatever is happening in the here and now.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 13, 2015, 11:34:41 pm
TBH
I'm pretty fair and reliable judge. Lets do this the old fashioned way. Answer my questions publicly (particularly the last one) and lets get this all cleared up. I believe the people in question are Largos and Bauer, but I am only privy to what I can read.

1) Was the owner of the fief in the fief? (Y/N?)

2) Dependent on 1, did the owner verify peasant gear before battle started(or gear at all?)

3) When was the last time the fief was managed?

4) At Previous instance of management, what gear was in there?

5) Acre player: Please post the post game battle log that you have received from both the raid, and the subsequent "gearless" battle.

I might have more later, but this should start "handling" the affair, publicly, and hopefully fairly.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 13, 2015, 11:35:48 pm
Lol.

A) Banning someone for a couple days does not take away their ability to use the strat map, nor will they be suddenly "removed."
B) Banning people for item bugging is standard procedure for admins. You'd know that if you actually knew the rules of strat.
C) The actions of myself as an admin have nothing to do with the rest of my clan and faction.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 13, 2015, 11:37:16 pm
Lol.

A) Banning someone for a couple days does not take away their ability to use the strat map, nor will they be suddenly "removed."
B) Banning people for item bugging is standard procedure for admins. You'd know that if you actually knew the rules of strat.
C) The actions of myself as an admin have nothing to do with the rest of my clan and faction.

TBH
I'm pretty fair and reliable judge. Lets do this the old fashioned way. Answer my questions publicly (particularly the last one) and lets get this all cleared up. I believe the people in question are Largos and Bauer, but I am only privy to what I can read.

1) Was the owner of the fief in the fief? (Y/N?)

2) Dependent on 1, did the owner verify peasant gear before battle started(or gear at all?)

3) When was the last time the fief was managed?

4) At Previous instance of management, what gear was in there?

5) Acre player: Please post the post game battle log that you have received from both the raid, and the subsequent "gearless" battle.

I might have more later, but this should start "handling" the affair, publicly, and hopefully fairly.

Please see above. Less shittalk more answers.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 11:38:03 pm
less posting more banning jona!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 13, 2015, 11:46:36 pm
well, they can still globally ban someone.

OH I GOT A GREAT IDEA.

For every gearbugged fief Acre attacks, I tell one of my inactive friends in EU to attack an Acre guy (in eu):D

Someone may keep me up to date!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Oreo on October 13, 2015, 11:52:34 pm
becs are op maaaan
same with 1/2 of the new weapons
and 2h axes

Jona pls advise on items

:v)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: poonerplox2 on October 13, 2015, 11:53:09 pm
well, they can still globally ban someone.

OH I GOT A GREAT IDEA.

For every gearbugged fief Acre attacks, I tell one of my inactive friends in EU to attack an Acre guy (in eu):D

Someone may keep me up to date!

Don't you mean one of your alternate accounts?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Taser on October 14, 2015, 12:06:24 am
I was there for the fight last night at BK's village. We had absolutely no gear, weapons or construction material. The only construction materials we had were stolen from your stockpile when we swarmed your spawn and died mercilessly.

This is not the first gear bugged battle HCE has been the attacker of so people suspect HCE of gear bugging villages to prevent peasant gear from spawning. ITs highly suspicious when there's been more than 1 battle in which this has occurred with HCE being the attackers. To ignore that is being intellectually dishonest.

However the ban poll and kick polls done at the BK village defense.. was not defensible either. But tension was high and people thought HCE gear bugged the village and wanted to get back at them. Dont blame them for thinking that but ban polling a player to get their weapon is against the rules and against the idea of fair play.

I think HCE needs to clear this up to try and dismiss the rumors of gear bugging they have against them and to proceed from here as best they can. Sorry to hear Louie lost his army and gear. A high loss and if there's anyone in HCE I don't think would intentionally gear bug, it'd be Louie/Behemoth. But we'll see if anything can be done to figure out why this is occurring.

If anyone can answer Anders' questions, that might be the one of the best ways to figure this out and to understand if this was intentional gear bugging or mismanagement of fiefs (leaving goods in which seems like it could prevent fiefs from spawning peasant gear). Its not looking good for HCE with multiple defenses lacking gear. If it was just BK or just HoC at that castle siege, that's one thing but its both as well as Kalmar. To try and dismiss it as anti acre propaganda is not understanding the gravity of how that looks to the rest of the community. So let's try and clear it up and see if mismanagement, raiding fiefs (if the raiding mechanic doesn't take goods), or if intentional sabotage was the reason. Or perhaps mismanagement at some and sabotage at others.

Hopefully some admins can chime in on what they can do (if they haven't already).
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 14, 2015, 12:09:20 am
Well we didn't gearbug anyone. Case closed. Continue spinning tales if you want but that is the fact of it.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2015, 12:12:11 am
Well we didn't gearbug anyone. Case closed. Continue spinning tales if you want but that is the fact of it.

James, just answer some of the questions I posted.

It'll be better than your huff puff Kesh like BS that's going on. This is exactly the way Kesh would act whenever he was(or accused of) cheating.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 14, 2015, 12:14:15 am
I am not involved in any of the attacks Anders and cannot post logs of it for that reason.

Simply stating that gearbugging is not something any of our members would do.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: RD_Professor on October 14, 2015, 12:50:34 am
I was there for the fight last night at BK's village. We had absolutely no gear, weapons or construction material. The only construction materials we had were stolen from your stockpile when we swarmed your spawn and died mercilessly.

This is not the first gear bugged battle HCE has been the attacker of so people suspect HCE of gear bugging villages to prevent peasant gear from spawning. ITs highly suspicious when there's been more than 1 battle in which this has occurred with HCE being the attackers. To ignore that is being intellectually dishonest.

However the ban poll and kick polls done at the BK village defense.. was not defensible either. But tension was high and people thought HCE gear bugged the village and wanted to get back at them. Dont blame them for thinking that but ban polling a player to get their weapon is against the rules and against the idea of fair play.

I think HCE needs to clear this up to try and dismiss the rumors of gear bugging they have against them and to proceed from here as best they can. Sorry to hear Louie lost his army and gear. A high loss and if there's anyone in HCE I don't think would intentionally gear bug, it'd be Louie/Behemoth. But we'll see if anything can be done to figure out why this is occurring.

If anyone can answer Anders' questions, that might be the one of the best ways to figure this out and to understand if this was intentional gear bugging or mismanagement of fiefs (leaving goods in which seems like it could prevent fiefs from spawning peasant gear). Its not looking good for HCE with multiple defenses lacking gear. If it was just BK or just HoC at that castle siege, that's one thing but its both as well as Kalmar. To try and dismiss it as anti acre propaganda is not understanding the gravity of how that looks to the rest of the community. So let's try and clear it up and see if mismanagement, raiding fiefs (if the raiding mechanic doesn't take goods), or if intentional sabotage was the reason. Or perhaps mismanagement at some and sabotage at others.

Hopefully some admins can chime in on what they can do (if they haven't already).

I'll take some of the blame for the loss of the army. Since I was a bit occupied warning the server, and trying to figure out what was going on with the gear, it did not occur to me to disable polls until after the fact. Those who voted yes probably did out of anger or resentment, but that does still not justify it. Going forward, if I am present at other strat battles like this one polls WILL be disabled to prevent abuse. 

As for the gearbugging claims until something similar happens to me I won't throw out any accusations. But I do think it needs to be investigated by those higher up, who aren't very involved in the situation. Hopefully, Dupre does have strat powers so he can look into that sort of stuff, and get some answers. In the meantime, let's go back to hating HA and ranged more than each other.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2015, 01:07:27 am

So fucking lazy
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 14, 2015, 01:43:04 am
How did I miss this shit show?!?!? I have no idea what's going on but I support Taser because his posts are always............................ELECTRIFYING!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Schoi on October 14, 2015, 01:45:54 am
Am I supposed to just swallow the fact that my army was lost last night due to cheating?

make sure you deepthroat it
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 14, 2015, 01:54:37 am
make sure you deepthroat it
Make sure you keep being an idiotic and or autistic child. 
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 14, 2015, 02:11:08 am
Make sure you keep being an idiotic and or autistic child.

#IStandWithSchoi
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 14, 2015, 02:15:20 am
#IStandWithSchoi
Makes sense.  You fall under the same category he does.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 14, 2015, 02:20:56 am
Makes sense.  You fall under the same category he does.

And so do you cheaters in acre.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 14, 2015, 02:23:59 am
I think Acre could have easily avoided this situation by learning to properly manage their fiefs. All that is to blame is their own incompetence in this matter. Learn to be organized and you'll never have to deal with cheaters again. Since you are all clearly unlearned in the intricate art of fief management I would be happy to teach you sometime.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 14, 2015, 02:25:28 am
I honestly don't know what you guys are on about at this point. chadz is looking into the logs to see what happened.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 14, 2015, 03:19:18 am
I think Acre could have easily avoided this situation by learning to properly manage their fiefs. All that is to blame is their own incompetence in this matter. Learn to be organized and you'll never have to deal with cheaters again. Since you are all clearly unlearned in the intricate art of fief management I would be happy to teach you sometime.
Start with teaching your own faction first :mrgreen:.  Largos seems to need a few pointers.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: sLaughterino on October 14, 2015, 04:48:57 am
Make sure you keep being an idiotic and or autistic child.

