you're not making any sense, how are we supposed to afk on strat if we do things on the map?
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We're American.
Starting wars because ofpetty differencesfinancial interests and resources is what we do best.
Crime doesn't really hurt if you have no armies in fiefs though does it? It doesn't seem to kill off population?No, but with armies outside fief, the upkeep is a bitch.
Army upkeep in fief is cheaper? Well well, the things I learn.
It's a bad idea to convert troops into population. The population goes up for free (too the limit). It's better to keep your troops on hand! = more troops to mobilize on thy field of battle. ;)
true, but if you know you want to keep that castle/fief, instead of holding 1000 troops in there all the time you can just convert those to pop too, and no more upkeep
There really needs to be a system in Strategus that rewards factions who participate in sieges/battles/raids. Wasn't the whole 'renown' thing supposed to do this?
What's going on my fellow North Americans. KBW you own a lot of the map too, get your ass in gear and make strat fun. Occitan, start something too. Dracul fight Ganner. WFA oh wait, you are vassels of Acre! So yeah. Everyone has more then enough gold to have a little bit of a war. Let's make it happen shall we?
there has been a war against civil liberties in regards to altered states of consciousness going on in the USA for going on 50 years, join the fight.
Totally has nothing to do with, I don't know drugs being highly destructive (often lethal) addictive substances. Meth, Heroin, and Cocaine are definitely illegal because "there is a war against civil liberties in regards to altered states of consciousness". Just go fast or smoke pot (legal in a lot of places now or not police enforced) or better yet meditate (instead of looking for quick destructive fix to get to same state) if thats what you want.
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you must be on drugs for that much typing
You're right, it has nothing to do with Strategus, but it's still a war taking place in North America, haha. If meth, heroin, and cocaine were outlawed due purely to harm reduction (considering the study published in 2010 in The Lancet, Drug harms in the UK: a multicriteria decision analysis, for one), then alcohol and tobacco would be illegal too. Clearly that's not the case. If we're considering potential harm to self and others, the top five substances, almost always in this order, are: alcohol, heroin, crack form of cocaine, methamphetamine, cocaine (then tobacco). Heroin/meth/crack/coke are more likely to cause harm to the user than alcohol, but alcohol is pretty close and is much more likely to cause harm to others due to the use of it. Even considering that the aforementioned study is affected by the case of alcohol and tobaccos legality, one must admit that it is likely more of a danger or at least an equal danger to cannabis, and some schedule I substances are safer than either.
Still, even making the more heinous of substances illegal causes more harm than good by way of making criminals out of citizens rather than educating them and allowing them to make their own informed choices as we have done with alcohol and tobacco. A lack of regulation by making substances criminal also paves the way for untaxed money to be made by distributors who may adulterate their products, causing further chances for harm to users, who are going to use whether or not said substances are illegal- legality doesn't effect the percentage of users in a population in a major way in the long run, from what we've seen in countries and areas that have decrminalized substances previously illegal. For the record, I've never done meth, heroin, cocaine, and I never would due to their addictive qualities and potential detriments to health- this is also why I typically refrain from alcohol. I can and do agree that these substances, at least, have a high chance for destruction and harm.
In terms of potential harm to self and other, some of the highest scheduled drugs in America, the psychedelic substances such as psilocybin (found in many species of mushrooms) and LSD are ironically some of the safest for consumption- low chance for physical damage, low chance for overdose, low chance for lasting negative effects, extremely low chance for addiction, do some research and see for yourself. They were outlawed under the Nixon administration due to "cultural hysteria" and propaganda against them. Moreover, this was intimately tied to social activism- many activists were using these substances, and could not be imprisoned for their activism. Maybe I'm just cynical. It's a joke that they're Schedule I (No benefits; no medical applications- there was not enough information to claim this at the time of their scheduling, but can now be said to be an outright lie as around the world more and more applications and potential applications are being discovered and explored).
What's more, unlike alcohol prohibition, no amendment was made to the constitution in their case. Pretty ridiculous, man, you've got to admit, that a person can go to prison for a longer sentence than a murderer or rapist for possessing an amount of mushrooms not even suitable for a psychedelic experience. You can get five years in prison for having a gram (there are some places, thankfully, where they'll just fine you and confiscate it- this also depends on the officer, of course), which, on average, will only have the effect of improving visual acuity. That is utterly fucked up. Whether or not you would ever deign to use these substances, you have to admit that there is a level of absurdity in the system we have arranged here. Imagine if you could be sent to prison for years for the possession of a thimble full of ginger (in relation to sub-psychedelic amounts of substances this is an easy comparison).
Some people prefer meditation to reach visionary states, and for some, with practice, they achieve it- others prefer to ingest a fungus readily metabolized by our bodies to reach visionary states, and, with forty minutes of waiting, they achieve it. Moreover, the practice of meditation is, in my own experience (the last of which was over five years ago, now) as well as the experience of others who have actually experimented with these substances in a respectful manner, only enhanced by the introduction of compounds such as mescaline, psilocybin, LSD and salvinorin a. If I, as an informed adult citizen of the United States of America, do not have the right to alter my consciousness as I see fit- knowing well the risks and benefits, as anyone who consumes alcohol or, hell, drives a vehicle does- then the game isn't worth the candle, and it opens the door for a further violations of our collective civil liberties.