James and Louie,

It's doubtful that either of you are extensively involved in the gearbugging that's been taking place, and at most are passively accepting of it as a 'necessary evil' to ensure your victory.  However, it's absolutely possible and arguably likely that the trolls who are now representing the outward appearance of your faction are more than willing culprits.

Bauer, Froi, Simon, players like these make me unapologetic and unsurprised at your current predicament.

Bauer claimed complete incompetence in both gear bugging and raiding, yet was 'joking' about it on NA1?  He said he didn't even know what it was after the fact, but he was already referring to it on NA1 to Sellko.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 14, 2015, 04:55:06 am
James and Louie,

It's doubtful that either of you are extensively involved in the gearbugging that's been taking place, and at most are passively accepting of it as a 'necessary evil' to ensure your victory.  However, it's absolutely possible and arguably likely that the trolls who are now representing the outward appearance of your faction are more than willing culprits.

Bauer, Froi, Simon, players like these make me unapologetic and unsurprised at your current predicament.

Bauer claimed complete incompetence in both gear bugging and raiding, yet was 'joking' about it on NA1?  He said he didn't even know what it was after the fact, but he was already referring to it on NA1 to Sellko.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 14, 2015, 05:16:26 am
James and Louie,

It's doubtful that either of you are extensively involved in the gearbugging that's been taking place, and at most are passively accepting of it as a 'necessary evil' to ensure your victory.  However, it's absolutely possible and arguably likely that the trolls who are now representing the outward appearance of your faction are more than willing culprits.

Bauer, Froi, Simon, players like these make me unapologetic and unsurprised at your current predicament.

Bauer claimed complete incompetence in both gear bugging and raiding, yet was 'joking' about it on NA1?  He said he didn't even know what it was after the fact, but he was already referring to it on NA1 to Sellko.
I don't even have enough experience in strat to know how to gear bug something lol.  It will be funny when chadz looks at the logs and finds we haven't done anything wrong.  What will you guys say then?  You will have to concoct some other conspiracy I'm sure.

You are sad, sad children.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 14, 2015, 05:16:37 am
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Thats a picture of New Durquba fucking retard
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bauer on October 14, 2015, 05:16:59 am
James and Louie,

It's doubtful that either of you are extensively involved in the gearbugging that's been taking place, and at most are passively accepting of it as a 'necessary evil' to ensure your victory.  However, it's absolutely possible and arguably likely that the trolls who are now representing the outward appearance of your faction are more than willing culprits.

Bauer, Froi, Simon, players like these make me unapologetic and unsurprised at your current predicament.

Bauer claimed complete incompetence in both gear bugging and raiding, yet was 'joking' about it on NA1?  He said he didn't even know what it was after the fact, but he was already referring to it on NA1 to Sellko.

A) I apologized, even though I found out later that I didn't do what you were accusing me of.
B) Of course I'm referring to it. You people keep going on about it. I'm mocking your nonsense.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 14, 2015, 05:17:26 am
Thats a picture of New Durquba fucking retard

i dont have the time or the patience to take a real picture of unuzdaq
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 14, 2015, 05:17:58 am
Thats a picture of New Durquba fucking retard
gud meme m8
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 14, 2015, 05:27:15 am
i dont have the time or the patience to take a real picture of unuzdaq
They are on the website lel. You had enough time to go through and find an old picture of durquba taken months ago but not enough time to copy paste a picture from the cRPG website?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 14, 2015, 05:28:32 am
They are on the website lel. You had enough time to go through and find an old picture of durquba taken months ago but not enough time to copy paste a picture from the cRPG website?

yea
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 14, 2015, 05:30:44 am
yea
fair enough
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Schoi on October 14, 2015, 05:37:45 am
Froi's only good points are about me being an autistic child tbh. Everything else is just shit.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Uulmshar on October 14, 2015, 05:45:06 am
Your players were suspected of gear bugging in strat. Probable cause is enough to act upon.
So if I suspect you of murder, I have the right to execute you?
Because that's the logic you're using.
Suspected cheating is not countered by more cheating. Post a ban thread, message an admin, use the proper channels.
This isn't even eye for an eye. This is "I saw a guy in a eyepatch, so I shot that other guy in the face."
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bauer on October 14, 2015, 06:04:45 am
So if I suspect you of murder, I have the right to execute you?
Because that's the logic you're using.
Suspected cheating is not countered by more cheating. Post a ban thread, message an admin, use the proper channels.
This isn't even eye for an eye. This is "I saw a guy in a eyepatch, so I shot that other guy in the face."

^
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 14, 2015, 07:24:38 am
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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Uulmshar on October 14, 2015, 08:11:14 am
#IStandWithSchoi
It's hard to jerk off onto each other when you're sitting.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dutchydave on October 14, 2015, 10:18:24 am
Well I just like to add that I have seen no evidence of gear bugging, I have seen a castle and a village now have no peasent gear for their defence. I am going to have to suggest that the rumours I hear is that chadz has been messing about with the Strat map lately, I personally witnessed the map fast forward 12 hours last Sunday. I would suggest that chadz has removed default peasent gear. If the apparent gear bugging is about this then I would strongly suggest that it hasn't been gear bugged.  :shock:
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Kadeth on October 14, 2015, 11:55:14 am
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2015, 02:30:22 pm
This is crpg, this is a game, the closest analogy is suspecting someone of TKing in which case an admin absolutely has the right to 'execute' you for a duration set based on your prior history.

#IStandWithSchoi

Dude said what I was trying to say but actually made sense of what I said
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 14, 2015, 05:42:44 pm
Well I just like to add that I have seen no evidence of gear bugging, I have seen a castle and a village now have no peasent gear for their defence. I am going to have to suggest that the rumours I hear is that chadz has been messing about with the Strat map lately, I personally witnessed the map fast forward 12 hours last Sunday. I would suggest that chadz has removed default peasent gear. If the apparent gear bugging is about this then I would strongly suggest that it hasn't been gear bugged.  :shock:

The accusations against Acre are baseless from what I've seen.  What mechanic would allow them to attack, and make it so the defenders have no gear?  If you "gear bug" someone, you dump so many different types of equipment into the fief that they can't use all the lower gear in the list (siege weapons, projectiles, etc).

If Acre was dumping gear into the fiefs before attacking, wouldn't the defenders have gear?

Is the more likely scenario that something is bugged with defenders getting peasant gear?

So in retaliation against Acre for attacking fiefs that have no gear, you vote ban them from battles so that you can win? 

Am I missing something?  If so, be a dear and fill me in, because the last 5 pages were all bullshit with no substance.  I apologize for not being active on forums the last couple years, and being a shining example of quality posts.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 14, 2015, 05:56:18 pm
To fill you in huesby somehow hoc didn't have gear at at battle and they blame it on us because they are mad about strategus.

Jona also banned 3 of our guys with no evidence. Thankfully Dupre reversed that momentary lapse in judgement.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 14, 2015, 06:23:50 pm
The accusations against Acre are baseless from what I've seen.  What mechanic would allow them to attack, and make it so the defenders have no gear?  If you "gear bug" someone, you dump so many different types of equipment into the fief that they can't use all the lower gear in the list (siege weapons, projectiles, etc).

If Acre was dumping gear into the fiefs before attacking, wouldn't the defenders have gear?

Is the more likely scenario that something is bugged with defenders getting peasant gear?

So in retaliation against Acre for attacking fiefs that have no gear, you vote ban them from battles so that you can win? 

Am I missing something?  If so, be a dear and fill me in, because the last 5 pages were all bullshit with no substance.  I apologize for not being active on forums the last couple years, and being a shining example of quality posts.
Yay, someone with a brain.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Taser on October 14, 2015, 06:27:45 pm
Well I just like to add that I have seen no evidence of gear bugging, I have seen a castle and a village now have no peasent gear for their defence. I am going to have to suggest that the rumours I hear is that chadz has been messing about with the Strat map lately, I personally witnessed the map fast forward 12 hours last Sunday. I would suggest that chadz has removed default peasent gear. If the apparent gear bugging is about this then I would strongly suggest that it hasn't been gear bugged.  :shock:

I hope that's it. Why remove default peasant gear though? Weird.

Although that would mean chadz is actually touching strat. What does that mean?

Will wizards rule the sky once more? Will strat burn?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2015, 06:35:45 pm
Still don't know why BAUER hasn't uploaded a Screenshot of his after battle log yet. It'd at least allay some concerns.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dutchydave on October 14, 2015, 06:40:24 pm
Still don't know why BAUER hasn't uploaded a Screenshot of his after battle log yet. It'd at least allay some concerns.

But Bauer did a lame ass raid and got gear for 1500 and ruined what could of been a nice battle.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2015, 06:44:38 pm

But Bauer did a lame ass raid and got gear for 1500 and ruined what could of been a nice battle.

Yea. Point is, if he posts the raid log and then the second assault log then between the two, there should be enough evidence to show how stuff was looted and what was in there between the two battles.

Also,
Never put gear in population only fief if you A) can't hold it or B) It's crappy throw away gear that you don't care about.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CALAMARI on October 14, 2015, 06:47:38 pm
Still don't know why BAUER hasn't uploaded a Screenshot of his after battle log yet. It'd at least allay some concerns.

He's still watching the photoshop tutorials; It'll be up soon.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 14, 2015, 06:51:45 pm
Yea. Point is, if he posts the raid log and then the second assault log then between the two, there should be enough evidence to show how stuff was looted and what was in there between the two battles.

Also,
Never put gear in population only fief if you A) can't hold it or B) It's crappy throw away gear that you don't care about.

maybe I don't have the timeline down, but I believe Bauer said he sold the broken gear to the fief before he raided it, so he wouldn't have the shitty gear in his battle (and possibly gear bug himself).
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2015, 07:12:58 pm
maybe I don't have the timeline down, but I believe Bauer said he sold the broken gear to the fief before he raided it, so he wouldn't have the shitty gear in his battle (and possibly gear bug himself).

That's not what I'm talking about. After every battle you get a message in your "CRPG Inbox" detailing the battle results, and all gear won/lost and looted.

This is what I'm requesting he post. James(and other upper acre) knows what this is, so they can't claim they don't know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 14, 2015, 07:30:23 pm
Oh I understand that.  What was the sequence of events?  From what I overheard in passing in TS, Bauer either won or lost a battle, and was in the vicinity of a fief with no army (only population) and decided to raid it since he was in the area. 

If he sold gear after the first battle, and before raiding, how would the log be beneficial?  I can't see the harm in him posting the log either way.  But I still don't see any justification for calling Acre or Bauer a cheater since the defenders didn't get the default peasant gear, seems like baseless accusations at this point.  Is there even a hunch as to what the mechanic is that would cause this, that Acre has some control over?  Maybe the defenders are doing something wrong, or the default peasant gear mechanic is not working properly (that could be easily tested).
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: W0LF on October 14, 2015, 08:22:31 pm
Once i get home i will see if bauer is in ts, and if he is i will try to get a screenshot of what he got from the battle. You wanted the result screenshot of the first battle for the castle right anders? Not the raid right?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 14, 2015, 08:24:30 pm
Once i get home i will see if bauer is in ts, and if he is i will try to get a screenshot of what he got from the battle. You wanted the result screenshot of the first battle for the castle right anders? Not the raid right?

Honestly who cares what Anders wants. Lets just keep yelling at each other.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: bruttus on October 14, 2015, 09:03:39 pm
well, they can still globally ban someone.

OH I GOT A GREAT IDEA.

For every gearbugged fief Acre attacks, I tell one of my inactive friends in EU to attack an Acre guy (in eu):D

Someone may keep me up to date!

So does that means that you are gonna activate 1 of your many accounts in strat?
I'm in EU
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 14, 2015, 10:24:22 pm
So does that means that you are gonna activate 1 of your many accounts in strat?
I'm in EU

no, but maybe half of the eu map? U know there were way more strat players in eu than in na? They do nothing now. So y not do a favour for an old friend and attack some NA scum.

And I won't even give a shit about u guys calling me a cheater. Go do a report or something idc.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: bruttus on October 14, 2015, 10:34:02 pm
no, but maybe half of the eu map? U know there were way more strat players in eu than in na? They do nothing now. So y not do a favour for an old friend and attack some NA scum.

And I won't even give a shit about u guys calling me a cheater. Go do a report or something idc.

I don't call you a cheater, you are just a jerk.

Do whatever you wanna do, you had a big mouth back then, and insulting others, and look what you have now.
Its just WO1 and WO2, the Germans invaded mine country and both times they where kicked out of mine country, both times they had allot of allies, and at the end no1 wanted to stay allied with the Germans.
This historylesson remind me of you.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 14, 2015, 10:45:39 pm
I hope chadz will come down from Austria just for a moment to tell us what the fuck is going on.

Dutchy may be right. There is no way we gearbombed these fights so its very likely a glitch, or some devious ruse...Looking at you mcdeath.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dutchydave on October 14, 2015, 11:09:11 pm
I don't call you a cheater, you are just a jerk.

Do whatever you wanna do, you had a big mouth back then, and insulting others, and look what you have now.
Its just WO1 and WO2, the Germans invaded mine country and both times they where kicked out of mine country, both times they had allot of allies, and at the end no1 wanted to stay allied with the Germans.
This historylesson remind me of you.

Lol Germany never invaded USA! Derr  :rolleyes:

Anders, for the record they attacked it first it had no gear, then they lost it, hoc armed it turned troops into pop then they raided it and fucked off with the gear. I'd be willing to make a large wager that default peasent gear has been turned off on purpose or glitches out.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 14, 2015, 11:20:32 pm
Lol Germany never invaded USA! Derr  :rolleyes:

Anders, for the record they attacked it first it had no gear, then they lost it, hoc armed it turned troops into pop then they raided it and fucked off with the gear. I'd be willing to make a large wager that default peasent gear has been turned off on purpose or glitches out.

he's from euro-land silly goose

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dutchydave on October 14, 2015, 11:21:41 pm
The big question is: How the fuck can it be gear bugged if there is no gear at all?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 14, 2015, 11:29:20 pm
The big question is: How the fuck can it be gear bugged if there is no gear at all?

finally someone else who doesn't have an extra chromosome, I'm very glad someone else is seeing logic
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 14, 2015, 11:32:11 pm
Putting trade goods in a fief can prevent peasant gear from spawning.

Putting trade goods in a fief can prevent peasant gear from spawning.

except we didnt
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 14, 2015, 11:32:49 pm
I don't have the logs for these battles I did not participate. chadz is looking into it so I am sure we will have an answer soon enough.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2015, 11:33:08 pm
The big question is: How the fuck can it be gear bugged if there is no gear at all?

Technically, if you have no gear, and should(based on all previous instances of getting it) then it is by definition a "gear bug."

Now, it's not the same as the "gear bug" most people now use in strat to many: To many items in inverntory.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 14, 2015, 11:35:28 pm
I hope chadz will come down from Austria just for a moment to tell us what the fuck is going on.

Dutchy may be right. There is no way we gearbombed these fights so its very likely a glitch, or some devious ruse...Looking at you mcdeath.

Not sure if you are joking or you are actually that retarded.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 15, 2015, 12:00:56 am
James, just have them post the logs so everyone will shut up.
I don't have the logs for these battles I did not participate. chadz is looking into it so I am sure we will have an answer soon enough.

In case English isn't your first language, he's telling you to tell the members who attacked to post logs.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 15, 2015, 12:01:55 am
Needed a winkyface I guess. Here it is mcdeath  :wink:
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 12:08:33 am
GUYS QUIET!!!!

After some talking with dutchy:
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4934

For this battle: Louie and Archibot need to post battlelog. See picture below for the mentally challenged on what I mean.
(click to show/hide)
Now, as defender won this, we will probably not be able to tell because, if goods were in fief, then defenders don't "loot" what they had already.(Says dutchy, I disagree, but we shall see)

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4923
Bauer needs to post logs. Anything sketchy will show up as it was an attacker win.

First Log Posted(King Louie):
http://imgur.com/a/wc1ts

Second Update:
Update #2:
HCE battle will not have logs. Only admin via site can now verify it. If possible, can LARGOS post his logs of lost(if any) gear?(He was owner of Unuzdaq yes?)

Third Update:
Archibot's Log of the same instance.(Co-Verify with Louie)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 15, 2015, 12:16:39 am
GUYS QUIET!!!!

After some talking with dutchy:
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4934

For this battle: Louie and Archibot need to post battlelog. See picture below for the mentally challenged on what I mean.
(click to show/hide)
Now, as defender won this, we will probably not be able to tell because, if goods were in fief, then defenders don't "loot" what they had already.(Says dutchy, I disagree, but we shall see)

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4923
Bauer needs to post logs. Anything sketchy will show up as it was an attacker win.

I don't think that defense loots their own gear, so any goods wouldn't show up. I am however curious to see the logs for this battle: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=4932

Blackbird (one of the pseudonyms) and I showed up, saw that we mysteriously had maybe 10 helmets and 10 body armors (both -1 or -2) and no weapons at all, so we left. It looks like a no show, because we left before spawn happened, but it wasn't.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 12:24:15 am
I have recieved the first log(admittedly the only one we don't really need atm.)
Anyways, it's up in my previous post. (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/this-is-not-fair/msg1175743/#msg1175743)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 15, 2015, 12:27:07 am
I have recieved the first log(admittedly the only one we don't really need atm.)
Anyways, it's up in my previous post. (http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/this-is-not-fair/msg1175743/#msg1175743)

Lol yeah, we only need to victors' logs, obviously you lose everything when you attack a village. Would be awfully suspicious if that village happened to have some colored sands in it though.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 12:33:03 am
Update #2:
Quote
6:30 PM - Louie: Yeah Bauer told me he accidentally deleted his from his inbox

HCE battle will not have logs. Only admin via site can now verify it. If possible, can LARGOS post his logs of lost(if any) gear?(He was owner of Unuzdaq yes?)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: chesterotab on October 15, 2015, 12:42:10 am
"accidentally deleted his from his inbox"

yeah ok
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Drunken_sailor on October 15, 2015, 12:54:53 am
my end of the battle

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 12:59:52 am


As much as i like seeing someone play devil's advocate Anders...  Why oh why would anyone not just post the message from their inbox that definitively proves they're innocent, right? That's what you've been asking for the last few days right?

Oh... i guess he accidentally deleted the PM that proves he didnt do anything. But dont worry, James says noone did anything therefore we dont need the proof they accidentally deleted.