Sorry for the wall of text, but I am extremely passionate about this, and feel that a large portion of the population is either uninformed or misinformed when it comes to mind altering substances. At the very least we need to seriously consider decriminalization, because the only people who truly benefit from illegal substances by virtue of their being illegal (important to note) are prison operators, law enforcement (in terms of federal funding- Minnesota police fought tooth and nail to keep medical marijuana illegal here in plant form just recently), and dealers/crime syndicates/cartels.
Sorry, started trying to read, but it really did become tl:dr and start was very very dry with a heavy bias. Sorry.
Sorry, started trying to read, but it really did become tl:dr and start was very very dry with a heavy bias. Sorry.
He took time to write all of that; if you aren't going to put time into reading it and replying in a similar fashion then just don't even reply. There is really no point. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with him. People don't agree with most stuff you post on these forums but they (some people) still give your posts the time it takes to read them. Even if your posts have an even heavier bias than Mala's post.
Plus, how hard is it actually read 6 paragraphs? It's like a page in a book.
Sorry, I don't enjoy random, hundreds of words long OP ED political pieces with a biased slant in a video game forum. Its same reason I ignore popular news on tv or pundits. I don't know why they feel its necessary to try and get people to think like them when it comes to politics or religion, as if it somehow validates their opinion and self-identity if they can brainwash others to think like them, but I have no taste for being a part of it.
Several hundred words from his perspective on a giant topic like drugs is destined to be biased simply by its very short nature of what gets included. I know if the roles were reversed you would still back him, so I don't really put much weight on your opinion in the matter.
Sorry, I don't enjoy random, hundreds of words long OP ED political pieces with a biased slant in a video game forum. Its same reason I ignore popular news on tv or pundits. I don't know why they feel its necessary to try and get people to think like them when it comes to politics or religion, as if it somehow validates their opinion and self-identity if they can brainwash others to think like them, but I have no taste for being a part of it.
Several hundred words from his perspective on a giant topic like drugs is destined to be biased simply by its very short nature of what gets included. I know if the roles were reversed you would still back him, so I don't really put much weight on your opinion in the matter.
lol
Hundred of words? HUNDREDS? Holy fucking shit, he wrote more than two sentences on something so he's clearly very biased!
Why would you even reply, then? Good lord, you're an insufferable piece of shit on the internet. Still, I applaud you for making your first post in months that didn't include at least several spelling, syntax, or seemingly dyslexic-inspired errors that make it seem like you're pounding away at your keyboard like an infuriated chimp. I really didn't think you had it in you, m8.
lol UMADBRO
Legs - the last girl I dated her first boyfriend died of a heroin overdose. I know others who have utterly destroyed their lives in their addiction to it. People who literally snorted their entire life savings with cocaine because they just can't stop using.
Hearing some spoiled college-educated kid (malaclypse, not you legs) recite statistics for why drugs are good and should be legal, is a lot like hearing some teetotaler get in front of an AA meeting and tell them how bad alcohol is for them and how easy it is not to drink. So yeah biased.
this is a really good and right post lol.
actually amazed someone in cRPG has a non awful opinion on something for once.
And in recent news, minimum wage went up to $15 in Seattle...
'Let's not get people out of the projects... let's get the projects to the people!'
You so BAD at using forums. Triple posting eslewhere. Holy balls, are you like a 12yo add kid with downsyndrome!
You so BAD at using forums. Triple posting eslewhere. Holy balls, are you like a 12yo add kid with downsyndrome!
Ahem. Minimum Wage is a bad thing in MOST cases. It's only good because it tends to increase worker pay, but(!!!) it will make the price of EVERYTHING increase proportionally to bad amounts.
Or as Balikar stated: Lets get the projects to the people.
Course I doubt most people on this forum would even remotely care about economics. Gotta had daddy take care of them for them by giving them everything on tax dollars and not having to think about anything. Honestly, most people get arrested for possession of the tame drugs that are under battle to be legalized atm. Why does a person who steals get less time than a guy who possessed marijuana? Justice system is as corrupt as everything else. This is the sad thing about Bureaucracy: Corruption.
You so BAD at using forums. Triple posting eslewhere. Holy balls, are you like a 12yo add kid with downsyndrome!
Ahem. Minimum Wage is a bad thing in MOST cases. It's only good because it tends to increase worker pay, but(!!!) it will make the price of EVERYTHING increase proportionally to bad amounts.
Or as Balikar stated: Lets get the projects to the people.
Course I doubt most people on this forum would even remotely care about economics. Gotta had daddy take care of them for them by giving them everything on tax dollars and not having to think about anything. Honestly, most people get arrested for possession of the tame drugs that are under battle to be legalized atm. Why does a person who steals get less time than a guy who possessed marijuana? Justice system is as corrupt as everything else. This is the sad thing about Bureaucracy: Corruption.
imisshotmail, was it really necessary to bring up a personal photo of Anders. I feel bad for you that you had to resort to that to "troll" or get your jollies on the interwebs.