It's great that you're trying, but they're either blatantly avoiding posting it cos they're playing like assholes and the PM would prove it, or they didnt do anything but are tripping over their own stupidity trying to make it look like they did something dodgy. There's no helping people like that

Hey! Don't shoot me, I'm the messenger on that! I'm just trying to get all info out there, publicly for everyone to see and review.

(the full steam log from Behemoth/Louie)
(click to show/hide)

Next, Compare Louie's to Archibots.
Why does Archibots not show the items that he captured from Louie. Also...that "Autoerotic Fealtio at Duck...."

Also, why do you think I'm on Acre's side? I have no horses in this race, so I don't care. I just want this shit done so we can get back to killing each other in strat.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 15, 2015, 01:01:37 am
I had Largos check his, it mentions no gear being lost. Yet seeing how there are inconsistencies between Archiboit's and Louie's, that doesn't help us with much.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 01:05:15 am
I had Largos check his, it mentions no gear being lost. Yet seeing how there are inconsistencies between Archiboit's and Louie's, that doesn't help us with much.

At least have him post it. It'll help. We'll have everyone's* logs at that point.

So, we need Bauers logs, and we aren't going to get those.

Welp, I guess at this point, we need an admin to try and drag up the deleted message if possible. Can someone contact and admin and get that handled(Dupre I think?)?

Well, there goes the easy method of guilt checking.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 15, 2015, 01:14:10 am
Welcome to the Ninth Circle of Strategus Hell, where two baddie clans from previous rounds are subjected into an un-ending whiny conflict which takes place within Lake Cocytus as the Devil (CMP) watches, all the while devouring the head of Panos for eternity.

The annoying, spergy adaptation of Virgil is played by Banders.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 01:23:26 am
Welcome to the Ninth Circle of Strategus Hell, where two baddie clans from previous rounds are subjected into an un-ending whiny conflict which takes place within Lake Cocytus as the Devil (CMP) watches, all the while devouring the head of Panos for eternity.

The annoying, spergy adaptation of Virgil is played by Banders.

So, then who's Dante?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 15, 2015, 01:25:19 am
So, then who's Dante?

Everyone not involved in this bullshit that has to witness it.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Behemoth_ on October 15, 2015, 05:05:01 am
What more do I have to show you guys that we didn't do anything wrong :/
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 15, 2015, 12:00:06 pm
Oh fuck I almost fell out of my chair laughing at this! It reads like a 6th grade play! I can also appreciate that he conveniently deleted any evidence, anyhow I added more to the story:

"6:31 PM - Louie: I dont think bauer would either
 6:31 PM - Louie: And he wouldnt lie to me"

I've stared deep into his internet eyes
I've seen the true Bauer
I've seen his power
the power of Bauer

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 15, 2015, 03:52:36 pm
Everyone should have done the smart thing and stopped playing strategus a year ago when strat 5 was scheduled to end.  Strat 5 was the worst strat of all (lots of dupe bugs at the beginning and not nearly as much people playing as previous strat rounds).  It's been a ghost town for the past year+.  Maybe we should all do the smart thing and stop worrying about who owns what pixel crack and work together to make as much money as possible and put together XP battles.

Unless you guys really care about who owns what fief in a game where maybe 100 people are still playing (maybe).
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 15, 2015, 04:02:13 pm
Unless you guys really care about who owns what fief in a game where maybe 100 people are still playing (maybe).

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: bruttus on October 15, 2015, 05:21:32 pm
Lol Germany never invaded USA! Derr  :rolleyes:

Anders, for the record they attacked it first it had no gear, then they lost it, hoc armed it turned troops into pop then they raided it and fucked off with the gear. I'd be willing to make a large wager that default peasent gear has been turned off on purpose or glitches out.

Hmmm, I live in EU, a small country named Belgium
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2015, 11:39:36 pm
Confirmed.

Free peasent gear removed from fiefs. Screenshots coming up later from Heskeytime.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 15, 2015, 11:48:59 pm
Confirmed.

Free peasent gear removed from fiefs. Screenshots coming up later from Heskeytime.
Acre confirmed gearbugging swine then.  It's settled.

We expect an apology from Jona :).

Wonder what ridiculous conspiracy you guys will concoct next!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 15, 2015, 11:50:42 pm
There is a curse on the former eques lands. If I was u I'd gtfo there.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 15, 2015, 11:51:43 pm
So for the record we confirmed village peasant gear is no longer working. It was a glitch that made you not have your peasant gear, not us.

Taken in the battle at Nova Aab between LL and KBW

Screenshot 1:
Naked spawned Heskeytime after confirming gear is not working
(click to show/hide)

Screenshot 2:
All the witnesses to the battle
(click to show/hide)

Personally I think a couple of you have behaved like... dickheads.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 15, 2015, 11:54:04 pm
So for the record we confirmed village peasant gear is no longer working. It was a glitch that made you lose your peasant gear, not us.
What do you mean James?  We're obviously gear-bugging swine!  Just look at what these "respected" members of the community have to say against us a few pages back!

I guess this is a valuable life lesson for you guys not to shit out a random conspiracy and ban people without evidence (Jona).
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: bruttus on October 15, 2015, 11:54:12 pm
Acre confirmed gearbugging swine then.  It's settled.

We expect an apology from Jona :).

Wonder what ridiculous conspiracy you guys will concoct next!

Agree,
But not only Jona, also from Arn, and others that that accused Acre about the gearbugging.
They are brave enough to make a treath about it, I hope that they are brave enough to make a public apolegy.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 16, 2015, 12:01:32 am
Agree,
But not only Jona, also from Arn, and others that that accused Acre about the gearbugging.
They are brave enough to make a treath about it, I hope that they are brave enough to make a public apolegy.
Sorry 2 James/Bauer/Simon/Bruttus for not believing in you guys :(
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 16, 2015, 12:02:01 am
We expect an apology from Jona

Tough luck, kiddo. This here is the internet, welcome to it. There was a very high possibility that it was merely a glitch going into it, do you really think I didn't think that over beforehand? I still went ahead and banned people because:

A) I spoke to Dupre and other admins about it, none knew of this glitch so therefore shady tactics could likely have been used.
B) Banning people was never the end goal, bringing it to the higher-ups attention was. Nothing would have happened if the bans weren't applied (and they lasted a whole hour or two, QQ). Unfortunately instead of the devs fixing the glitch, they went and seemingly fixed (or attempted to fix) EU strat instead. Well it's better than nothing I suppose.  :?
C) You guys went ahead and abused the fuck out of that glitch without any consideration for the other players of strat - you'd rather "win" by gathering the most pixel crack than have any fun battles whatsoever.
D) "Someone" definitely dumped 10 -2 helmets and armors into Ehlerdah. Whether or not it was the guy who attacked it right before, only chadz knows.

I guess this is a valuable life lesson for you guys not to shit out a random conspiracy and ban people without evidence (Jona).

At least 50% of all bans are done based on little to no evidence, admins can't be around for every single TK that happens, so when they must punish someone for an incident they were not present for they must go based on what other people say happened during the incident. Once again, welcome to the internet (and the real world), where things don't exactly operate the way you want them to.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: BlackxBird on October 16, 2015, 12:04:27 am
I was there at Ehlerdah. Probably someone heard of the gearbugging Acres and was like yolo let's do it. Actually it's pretty dumb that everyone can put things inside a fief. It should be limited to the faction!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 16, 2015, 12:04:43 am
Jona, you banned your Strategus opponent because you were mad about a raid. What are the ban histories of the three people you banned with 0 evidence?

This isn't the first time you have banned someone for being in this clan and it is not something that should be a part of the game. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 16, 2015, 12:08:00 am
Jona, you banned your Strategus opponent because you were mad about a raid. What are the ban histories of the three people you banned with 0 evidence?

This isn't the first time you have banned someone for being in this clan and it is not something that should be a part of the game. You should be ashamed of yourself Jona.

Go ahead, keep spouting more nonsense about your "strat enemy." I thought admins only dealt with proof and facts? Go ahead then, prove it. I expect an apology from you.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 16, 2015, 12:08:42 am
(click to show/hide)

- because I'm pretty sure you've used that gif already in one of the 6 threads that this incident caused.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 16, 2015, 12:10:27 am
I am sorry you hate us so much Jona. Please let it go. We forgive you. None of us expect or need an apology from you.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 16, 2015, 12:12:42 am
Also I'm not apologizing because I never accused anyone of anything. I more or less was just saying shit to cause problems.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: bruttus on October 16, 2015, 12:13:51 am
Tough luck, kiddo. This here is the internet, welcome to it. There was a very high possibility that it was merely a glitch going into it, do you really think I didn't think that over beforehand? I still went ahead and banned people because:

A) I spoke to Dupre and other admins about it, none knew of this glitch so therefore shady tactics could likely have been used.
B) Banning people was never the end goal, bringing it to the higher-ups attention was. Nothing would have happened if the bans weren't applied (and they lasted a whole hour or two, QQ). Unfortunately instead of the devs fixing the glitch, they went and seemingly fixed (or attempted to fix) EU strat instead. Well it's better than nothing I suppose.  :?
C) You guys went ahead and abused the fuck out of that glitch without any consideration for the other players of strat - you'd rather "win" by gathering the most pixel crack than have any fun battles whatsoever.
D) "Someone" definitely dumped 10 -2 helmets and armors into Ehlerdah. Whether or not it was the guy who attacked it right before, only chadz knows.

At least 50% of all bans are done based on little to no evidence, admins can't be around for every single TK that happens, so when they must punish someone for an incident they were not present for they must go based on what other people say happened during the incident. Once again, welcome to the internet (and the real world), where things don't exactly operate the way you want them to.

Sorry, thats no apolegy.
Your man enough to falsy accuse Acre of cheating and make a seperate threat about it, but you don't admit your mistake.

And BTW, we didn't know what was happening when we attacked the villages on that moment, so how can we abuse the fuck out of it. And if you still know me, then you know that I don't like cheating, otherwise I left Acre, becouse I still don't like cheaters and braggers
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 16, 2015, 12:14:35 am
Also I'm not apologizing because I never accused anyone of anything. I more or less was just saying shit to cause problems.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 16, 2015, 12:23:41 am
It's ok Jona, I know you're not man enough to apologize.  I love how mad you are that you were proven wrong.  I just love it.

I don't think you realize it would cast you in a much better light if you suck it up and apologize, admit it was wrong to accuse Acre with no definite evidence other than "it looked fishy", instead you choose to act like my 6 year old nephew.

When I was admin for a long long time on Persistent World, I had to apologize to people all the time if I read the situation wrong and banned the party that wasn't at fault.  It's not a big deal.  Mistakes happen.  You just make a lot more mistakes happen than the average person.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 16, 2015, 12:27:27 am
It took me 24 hours longer than it needed to for me to go perform my test, should gone for a village the second someone suggested that chadz had been tampering with strat.

I'll bring more hats next time

it's ok, you have my thanks for clearing my name

Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 16, 2015, 12:30:23 am
It took me 24 hours longer than it needed to for me to go perform my test, should gone for a village the second someone suggested that chadz had been tampering with strat.

I'll bring more hats next time
My thanks as well Hesky!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: sLaughterino on October 16, 2015, 12:37:15 am
I am sorry for lobbying accusations that were false, but I am not sorry for making then in the first place.  With raids and gearless fiefs following so closely, it seemed as if Acre had simply dropped the pretext and was openly trying to scumbag their way to victory.

Any person in acre can understand why it looked like gear bugging from our perspective.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 16, 2015, 12:41:37 am
I could see how it could look like a gearbombing. That being said its obviously something Acre and all four individuals accused would never do. The bans only happened because Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 16, 2015, 12:42:04 am
I am sorry for lobbying accusations that were false, but I am not sorry for making then in the first place.  With raids and gearless fiefs following so closely, it seemed as if Acre had simply dropped the pretext and was openly trying to scumbag their way to victory.

Any person in acre can understand why it looked like gear bugging from our perspective.
The only reason it was us was because nobody else attacks anything, we were trying to do our part and provide more battles, and that's what we get for it.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Taser on October 16, 2015, 12:42:30 am
Confirmed.

Free peasent gear removed from fiefs. Screenshots coming up later from Heskeytime.

Glad to hear it. chadz cares not to tell us of his strategus warping schemes.

It took me 24 hours longer than it needed to for me to go perform my test, should gone for a village the second someone suggested that chadz had been tampering with strat.

I'll bring more hats next time

Glad to see you do this. It clears HCE's name in the idea that they were intentionally sabotaging villages and castles. Hopefully things can be less drama filled from here on out but.. I know that's probably unlikely. It is strategus and crpg after all. Diplomacy is where the drama comes out.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 16, 2015, 12:44:42 am
None of us expect or need an apology from you.

Agree,
But not only Jona, also from Arn, and others that that accused Acre about the gearbugging.
They are brave enough to make a treath about it, I hope that they are brave enough to make a public apolegy.

We expect an apology from Jona :).

Speak for yourself...

Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 16, 2015, 12:45:13 am
I could see how it could look like a gearbombing. That being said its obviously something Acre and all four individuals accused would never do. The bans only happened because Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.
I could see how it could look like a gearbombing. That being said its obviously something Acre and all four individuals accused would never do. The bans only happened because Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.


...The bans only happened because Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.


...Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.


...Jona was emotionally compromised...


Jona emotionally compromised
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 16, 2015, 12:47:29 am
Well at the very least we've proven that no fiefs get free gear even if left totally empty with no goods put in...

Why, i even included the PM i got from the system...

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NOVA AAB WAS AN INSIDE JOB! OPEN YOUR EYES
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: fallinup on October 16, 2015, 12:49:43 am
NOVA AAB WAS AN INSIDE JOB! OPEN YOUR EYES
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 16, 2015, 12:49:57 am
Speak for yourself...
It's ok, prove my point Jona.  It is now clear that you are emotionally compromised.  Seek professional help.  Feel free to come to Illinois, I live near a mental health facility for adolescents.  You can stay at my house for the duration of your treatment.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: fallinup on October 16, 2015, 12:52:42 am
I'm enjoying myself too much,

***DISCLAIMER***

My previous post contained a screenshot that may or may not have been altered using microsoft paint to pretend that i put goods in the fief before attacking to stop peasant gear spawning. Peasant gear really has genuinely been removed from fief defense. Heskey will in no way be held liable for anyone stupid enough to believe his previous post.


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NOVA AAB WAS AN INSIDE JOB! OPEN YOUR EYES
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 16, 2015, 12:57:45 am
I could see how it could look like a gearbombing. That being said its obviously something Acre and all four individuals accused would never do. The bans only happened because Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.


...The bans only happened because Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.


...Jona was emotionally compromised due to strategus events.


...Jona was emotionally compromised...


Jona emotionally compromised

You realize that is implying I even have emotions, right? That's a very big IF.

And let's not be so quick to forget about:

Quote from: njames89
Wow Eques. Gear bombing the fief. That is unbelievably low. Even for you.

This clan put over 100 shitty broken item types into the fief, using a broken mechanic to stop us from being able to use construction equipment and ranged gear.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Please don't support this type of play or it ruins the game for people. Shame on you eques.

Point A) Baseless accusation, doesn't apologize for being wrong.

Point B) Yes, getting gear bombed or bugged ruins the game. Wouldn't it be great if the faction that benefited from it would actually care about the state of strategus and idk... try to make battles happen instead of just getting overly greedy with their free land and gear grabs?

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 16, 2015, 01:11:07 am
Do you think we haven't been in battles for the past 2 years? Because we have Jona. We also owe you nothing and are not the sole providers of fun in this community. Piss off dickhead.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 16, 2015, 01:17:51 am
Do you think we haven't been in battles for the past 2 years? Because we have Jona. We also owe you nothing and are not the sole providers of fun in this community. Piss off dickhead.

Thanks for reminding me!

The only reason it was us was because nobody else attacks anything, we were trying to do our part and provide more battles, and that's what we get for it.

us was because nobody else attacks anything, we were trying to do our part and provide more battles[/size]

because nobody else attacks anything, we were trying to do our part

nobody else attacks anything

Lel.


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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 16, 2015, 01:54:39 am
Well glad we proved you guys were lying! Please don't ban our guys for no reason in the future! Also no poll bans for no reason too...
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 16, 2015, 01:59:47 am
Do you think we haven't been in battles for the past 2 1.5 years? Because we have been on defense besides fief transfers Jona. We also owe you nothing and are not the sole providers of fun in this community. Piss off I'm a dickhead.

I got the meat sweats so my forum skills are lacking at the moment.
Also why is everyone only thanking Heskey? I helped him out with that shit
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 16, 2015, 02:52:07 am
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1v1 mw2 360 no scopes on rust fgt
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 16, 2015, 03:00:24 am
Care to take me up on the adolescent mental health care treatment facility Jona?  It might be a bit difficult, because I know they mainly specialize in School Anxiety/School Refusal programs, but I'm sure they can find you a place.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Schoi on October 16, 2015, 03:13:11 am
Care to take me up on the adolescent mental health care treatment facility Jona?  It might be a bit difficult, because I know they mainly specialize in School Anxiety/School Refusal programs, but I'm sure they can find you a place.

Well then, you should find yourself a place. All you do is call me an autistic child and try and reduce your stress through writing on the forums.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dupre on October 16, 2015, 03:19:33 am
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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 16, 2015, 03:31:48 am
The only reason it was us was because nobody else attacks anything, we were trying to do our part and provide more battles, and that's what we get for it.

Trying to provide battles by raiding gear from a no troop fief and attacking gearless villages? Also out of Bauer, Behemoth, Simon, Longsword and Selka, the only one I'd call trustworthy is Selka. I don't even know who Simon is and the other three aren't exactly well known as outstanding citizens of crpg.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 16, 2015, 03:40:37 am
Trying to provide battles by raiding gear from a no troop fief and attacking gearless villages? Also out of Bauer, Behemoth, Simon, Longsword and Selka, the only one I'd call trustworthy is Selka. I don't even know who Simon is and the other three aren't exactly well known as outstanding citizens of crpg.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 16, 2015, 03:52:25 am
Why don't you just log off the internet you idiot? You just coming on here to do trolls on me? Its not even the same game dipshit.
Its a dip you meme
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 16, 2015, 04:10:54 am
Well then, you should find yourself a place. All you do is call me an autistic child and try and reduce your stress through writing on the forums.
Come stay at my house and you and Jona can enroll together you autistic child.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 16, 2015, 04:27:08 am
Come stay at my house and you and Jona can enroll together you autistic child.

Is it usually active patients who recommend treatment facilities to people?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: kasMVC on October 16, 2015, 04:37:12 am
This is for all you stupid fucking trolls and haters online saying inhumane and hurtful things about Acre.