Hearing some spoiled college-educated kid (malaclypse, not you legs) recite statistics for why drugs are good and should be legal, is a lot like hearing some teetotaler get in front of an AA meeting and tell them how bad alcohol is for them and how easy it is not to drink. So yeah biased.
I don't know why they feel its necessary to try and get people to think like them when it comes to politics or religion, as if it somehow validates their opinion and self-identity if they can brainwash others to think like them, but I have no taste for being a part of it.
Heroin is dangerous- nobody is saying that it's not, but it doesn't take a genius to consider for a second the notion that it's more dangerous outlawed than not. When it's outlawed, you have to deal with: the danger of the drug itself- you don't know HOW pure it is, you don't know if it's been adulterated; the exposure to a criminal network; the threat of jail time; the lack of a support base for helping you with your addiction (because it is criminalized). If it were legalized and available we could get rid of a larger amount of those threats while simultaneously better informing the public about its dangers instead of focusing on just-say-no fear mongering which at this point is glaringly ineffective in curtailing use. Do you see how peoples lives have been destroyed by these drugs under prohibition- a system where they get no help to combat their problems? No hope for outreach because of fear of being locked up? If you don't die from abuse and are "lucky" enough to get caught you spend years in prison and then are stigmatized as a criminal when you go back to society. Putting citizens in prison is a shitty stop-gap of a "solution". The above goes for coke as in case of the unfortunate person who Bob spoke of.
I'm trying to get you and others to reconsider their position as to their legality, to give ME the freedom to do so (because my freedom to fuck who I want, use what substances I want, these never ought to have been anyone's fucking business but my own), because people's lives are at stake.
I wouldn't have to try to convince people if other people hadn't change the rules fifty years ago because they wanted to start a War on Some Drugs to make a profit
drugs are bad now stop dumbposting
So, do we have to start assigning wars? I can equip a battle ready army in 2 or 3 trade runs, and take great pleasure in kicking ass... or getting my ass kicked. I think we need to remind people that the idea of the game is not to win, but to slaughter, kill, destroy, and shed blood.
So, do we have to start assigning wars?
MB vs. Occitan, Acre vs. Wardens, Squids vs. Vagabonds and black company and GForce leftovers, everybody else gets into a big dumb free for all.I like that! and Displaced Knights and Second Sons (DiKaSS for short) fights everyone (though keep free trade agreements).
The problem here is that everyone knows each other. We all go on each other's teamspeaks, get to know one another as individuals, and decide who are friends and enemies are by personality.shut up nerd
It would be nice if everyone made their decisions by the Strat map; attacking fiefs because of strategic or economic value, not because the owner shitposted them or TKed them twice in C-Rpg, and allied themselves with people not because they're cool, or they're dating their sister*, but because it will give you a temporary advantage which you might use against them later.
So I suggest everyone should be forced to change their game names so no one will know who's who (and revealing your identity would result in $200** fine and perma ban), people may only go on their clan's TS and no one else's, and all diplomacy must be done through letters written in a proper RP style (each one to be submitted to the fine people who got rid of the 'Hello Kitty' banner for approval before being sent).
Plus any clan that does not play in a proper Machiavellian style will be fined $100 per member.
This would lead to proper game play and perhaps a little less bitching.
*Yeah, I know. True Strat players don't date.
** Canadian dollars. Sent to me.
Wow, this is just more heavily biased then the others. First, completely ignore methodone clinics (have had friends where this helped) and other treatments (most convictions for heroin and other life-threatening drugs are accompanied by requirements to stay off the drug during parole/probation with various programs to help keep them off the drug and vast avst majority of first time offenders with a small amount of substance (users, not sellers) plea bargain down to probation).
Your "legalizing" making it more safe is just ludicrous - it would expose a far greater number of people and at a younger age with easier accessibility and price to a highly addictive dangerous substance that kills thousands every year. As easy as getting prescription medication except heroin and meth don't cure anything, just causes long-term damage and death. It would be like saying its okay to allow everyone to buy/sell contaminated meat because at least its regulated contaminated meat so less dangerous than black market contaminated meat (though the people dying from salmonella and other poisonings die regardless of which kind they would get might disagree with you)
So people's lives are at stake as to your reasoning for legalizing heroin. The freedom to use what you want. By that reasoning Anthrax should be legalized and mustard gas and meth labs, never mind that they severely affect the health and threaten the lives of many other people - as long as you get the freedom to kill yourself how you like.
(Really??, lol and I guess Kennedy was killed by the CIA and we never actually landed on the moon too, right?.
P.S. Makes sense, Bronto(click to show/hide)
shut up nerdI will not shut up! I strongly believe that any strongly enforced rules that help me micro-manage everyone and makes me a lot of money is worth it.
I will not shut up! I strongly believe that any strongly enforced rules that help me micro-manage everyone and makes me a lot of money is worth it.
And I'm not a nerd. I test experimental military aircraft during the day and play saxophone in a New Orleans blues joint at night, and I date a different supermodel every week.
MB vs. Occitan, Acre vs. Wardens, Squids vs. Vagabonds and black company and GForce leftovers, everybody else gets into a big dumb free for all.
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