Well guess what? They rule harder than you bundle of stickss. You don't know fucking anything about this clan, Idiots. Quite frankly, I just think you're jealous ass haters. Because you couldn't even get into the clan. You wouldn't have enough skill if your lives depended on it.

This banner is for what cool people wear, And you can't figure it out. You sit there online on your fucking diplomacy board and you're stating bullshit about them, but guess what? It's just a game, And you're not even good. So next time, You think before you do trolling. I'd Implore you to do a little bit of thinking, If that's even possible for you, to think before you do fucking hating on Acre. They're just a clan... And you're just a stupid bundle of sticks idiot. You think MB and HoC is sooo cool, Well guess what? They're my old friends.

That's all i got to say to all you stupid ass haters and bullshit bully trolls. You don't know shit, You don't know cRPG, You don't know anything about this world if you keep saying bullshit jokes. I know you're just trying to be stupid and ass funny but it's not fucking funny.

Get the fuck offline if you're gonna keep saying this bullshit keep spouting this out of your stupid ass keyboards(that probably aren't even mechanical LOL). Listen, Log off, Idiots. You don't know shit, You stupid troll. You don't know shit and I DARE you to say one more fucking joke and I'll ft7 you're scrub ass.

Anyway, that's it haters. See you later Fucking Idiots.


Acre promised me a reward in the form of monies but declined to comment when I had upheld my part of the bargain. I declare them scallwongs and sculdingers if you please.

Signed,

Cikel aka dirty
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 16, 2015, 04:39:03 am

Acre promised me a reward in the form of monies but declined to comment when I had upheld my part of the bargain. I declare them scallwongs and sculdingers if you please.

Signed,

Cikel aka dirty


They promised me money and only paid me because they needed me for a battle that they didn't have any mercs .
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: fallinup on October 16, 2015, 04:55:00 am

*quotes broken quote*
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dutchydave on October 16, 2015, 05:07:41 am
Lol like why didn't anyone take me serious when I told you all peasent gear was removed?  8-) It was a fun read anyway.

Facts:

- Acre didn't cheat.

- Acre did a lame ass raid and bragged about it.

- Schoi got a 2 day ban for what I consider the funniest ninja roster of all time.

Now that's settled lets get back to some fun wars. 8-)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on October 16, 2015, 05:38:07 am
Its a dip you meme

it's a hybrid post-avant-garde-ironic tongue-in-cheek facetious feigned ignorance post, Mcdeath

fuck, open your eyes bud
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Kadeth on October 16, 2015, 05:40:44 am
Care to take me up on the adolescent mental health care treatment facility Jona?  It might be a bit difficult, because I know they mainly specialize in School Anxiety/School Refusal programs, but I'm sure they can find you a place.

cringeworthy
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 16, 2015, 06:08:20 am
it's a hybrid post-avant-garde-ironic tongue-in-cheek facetious feigned ignorance post, Mcdeath

fuck, open your eyes bud

wat do
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Oreo on October 16, 2015, 01:23:23 pm
Trying to provide battles by raiding gear from a no troop fief and attacking gearless villages? Also out of Bauer, Behemoth, Simon, Longsword and Selka, the only one I'd call trustworthy is Selka. I don't even know who Simon is and the other three aren't exactly well known as outstanding citizens of crpg.

When have I ever talked to you? You fucking dumpster nerd.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jayjrod on October 16, 2015, 01:26:35 pm
Why were ban polls allowed in Na_3 to begin with?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Albus on October 16, 2015, 01:45:21 pm
Why were ban polls allowed in Na_3 to begin with?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJLSzsEjpWM
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on October 16, 2015, 01:50:24 pm
When have I ever talked to you? You fucking dumpster nerd.

I got my man's back here. I'm not gonna call anyone a dumpster nerd yet (more recon needed), but I can't abide by someone questioning oreo's character.

He's a bretty gud guy.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 16, 2015, 02:51:08 pm
I'll be honest, all I knew about longsword was that he was in MB. I assume he was a troll because of this isn't really fair since MB has plenty of none troll members. So sorry about that, rest of my statement stands.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 16, 2015, 03:40:23 pm
Everyone in this thread just:

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: bruttus on October 16, 2015, 04:07:39 pm
Really Jona, You condemn an entire clan that they cheat, lie and abbuse.
Many people who hate Acre and believed that Acre is doing something like that, the most of them had the courage to openly apolegyse for it when the truth came out. Admitting theyre mistake, that takes guts. And I respect that.

But you, Jona, are this time complety wrong.
You did not accuse this or that person, you accused the entire clan, that means, every single member of Acre, including me.
You can name me whatever you like, except Cheater, Liar and Abbusser
Aslong if you don't appolegise to Acre openly on the forums, and admitting that you where wrong, well you gonna see whats gonna to happen.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 16, 2015, 04:51:31 pm
I got my man's back here. I'm not gonna call anyone a dumpster nerd yet (more recon needed), but I can't abide by someone questioning oreo's character.

He's a bretty gud guy.

Did you say recoome?

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 16, 2015, 06:50:17 pm
In fairness to those of us that were skeptical. Which was more likely?
1. chadz working on strategus
2. A lone player or players acting like assholes cos they think can get away with it

When EU started working again this morning, my faith was already shaken, and it was proven in the recent fight. Fiefs no longer get free shit, so stock up!

My initial assumption was that something was wrong with the strat feature to automatically give peasant gear to defenders with no gear, considering there was no evidence to the contrary. But I am a shining beacon in this community for my intelligence, wisdom and common sense (see my custom title as evidence to this statement).  So I may be the anomaly. 
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 16, 2015, 06:52:28 pm
So I may be the anomaly.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 16, 2015, 06:58:20 pm
From my limited experience if something works one way for a long time and suddenly doesn't in regard to an individual or small group of people using it, it's generally human error.

Unless of course you can replicate it yourself, and I moved pretty quick to make sure we could try and replicate it.

Correct, however there would be evidence to back this up (in the form of gear being present in the village, for the defenders to use).  The only thing I saw was a few people essentially saying that "ACRE cheated and made it so we didn't get peasant gear in our defenses!", with absolutely nothing pointing to that conclusion.   That's why my assumption was there was something else going on in the backend.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Uulmshar on October 16, 2015, 09:46:06 pm
The only thing I saw was a few people essentially saying that "ACRE cheated and made it so we didn't get peasant gear in our defenses!", with absolutely nothing pointing to that conclusion.
This was also my experience, as I was mercing for them when this happened.
I just thought someone was an idiot with the fief gear.
And then they cheated and rekt us because it was four versus twenty-five.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 16, 2015, 10:27:49 pm
We should deadmin Jona just like the previous iteration of said things happening.

Remember when smooth Banned Kesh for "Multiaccounting"? Smooth lost his admin there.

Same instance as what happened then, but Jona did for (3) people on "Suspicion" of it (Just like smooth!).
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Oreo on October 16, 2015, 11:02:35 pm
I'll be honest, all I knew about longsword was that he was in MB. I assume he was a troll because of this isn't really fair since MB has plenty of none troll members. So sorry about that, rest of my statement stands.

I do apologize.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 16, 2015, 11:05:54 pm
It was certainly fun to see a lot of our enemies foaming at the mouth for a way to actually win against us.  8-)

Just remember guys you don't have to cheat to win like Jona!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: sLaughterino on October 17, 2015, 02:43:29 am
There was no reason as of that point to assume anything was wrong with strat.

All that appeared as evidence was three battles in which Acre attacked and the defending side somehow had no gear even though they knew they should have.

And considering you had just broken the raiding pact, it was easy to assume you were just scumming it.

Sorry for the false accusations, but I/we do not apologize for having thought you did it in the first place since it was a very reasonable conclusion.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 17, 2015, 03:00:50 am
There was no reason as of that point to assume anything was wrong with strat.

All that appeared as evidence was three battles in which Acre attacked and the defending side somehow had no gear even though they knew they should have.

And considering you had just broken the raiding pact, it was easy to assume you were just scumming it.

Sorry for the false accusations, but I/we do not apologize for having thought you did it in the first place since it was a very reasonable conclusion.

The banning of 3 innocent people based on assumptions is pretty ridiculous.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 17, 2015, 03:28:25 am
I think froi might be the new chosen1, only in the sense that chosen1 downvoted everything.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 17, 2015, 04:15:27 am
For anyone who is new:

Back in strat 4, Kesh was attacking Smoothrich's clan(Hero Party) at Ahmerrad. Smooth Accused Kesh of Itembombing and Multiaccounting.
Kesh got banned by Smooth.
Smooth lost Admin.
Kesh Unbanned.

Jona Pulled a Smoothrich.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 17, 2015, 04:18:48 am
For anyone who is new:

Back in strat 4, Kesh was attacking Smoothrich's clan(Hero Party) at Ahmerrad. Smooth Accused Kesh of Itembombing and Multiaccounting.
Kesh got banned by Smooth.
Smooth lost Admin.
Kesh Unbanned.

Jona Pulled a Smoothrich.

Ahmerrad did get itembombed. Kesh did have multiple accounts but one was his "girlfriends"
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Simon. on October 17, 2015, 04:28:15 am
Ahmerrad did get itembombed. Kesh did have multiple accounts but one was his "girlfriends"

that's clearly not possible, no one playing this game has a girlfriend
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Froi on October 17, 2015, 04:40:21 am
I think froi might be the new chosen1, only in the sense that chosen1 downvoted everything.
Downvote king 2k15.

Well, upvote spam on my Gaycre friends of course 8-).
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dutchydave on October 17, 2015, 04:40:47 am
Ahmerrad did get itembombed. Kesh did have multiple accounts but one was his "girlfriends"


Was that his now wife? If so that's pretty funny as that's the reason he don't play much as she hates crpg maybe all pc games.

Anyway I suggest that everyone on NA strat map stops attacking until the battle list is running back to normal. Having battles pushed forward anytime from one day to 1 week is pretty fucked up and if to many happen then it might lock the whole map up.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Uulmshar on October 17, 2015, 05:28:07 am
no one playing this game has a girlfriend
Can confirm - Been single the entire time I've been playing CRPG.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: fallinup on October 17, 2015, 05:31:10 am
Can confirm - Been single the entire time I've been playing CRPG.
can disagree.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Uulmshar on October 17, 2015, 05:32:59 am
can disagree.
What, are you my girlfriend, then?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 17, 2015, 05:33:03 am
Can confirm - Been single the entire time I've been playing CRPG.
2 days?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Uulmshar on October 17, 2015, 05:34:12 am
2 days?
well, I only started playing in September, right?
I've been single since spring.
Unless you're gonna be a smartass and say my right hand is my girlfriend.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dutchydave on October 17, 2015, 05:53:46 am
that's clearly not possible, no one playing this game has a girlfriend

Well considering my girlfriend LL_Shelly plays more then me I must disagree, she has like 9k strat ticks and I have 3k  8-)
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Schoi on October 17, 2015, 06:15:49 am
Well considering my girlfriend LL_Shelly plays more then me I must disagree, she has like 9k strat ticks and I have 3k  8-)

Pretty sure you were accused of botting multiple times and each time that happened you had to babysit the account.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 17, 2015, 06:30:49 am
Well considering my girlfriend LL_Shelly plays more then me I must disagree, she has like 9k strat ticks and I have 3k  8-)

she showed me her boobies

Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: dreadnok on October 17, 2015, 06:54:51 am
I got my man's back here. I'm not gonna call anyone a dumpster nerd yet (more recon needed), but I can't abide by someone questioning oreo's character.

He's a bretty gud guy.

Ya Hes great if you enjoy scumbag shitheads that are fuckheaded assnecks
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: MURDERTRON on October 17, 2015, 07:29:21 am
Why haven't we banned Anders for retreating an entire battle for a clan he wasn't a part of?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Drunken_sailor on October 17, 2015, 08:18:39 am
King Louie, if you agree to let me into tilimsal unmolested I will fight you in an open field battle of 253 troops vs 253 troops.(show up w/ naked army)  I will take the gear you lost from the cheat tilimsal battle and transfer exactly half rounded up to you so we have an even fight in which winner takes all.   No BS, no reinforcements, no paying opposite team's murks to leave, no ban polls, no ninja rosters, only an even match.  I'm open to ideas for finding out who initiates the attack.  In the spirit of fair play and trying not to wind up like salty ass permanent strat enemies like some of the folks on this forum I declare this challenge.
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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: cup457 on October 17, 2015, 03:14:20 pm
I didnt think acre did it because in the past when people cheated there was always proof, like when badplayer unsigned everyone or kesh item bombed every fief in existence
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 17, 2015, 03:45:59 pm
Acre was the faction that had the huge problem of putting siege equipment on their flags, for a while. Haven't seen it in a while but they're reputation is still got that stain on it, why wouldn't the current cheaters be the ones who did it in the past?

Also to Anders, that ban was back when the devs actively checked strat if something like that came up. Now if we asked for help you can expect it in a few weeks or a few months. Same with checking logs in general so unless you have definite screenshots then you have to ban on assumption or wait weeks or more to act.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: dreadnok on October 17, 2015, 05:12:38 pm
It wasn't HoC grievously abusing the rules? That is a surprise... Though not surprised schoi was involved  :lol:

I minus the posts that are completely untrue. Anyone claiming we were gearbugging is just looking for any bullshit to spew to make themselves feel better.

Jesus christ james, your on a fast track to pass me with - . Dont even bother talking to these ghoulish scumbags. Mcdeath is a huge cheating fuck. Dont even waste time with him. We play minecragt together and he pulle the same shit in the minecraft universe
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 17, 2015, 05:59:10 pm
Haha I am not worried about them Dread. I have grown to enjoy their idiocy quite a lot actually.

Joining your rank of infamy, now that is high praise  8-)

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 17, 2015, 06:48:36 pm
Jesus christ james, your on a fast track to pass me with - . Dont even bother talking to these ghoulish scumbags. Mcdeath is a huge cheating fuck. Dont even waste time with him. We play minecragt together and he pulle the same shit in the minecraft universe

Dread you are one enormous blob of retard if you thought I cheated at minecraft. I cheated at madden and I cheated with your mother
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 17, 2015, 09:13:09 pm
Also to Anders, that ban was back when the devs actively checked strat if something like that came up. Now if we asked for help you can expect it in a few weeks or a few months. Same with checking logs in general so unless you have definite screenshots then you have to ban on assumption or wait weeks or more to act.

You clearly don't remember shit about the incident I'm talking about. It's actually one hell of a fun read.
All this stuff with jona stinks of this:
http://forum.melee.org/na-%28official%29/unban-request-kesh_ats/
http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(na)-smoothrich/msg726343/#msg726343
http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(na)-smoothrich/msg725879/#msg725879

So many Lost Souls from that time we shall never see again.
Also, while re-reading it: All the people on the hate smooth wagon then are now admins or otherwise now. Interesting!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 17, 2015, 10:02:00 pm
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Here you go Anders, go on a crusade against James now.

Wonder when you'll be less toxic?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 17, 2015, 10:03:51 pm
Wonder when you'll be less toxic?

WOAH WOAH WOAH lets calm down here. Havelle is the shining pillar of our community.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 17, 2015, 10:24:46 pm
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Here you go Anders, go on a crusade against James now.

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Using goods outside cRPG* (real money, real items, stuff in other games, ...)  as trading currency for goods in cRPG is not allowed and might lead to the suspension of your account.

The cRPG Team

*cRPG meaning cRPG, Strategus and any other game or other service possibly run by this dev team in the future


Can someone investigate this and take action? This is clearly breaking the rules of the game. Just because he's an active player and a badmin doesn't make him exempt. I know for a fact other players in his clan such as Matthew have sold and bought +3's for CS:GO skins and other games on steam(he's propositioned me before asking me if i wanted to buy them as well as 99% of people who have been in acre TS). Please investigate this mods.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 17, 2015, 10:30:36 pm
Both parties were warned.

So, you are bringing this up, after someone already got their punishment? Man, lets Punish again!

Thing with Smooth was pretty blatant BS. But, you obviously don't care about previous instances and would rather play strawman arguments to deflect anything from one person to something else.

Clearly you've been watching and learning from very good Russian Propaganda.

And with that, I believe I've said enough. Thank you for proving what I said about Jona's actions with this.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 17, 2015, 10:32:53 pm
Anders you don't know shit. You act like you are bipartisan but you aren't. You just keep saying your shit and you're shit.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 17, 2015, 10:34:38 pm
Both parties were warned.
I'd be willing to bet if it was any other player but James or an Acre guy they would've been permabanned.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: mcdeath on October 17, 2015, 10:40:00 pm
I don't think you know what straw man means, not to mention I wasn't even making or participating in an argument.

This guy has obviously been hacking at strat can we please ban thread him already
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 18, 2015, 02:00:34 am
Friendly reminder that in the past people were immediately perma banned without warnings: http://forum.melee.org/global/global-ban-appeal-put-a-years-worth-of-thought-into-it/msg871758/#msg871758
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 18, 2015, 02:46:54 am
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Here you go Anders, go on a crusade against James now.

Why are you hatings on James? You're just mad you aren't the leader of a dominant strategus clan.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Schoi on October 18, 2015, 02:49:32 am
Why are you hatings on James? You're just mad you aren't the leader of a dominant strategus clan.

HCE was basically wiped out, and then they got some free fiefs because Black Bird's time of the month came. That's not very dominant
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on October 18, 2015, 05:46:34 am
You clearly don't remember shit about the incident I'm talking about. It's actually one hell of a fun read.
All this stuff with jona stinks of this:
http://forum.melee.org/na-%28official%29/unban-request-kesh_ats/
http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(na)-smoothrich/msg726343/#msg726343
http://forum.melee.org/game-admin-feedback/(na)-smoothrich/msg725879/#msg725879

So many Lost Souls from that time we shall never see again.
Also, while re-reading it: All the people on the hate smooth wagon then are now admins or otherwise now. Interesting!

Wow, what a trip. I was clearly an FCC brain-controlled puuties vassal at the time because I've got tons of upvotes on Kesh and downvotes on Smoothrich.

I feel fucking disgusted with myself.

Why are you hatings on James? You're just mad you aren't the leader of a dominant strategus clan.

Yeah? Well...you're just mad because we were confirmed as best NA beyond all shadow of a doubt in a completely and totally objective fashion without any sort of mischief in the MURRICA LEAGUE tournament, tbh

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 18, 2015, 06:26:39 am
Yeah? Well...you're just mad because we were confirmed as best NA beyond all shadow of a doubt in a completely and totally objective fashion without any sort of mischief in the MURRICA LEAGUE tournament, tbh

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 19, 2015, 02:21:38 am
Wow, what a trip. I was clearly an FCC brain-controlled puuties vassal at the time because I've got tons of upvotes on Kesh and downvotes on Smoothrich.

I feel fucking disgusted with myself.

We taught you the power of diplomacy shit-posting. You were a good student and it is natural for you to war with FCC Senpai to establish yourselves.  10/10, would ally or war with again.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 19, 2015, 07:28:03 pm

Was that his now wife? If so that's pretty funny as that's the reason he don't play much as she hates crpg maybe all pc games.

Anyway I suggest that everyone on NA strat map stops attacking until the battle list is running back to normal. Having battles pushed forward anytime from one day to 1 week is pretty fucked up and if to many happen then it might lock the whole map up.

Haha same reason I stopped playing at home.  Wife is stay at home now with our son, so not many times I'm home alone to play vidya games.  Me and Kesh should go out for a beer some time.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Donkey guy on October 19, 2015, 10:52:47 pm
Bird Clan best clan

nvr 5get

Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Schoi on October 19, 2015, 11:50:27 pm
Bird Clan best clan
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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 20, 2015, 07:16:32 am
Randomers on SWTOR still see my clan name and say 'Bird Clan best clan' or do the /flap emote at me, the legend never dies.

I logged into Jung Ma today and got bombarded by people doing that and/or cawing. XD

I also have the Tahyang server in Archeage trained to spam as well. I constantly ask their devs to buff ladders, but like the c-rpg devs they ignore this request. :(

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 20, 2015, 12:14:44 pm
I let you guys down in SWTOR, Switch and I played for about a week, but I didn't have the time to dedicate to it. I made the fattest Jedi, literally, the game would allow me to and then gave up because of no time. I'm sorry Heskeytime....

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Kidduis on October 20, 2015, 04:13:21 pm
Yeah, you either sub or you need a lot of time to get immersed. I'm hoping that the 12x story exp bonus becomes the new benchmark and eventually becomes available for F2P

In preparation for the new expansion, I went and found *every* single datacron in the game (apart from the fleet one cos fuck that shit) to get the tiny permanent stat boosts they give you. It was quite an experience on an open PvP server, lots of waiting and difficult platforming alongside members of the opposite faction. Maybe it was because I was a massively higher level... or maybe there is honour amongst completionists... but never once did a fellow datacron hunter show any malicious intent towards me. I even grappled some to safety or as a shortcut to a hard-to-reach datacron.

On what server do you play Hesky?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: traxits on October 20, 2015, 06:54:36 pm
started reading page 1, was just qq about u cheat no u cheat no u suck more, shit like that.

skip to the last page because who the fuck has time to read 17 pages of u cheat no u cheat u bitch

...and they're talking about star wars and archeage???

fuck this place is confusing sometimes.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 20, 2015, 09:02:07 pm
Jung Ma, cos when Switch and I began we were playing with Bird Clan in NA.

Population isn't very high (cos PvP, PvE has more pop), but the ping is absolutely fine in a game like this.

I'm back to playing. :D Btw, that stronghold is sweet as hell. Many people partying, gambling machines and beautiful potted plants.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dynamics on October 20, 2015, 10:43:10 pm
JFUCKITTINGFUCKITTINGFUCK!

EARLY ACCESS!?!?!?!??!?!

:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

Cos i'm sub i get to play Knights of the Fallen Empire from today!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa (or tomorrow cos it'll take forever to download)
is that the 3rd faction from the trailer?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Dynamics_BRD on October 21, 2015, 06:07:50 am
How bad does the game limit f2p players?
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bryggan on October 21, 2015, 10:08:14 pm
started reading page 1, was just qq about u cheat no u cheat no u suck more, shit like that.

skip to the last page because who the fuck has time to read 17 pages of u cheat no u cheat u bitch

...and they're talking about star wars and archeage???

fuck this place is confusing sometimes.

And the funniest thing is... TRISTAN GOT A WARNING FOR BEING OFF TOPIC!  HHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAA!
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 21, 2015, 10:47:12 pm
And the funniest thing is... TRISTAN GOT A WARNING FOR BEING OFF TOPIC!  HHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAA!

We're doing our community a service by derailing this shit thread.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 21, 2015, 10:53:45 pm
And the funniest thing is... TRISTAN GOT A WARNING FOR BEING OFF TOPIC!  HHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAA!

devs confirmed for hating me, McDeath, and Tazer
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Taser on October 21, 2015, 10:59:38 pm
devs confirmed for hating me, McDeath, and Tazer

Couldn't handle the dank memes.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Donkey guy on October 21, 2015, 11:20:27 pm
McDeathfgt
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: njames89 on October 22, 2015, 12:40:34 am
This entire thread as well as my sentiment about strategus being broken.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 22, 2015, 03:03:28 am
The new HK droid is awesome, the shit he says when you try and talk to him...

''Anecdote: This reminds me of another time you stopped to talk to me.''

Or when you talk to him on the ship,

''Demand: ARE WE THERE YET!?''

Ah, quirky rpg companions... yessir

So he's just a copy of the HK droid from kotor, basically? While that's all well and good, it'd be nice to see them try and come up with original stuff instead of trying to keep this failed mmo afloat by throwing in as many kotor references/easter eggs/plot devices as they can. The new update seemed cool, but as you said it gives off a very kotor kind of vibe. So that's good that they are returning to what works, but at the same time they should just keep things separate. Let kotor be kotor (and make an actual 3rd one ffs) and leave this mmo to rot.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 22, 2015, 05:08:25 am
So he's just a copy of the HK droid from kotor, basically? While that's all well and good, it'd be nice to see them try and come up with original stuff instead of trying to keep this failed mmo afloat by throwing in as many kotor references/easter eggs/plot devices as they can. The new update seemed cool, but as you said it gives off a very kotor kind of vibe. So that's good that they are returning to what works, but at the same time they should just keep things separate. Let kotor be kotor (and make an actual 3rd one ffs) and leave this mmo to rot.

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I hope this mmo does well so it provides me more content to enjoy. Your argument sounds like you barely even scratched the game and you don't sound like you know what you're talking about it, it is alright to not like a game but at least make a credible argument. The only negative things I have to say about swtor is that it doesn't have multi-server pvp and I binge through the content to quickly, so I have to wait for expansions.

Imperial Agent story-line is one of the finest stories written since kotor 1.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Jona on October 22, 2015, 06:16:25 am
It's not an argument, it's an opinion. Everyone has their own. I don't care for the structure of MMOs, so to me swtor was a fail compared to good ole kotor.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: ArysOakheart on October 22, 2015, 08:19:21 am
It's not an argument, it's an opinion.

You suck.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 22, 2015, 08:36:24 am
It's not an argument, it's an opinion. Everyone has their own. I don't care for the structure of MMOs, so to me swtor was a fail compared to good ole kotor.

When two (or more) people differ with their opinions and then discuss them it becomes an argument.

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on October 22, 2015, 09:24:35 am
Is there a way to mark this topic so it doesn't keep sending me notifications that people commented on it
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 22, 2015, 12:02:11 pm
Is there a way to mark this topic so it doesn't keep sending me notifications that people commented on it

What the actual fuck? You get notifications that people post in this thread....it's time to step away from the keyboard m8. There is no forum topic or shitposter so important that you need to be notified when it updates....

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Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: traxits on October 23, 2015, 01:34:08 am
What the actual fuck? You get notifications that people post in this thread....it's time to step away from the keyboard m8. There is no forum topic or shitposter so important that you need to be notified when it updates....

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this confirms it. he's kesh.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Captain_Skinboat on October 23, 2015, 07:36:02 pm

this confirms it. he's kesh.

says kesh...
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 23, 2015, 08:12:37 pm
says kesh...

Bro, everyone knows that's Taxtros
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Kirbyy on October 23, 2015, 09:30:00 pm
how the fuck do people know taxtros, I thought he was a nobody in Malta
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Zeus_ on October 23, 2015, 09:36:31 pm
how the fuck do people know taxtros, I thought he was a nobody in Malta

Malta was bad (i should know, i was in it)

Edit: I appreciate that Bronto
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Bronto on October 23, 2015, 10:10:39 pm
Malta was is still bad (i should know, i was kirbyy is in it)

FTFY
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Kirbyy on October 24, 2015, 02:01:17 am
Malta is shit and so are the members in it.

[edit] Zeus you weren't even in Malta, and if you were I don't remember because you're a nobody
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Zeus_ on October 24, 2015, 02:07:23 am
I was under a different name, and plus, i know Taxtros irl
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Kirbyy on October 24, 2015, 02:25:14 am
I was under a different name, and plus, i know Taxtros irl

Im sorry who are you though
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: traxits on October 24, 2015, 02:34:30 am
I fucking hate everyone in this community why do I still play this game all you cumglobs do is piss me off.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Sparvico on October 24, 2015, 03:02:32 am
I fucking hate everyone in this community why do I still play this game all you cumglobs do is piss me off.

Sorry Kesh, we'll try and do better next time senpai.
Title: Re: This is not fair
Post by: Voncrow on October 24, 2015, 04:03:59 pm
I fucking hate everyone in this community why do I still play this game all you cumglobs do is piss me off.

Kesh is such a tsundere